Re: [DNG] Failure installing eclipse on jessie

2017-12-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:30:40AM -0600, lpb+dev...@kandl.houston.tx.us wrote: > Daniel, thanks. In the mean time, I have downloaded the package directly > from the URL you gave below, and applied with dpkg -i. I hope the > amprolla3 server becomes fixed as you describe below. > > Hi, just to

Re: [DNG] Failure installing eclipse on jessie

2017-12-04 Thread lpb+devuan
I can confirm this now works by successfully doing the following: % sudo dpkg --purge libcommons-pool-java % sudo apt-get update % sudo apt-get install libcommons-pool-java Thanks, L On 12/04/2017 01:00 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 10:30:40AM -0600,

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
k...@aspodata.se writes: If you know any specific packages which breaks the "separate /usr" idea, please report. Libraries in these libdiscover2 libffi6 libgmp10 libgnutls-deb0-28 libgnutls-openssl27 libgssapi-krb5-2 libhogweed2 libk5crypto3 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libnettle4 libp11-kit0

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 03:30, Steve Litt wrote: > > Are a lot of you using NFS? Do you feel safe doing so? > Yes it happens in trusted networks. I don't see any additional security threat in this case. I also use it in some multiple virtual machines setup to minimize

[DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 23:12:59 +0800 Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > Hello, > > I am unable to mount empty /usr on jessie. Is there any workaround or > should I keep some files there? > Or is there any build for libgssapi-krb5-2 to keep its files in /lib? > > ~# ldd

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Steve Litt writes: It appears you're using NFS. Back in my youth, the wise men told me that NFS was a horrible security threat unless you also used YP, which was too sophisticated for me to ever figure out. That's a long time ago and the world has changed. Back then, the big problem was that

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread karl
Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: ... > I only worrying that I cannot make it work without having certain libs in > /usr/lib. I believe that linking against them /sbin files is not good idea > and wondering if there are any steps in Devuan to avoid /usr/lib > dependencies for files that are stored in /sbin

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread karl
Steve Litt: > On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 23:12:59 +0800 > Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: ... > > ~# ldd /sbin/mount.nfs|grep usr > > It appears you're using NFS. > > Back in my youth, the wise men told me that NFS was a horrible security > threat unless you also used YP, which was too

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Simon Hobson
Steve Litt wrote: > Back in my youth, the wise men told me that NFS was a horrible security > threat unless you also used YP, which was too sophisticated for me to > ever figure out. So these days I use sshfs, which is nice, but slower > than a turtle dragging a

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 04:17, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > k...@aspodata.se writes: > >> If you know any specific packages which breaks the "separate /usr" idea, >> please report. >> > > Libraries in these > > libgssapi-krb5-2 > libk5crypto3 > libkrb5-3 > libkrb5support0 >

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 04/12/2017 à 20:30, Steve Litt a écrit : Back in my youth, the wise men told me that NFS was a horrible security threat unless you also used YP, which was too sophisticated for me to ever figure out. So these days I use sshfs, which is nice, but slower than a turtle dragging a railroad

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 04/12/2017 à 17:11, J. Fahrner a écrit : Hi, Am 2017-12-04 16:12, schrieb Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: I am unable to mount empty /usr on jessie. Is there any workaround or should I keep some files there? Or is there any build for libgssapi-krb5-2 to keep its files in /lib? ~# ldd

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 04/12/2017 à 18:13, J. Fahrner a écrit : Am 2017-12-04 17:54, schrieb Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: "no_root_squash  Turn off root squashing. This option is mainly useful for diskless clients." NFS was never meant to be a filesystem for diskless workstations, so you cannnot expect to behave

[DNG] eudev or vdev?

