Rick Moen [2018-07-10 10:30]:
> Was there something that lead you to believe it had become illegal to
> use unmaintained code? Otherwise, I find the basis of your question
> quite difficult to understand.
Don't be ridiculous. I just think it would be better to maintain the old
commands instead
All the more reason for devuan to push forward. Thank you to the devs!
On July 10, 2018 5:59:13 AM CDT, "J. Fahrner" wrote:
::Nice to read (experience of a german computer scientist)
::
::English:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 14:08:48 +0200
Harald Arnesen wrote:
> Rick Moen [2018-07-10 10:30]:
>
> > Was there something that lead you to believe it had become illegal
> > to use unmaintained code? Otherwise, I find the basis of your
> > question quite difficult to understand.
>
> Don't be
Nice to read (experience of a german computer scientist)
English:
https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de=en=y=_t=de=UTF-8=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.danisch.de%2Fblog%2F2018%2F07%2F10%2Fsystemd-war-eine-massive-fehlentscheidung%2F==url
Deutsch:
Il giorno Tue, 10 Jul 2018 09:32:07 +0300
Lars Noodén ha scritto:
> On 07/09/2018 11:23 PM, Harald Arnesen wrote:
>> Rick Moen [2018-07-09 21:01]:
>>
>>> 'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;->
>>>
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 06:41:10AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> Being a "veteran" has never been a sufficient excuse from the
> obligation to support your claims with actual facts. This is not a
> religion, and there has never been anything like a revealed gospel in
> the free software
Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 14:37]:
> The problem is that it is probably easier to start anew rather than
> trying to update/maintain an existing project. You have to contact the
> existing maintainer (and you could have problems actually finding the
> maintainer), get their permission to update
On 10.07.18 09:32, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > Why, oh why replace well-known, portable commands with Linux-only
> > commands that are no better?
>
> Looking at the comparison table in that link, not only are the new
> utilities and order of magnitude more complex they also fail to deliver
> many of
Quoting Harald Arnesen (skog...@gmail.com):
> So if my main machine runs *BSD, I will have to use a totally different
> set of commands on my Linux laptop?
No, you can continue to use a set of utilities on your Linux laptop that
have been unmaintained code for 17 years and cannot handle
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 01:30:41AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Harald Arnesen (skog...@gmail.com):
>
> > So if my main machine runs *BSD, I will have to use a totally different
> > set of commands on my Linux laptop?
>
> No, you can continue to use a set of utilities on your Linux laptop
On 07/09/2018 11:23 PM, Harald Arnesen wrote:
> Rick Moen [2018-07-09 21:01]:
>
>> 'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;->
>> https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/
>
> Why, oh why replace well-known, portable commands
Rick Moen [2018-07-10 00:31]:
> Quoting Harald Arnesen (skog...@gmail.com):
>
>> Why, oh why replace well-known, portable commands with Linux-only
>> commands that are no better?
>
> At your convenience look up how many years the net-tools codebase has
> been orphaned. Can't remember, but it's
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Hi,
recently I started logging and blocking EUI-64 addresses out of my
network. For long time now I have privacy extension enabled on all
interfaces.
But what I seen is that unbound seems to not care about privacy
extension and uses always the
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 15:36:46 +0200
Harald Arnesen wrote:
> Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 14:37]:
>
> > The problem is that it is probably easier to start anew rather than
> > trying to update/maintain an existing project. You have to contact
> > the existing maintainer (and you could have problems
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 17:46:46 +1000
Erik Christiansen wrote:
> Ego drives young men to reinvent the wheel, then declaim "mine is
> grand, and I deprecate (piss on) the old."
Hi Erik,
I think the preceding is a generalization accurate only anecdotally,
and is the opposite of and as bad as
On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 13:13:00 -0400
Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> On 2018-06-25 08:03 AM, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have an old desktop at home running Devuan ascii for some basic
> > server/file storage functions. Unfortunately the disk sounds like
> > it's almost dead so I took a
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 09:34:35 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> So the only inequivocally remaining received gospel is that Emacs is the
> Only True and Holy Editor.
Heretic ! True Believers worship at the Shrine of VI...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
La marine est un art, une science, et un
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 09:34:35 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> So the only inequivocally remaining received gospel is that Emacs is
> the Only True and Holy Editor.
