Hi,
Steve Litt writes:
> What could possibly be easier than vim /var/log/messages, or
> vi /var/log/messages, or emacs /var/log/messages, or
> nano /var/log/messages? And notice with the old way, you have a choice,
> rather than having to look at log output with the vendor's proprietary
> tool.
Personally, if I want to look at a file without editing it, if it's
small, I'll use view - which gives me the vi interface with the file in
read-only mode. It means I get the same interface and facilities that I
use when actually editing files, and it's easy to remember and (usually)
automatic. If
The trouble is that it's not just an OS for geeks - it's the OS on which
the vast majority of the internet runs.
If the sysadmins who maintain the servers which form the infrastructure
and backbone of the internet were to get de-skilled, that would be a
very big problem. (Although, I should say
> > What could possibly be easier than vim /var/log/messages, or
> > vi /var/log/messages, or emacs /var/log/messages, or
> > nano /var/log/messages? And notice with the old way, you have a choice,
> > rather than having to look at log output with the vendor's proprietary
> > tool.
>
> Maybe I'm
> On 26 Nov 2021, at 20:40, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
>
> # On my own machines `lv` makes a fine `pager` for me. On the fly
> # decompression and handling of many different encodings. So for me,
> # it's just
> #
> # pager /var/log/syslog.2.gz
> #
> # without any `zmore` or `zcat`
It's a bit like the charlatans and fake doctors in past centuries.
They'd invent an illness, and then claim to have a remedy for it:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/marthambles
On Thu, 2021-11-25 at 09:55 -0800, Syeed Ali wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:35:13 -0500
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > I
On 24/11/2021 10:08, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
Hi Hendrik,
Hendrik Boom writes:
I'm setting up a new backup script that will do it all piecemeal so
that if a part of it fails, it can be retried without having to start
*everythng* over from scratch.
Which top-level filesystems should
On 11/25/21 17:11, Steve Litt wrote:
[snip]
Imagine if they made a car with the engine compartment welded shut, and
gave you a little cockpit in the passenger compartment to control a
robot inside the engine compartment that would do maintenance and
repairs.
That's not too far off from new
Just in case anyone is interested, I have had good success at installing
Devuan 4.0 on to second hand Sophos firewall hardware (XG115 and XG125,
Rev 3) to make light-weight firewalls and network appliances.
You have to use a terminal program on the console port at 38400 to get
access to the
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:24:26 +
Mike Tubby wrote:
> Just in case anyone is interested, I have had good success at installing
> Devuan 4.0 on to second hand Sophos firewall hardware (XG115 and XG125,
> Rev 3) to make light-weight firewalls and network appliances.
Hi,
I have it running on a
Le 26/11/2021 à 12:05, Peter Duffy a écrit :
> The trouble is that it's not just an OS for geeks - it's the OS on which
> the vast majority of the internet runs.
>
> If the sysadmins who maintain the servers which form the infrastructure
> and backbone of the internet were to get de-skilled, that
On 26-11-2021 17:27, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
On 2021-11-26 05:08, Peter Duffy wrote:
It's a bit like the charlatans and fake doctors in past centuries.
They'd invent an illness, and then claim to have a remedy for it:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/marthambles
LOL! Isn't that exactly
On Thu, 2021-11-25 at 18:11 +, Simon wrote:
> In the early days of motoring, you had a lot to learn and cars were
> non-trivial to drive and to keep going - to the extent that many users
> employed someone to do the driving for them. Roll forward through the
> years, and cars have got more
On 2021-11-26 05:08, Peter Duffy wrote:
It's a bit like the charlatans and fake doctors in past centuries.
They'd invent an illness, and then claim to have a remedy for it:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/marthambles
LOL! Isn't that exactly what big pharma is still doing with direct
Steve Litt wrote:
>>> I've wondered for a long time if it would be independently possible
>>> to make systemd optional.
>>
>> I think you found that the answer is no.
>
> I think you might be pleasantly surprised. In, to use the term loosely,
> "discussions" with systemd's biggest fanboy
On 11/26/21 1:57 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
On 26-11-2021 17:27, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
On 2021-11-26 05:08, Peter Duffy wrote:
It's a bit like the charlatans and fake doctors in past centuries.
They'd invent an illness, and then claim to have a remedy for it:
Anno domini 2021 Fri, 26 Nov 15:33:11 -0500
Ken Dibble scripsit:
> On 11/26/21 1:57 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
> > On 26-11-2021 17:27, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> >> On 2021-11-26 05:08, Peter Duffy wrote:
> >>> It's a bit like the charlatans and fake doctors in past centuries.
> >>> They'd invent
On 26-11-2021 21:53, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote:
Anno domini 2021 Fri, 26 Nov 15:33:11 -0500
Ken Dibble scripsit:
On 11/26/21 1:57 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
On 26-11-2021 17:27, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
On 2021-11-26 05:08, Peter Duffy wrote:
It's a bit like the charlatans and fake
Mike Tubby said on Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:07:36 +
>
>... but if you run a nameserver you may well need:
>
> /var/cache/bind
>
>as that's where your zonefiles are ;-)
Thanks for reminding me again one of the reasons I don't use bind. Who
in their right mind would put zone files in a cache
Or, tell bind to place the zone files where they originally were, in
/etc/bind/zones or something.
The change was made about 10 years ago as a "security feature" and is
mainly used for running bind in a jail, so if it gets hacked, they can't
mess up the rest of the server. I remember when Debian
Hi,
wirelessduck--- via Dng writes:
>> On 26 Nov 2021, at 20:40, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
>>
>> # On my own machines `lv` makes a fine `pager` for me. On the fly
>> # decompression and handling of many different encodings. So for me,
>> # it's just
>> #
>> # pager /var/log/syslog.2.gz
Peter Duffy said on Fri, 26 Nov 2021 11:08:27 +
>It's a bit like the charlatans and fake doctors in past centuries.
>They'd invent an illness, and then claim to have a remedy for it:
>
>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/marthambles
Or, more recently, http://bentcarrot.com.
It's bent? Oh, the
Olaf Meeuwissen said on Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:40:37 +0900
>Hi,
>
>Steve Litt writes:
>
>> What could possibly be easier than vim /var/log/messages, or
>> vi /var/log/messages, or emacs /var/log/messages, or
>> nano /var/log/messages? And notice with the old way, you have a
>> choice, rather than
On 11/26/21 3:59 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
On 26-11-2021 21:53, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote:
Anno domini 2021 Fri, 26 Nov 15:33:11 -0500
Ken Dibble scripsit:
On 11/26/21 1:57 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
On 26-11-2021 17:27, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
On 2021-11-26 05:08, Peter Duffy wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 20:29:07 -0600
Rod Rodolico wrote:
> For a really nice Linux based router distro, look at IPFire
> (https://www.ipfire.org/). They suffer from being too small, so they
> don't have a lot of people testing, so updates sometimes have issues.
> But, it is very secure, and has
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