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello, could someone enlighten me about differences in eudev and vdev packages? I don't know which one to choose :) -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se): > Sun's Yellow Pages is called NIS since a long time ago. And NIS is lately spelled 'LDAP'. ;-> NFSv4 is better and less gratuitously firewall-hostile than versions in days of yore. I still would carefully avoid exposing any NFS (what we

[DNG] Just so you know,

2017-12-04 Thread zap
I am unsubscribing, from dng, mostly because I no longer use devuan, I am now using hyperbola another operating system that uses debian packages for stability and security. It's a stable arch. I am using it right now. It also avoids systemd if anyone is interested. But this will be my last

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): > I heard that YP aka NIS was a horrible security threat. NFS is > certainly not very secure either. But nobody considers establishing > the NFS connection across the world-wide Internet; it is always on a > LAN and, given this, I don't see how it can be

Re: [DNG] ascii an waiting for dhcp on boot

2017-12-04 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Hi! On 2017-11-29 08:37, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Hi! > > Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017 schrieb Didier Kryn: > > Le 29/11/2017 à 08:38, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : > > > Hi! > > > > > > When bootin ascii and eth0 is present and configured as dhcp and eth0 is > > > not connected to a

Re: [DNG] NFS: was mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 14:21, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): > > > the NFS connection across the world-wide Internet; it is always on a > > LAN and, given this, I don't see how it can be insecure. >

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-04 17:54, schrieb Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: "no_root_squash Turn off root squashing. This option is mainly useful for diskless clients." NFS was never meant to be a filesystem for diskless workstations, so you cannnot expect to behave like one. Diskless workstations have also memory

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 01:13, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2017-12-04 17:54, schrieb Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: > > "no_root_squash Turn off root squashing. This option is mainly useful for >> diskless clients." >> > > NFS was never meant to be a filesystem for diskless workstations, so

Re: [DNG] Failure installing eclipse on jessie

2017-12-04 Thread Linux O'Beardly
I am currently using the following mirrors on Devuan Jessie: deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main contrib non-free deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates main contrib non-free deb

Re: [DNG] Failure installing eclipse on jessie

2017-12-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 07:54:23PM -0600, lpb+dev...@kandl.houston.tx.us wrote: > On jessie, I'm having trouble the eclipse package, because I am getting > a 404 on a java package. Here's the error I get: > > Err tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged/ jessie/main > libcommons-pool-java all

Re: [DNG] Failure installing eclipse on jessie

2017-12-04 Thread lpb+devuan
On 12/04/2017 05:29 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 07:54:23PM -0600, lpb+dev...@kandl.houston.tx.us > wrote: >> On jessie, I'm having trouble the eclipse package, because I am getting >> a 404 on a java package. Here's the error I get: >> >> Err

[DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello, I am unable to mount empty /usr on jessie. Is there any workaround or should I keep some files there? Or is there any build for libgssapi-krb5-2 to keep its files in /lib? ~# ldd /sbin/mount.nfs|grep usr libgssapi_krb5.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2

Re: [DNG] Failure installing eclipse on jessie

2017-12-04 Thread Daniel Abrecht
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 The package is at: http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/c/commons-pool/libcommons-pool-java_1.6-2_all.deb Or: http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/c/commons-pool/libcommons-pool-java_1.6-2_all.deb Or:

Re: [DNG] Failure installing eclipse on jessie

2017-12-04 Thread lpb+devuan
Daniel, thanks. In the mean time, I have downloaded the package directly from the URL you gave below, and applied with dpkg -i. I hope the amprolla3 server becomes fixed as you describe below. On 12/04/2017 09:52 AM, Daniel Abrecht wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > >

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2017-12-04 17:21, schrieb Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky: Yes I need it for virtual machines so they won't store the same data. NFS is not the right protocol for such things. NFS is a *network* storage filesystem and behaves not like a local filesystem. Through NFS user root gets mapped to nobody

Re: [DNG] mounting /usr

2017-12-04 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
On 5 December 2017 at 00:43, J. Fahrner wrote: > Yes I need it for virtual machines so they won't store the same data. > > NFS is not the right protocol for such things. NFS is a *network* storage > filesystem and behaves not like a local filesystem. Through NFS user root >