For the person not yet acquainted with Vim.
/* Litt ducks and runs */
Steve Litt
Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence
Rowland Penny wrote:
> The problem is that it is probably easier to start anew rather than
> trying to update/maintain an existing project. You have to contact
> the existing maintainer (and you could have problems actually
> finding the maintainer), get their permission to update the package
>
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> Again, links before opinions:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/net-tools/code/ci/master/tree/
>
> net-tools might be obsolete for many functions, but it's still
> developed, and is surely not "unmaintained" since 17 years ago.
Argue with Jon Corbet,
I've still not got things working.
# iwconfig shows my USB network dongle to have the value: wlx2824ff1a1794
So in /etc/network/interfaces I have:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
allow hotplug eth0
iface inet eth0 dhcp
auto wlx2824ff1a1794
iface wlx2824ff1a1794 inet dhcp
* Also worth noting this quote at the bottom of TFA:
"Oh, Christ. It was obviously a joke, no government agency has ever asked me
for a backdoor in Linux," Torvalds told Mashable via email.
* Apologies for top posting with crappy mobile app
On July 9, 2018 11:41:10 PM CDT, KatolaZ wrote:
::
Joel Roth wrote on 10.07.2018 19:55:
> Hi maintainers
>
> I notice that dosemu is available through debian (all
> releases), but the packages are not in the devuan repo,
> at least for the ascii release.
>
> May be worth looking into
>
Hi Joel,
dosemu version
On 2018-07-10 11:41 AM, John Franklin wrote:
On Jun 25, 2018, at 6:14 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
I have to say your current computer is more than powerful enough for
your current uses and I would advise saving your money instead, perhaps
instead just buy a SSD for the primary drive and some
Irrwahn wrote:
> Joel Roth wrote on 10.07.2018 19:55:
> > Hi maintainers
> >
> > I notice that dosemu is available through debian (all
> > releases), but the packages are not in the devuan repo,
> > at least for the ascii release.
> >
> > May be worth looking into
> Hi Joel,
>
> dosemu
> On Jun 25, 2018, at 6:14 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
>
> I have to say your current computer is more than powerful enough for
> your current uses and I would advise saving your money instead, perhaps
> instead just buy a SSD for the primary drive and some storage disks for
> storage.
> Your
Hi maintainers
I notice that dosemu is available through debian (all
releases), but the packages are not in the devuan repo,
at least for the ascii release.
May be worth looking into
cheers,
--
Joel Roth
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Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> Yeah, I knew the link, and it correctly says that net-tools has not
> seen a new release since 2011 (which is 7 years, not 17 :P).
>
> And thanks a lot for the link. This is the way a discussion should go
> :)
Yr. very welcome! On the arithmetic error,
Hi
Just wondering if anyone is using virtualbox, and whether it brings in and
systemd stuff?
Ozi
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On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 09:41:11AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
>
> > Again, links before opinions:
> >
> > https://sourceforge.net/p/net-tools/code/ci/master/tree/
> >
> > net-tools might be obsolete for many functions, but it's still
> > developed, and
Joel Roth wrote on 10.07.2018 20:50:
> Irrwahn wrote:
>> Joel Roth wrote on 10.07.2018 19:55:
>>> Hi maintainers
>>>
>>> I notice that dosemu is available through debian (all
>>> releases), but the packages are not in the devuan repo,
>>> at least for the ascii release.
>>>
>>> May be worth
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 10:35:39PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> Joel Roth wrote on 10.07.2018 20:50:
> > Irrwahn wrote:
> >> Joel Roth wrote on 10.07.2018 19:55:
> >>> Hi maintainers
> >>>
> >>> I notice that dosemu is available through debian (all
> >>> releases), but the packages are not in the
Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 15:44]:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 15:36:46 +0200
> Harald Arnesen wrote:
>
>> Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 14:37]:
>>
>> > The problem is that it is probably easier to start anew rather than
>> > trying to update/maintain an existing project. You have to contact
>> > the
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 02:34:52PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> allow hotplug eth0
I believe that should be allow-hotplug but since I'm still running
jessie, it's possible this has changed in Ascii.
> iface inet eth0 dhcp
>
> auto wlx2824ff1a1794
You might want to replace that auto
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