Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

> On January 25, 2016 at 5:54 PM Rainer Weikusat > wrote: [...] > A related but IMHO more interesting set of questions could be: > > 1. Should every trivial crap $someone ever implemented since 1978 end up >in general purpose library just because $someone

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater (was: "Common knowledge?"-question)

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:23:01PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > KatolaZ writes: > > [...] > > > I still don't see the need for an internal buffer to print out a > > formatted string, to be honest :) > > Everything in code can always be implemented in a number of

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 01:47:46PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 25/01/2016 13:23, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : > > while (*r) if (*r++ == '/') n = r; > > Does it mean > > while (*r) > { > if (*r == '/') > { >n = r; >r++; > } >

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Le 25/01/2016 13:23, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : while (*r) if (*r++ == '/') n = r; Does it mean while (*r) { if (*r == '/') { n = r; r++; } } or while (*r) { if (*r == '/') { r++;

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Le 25/01/2016 13:47, Didier Kryn a écrit : while (*r) { if (*r == '/') { r++; n = r; } } It's not even that. A for loop would do it: for ( ; *r; r++ ) n = r+1; ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Didier Kryn: > Le 25/01/2016 13:23, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : > > while (*r) if (*r++ == '/') n = r; > > Does it mean > > while (*r) >{ > if (*r == '/') > { > n = r; > r++; > } >} > > or > > while (*r) >

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Didier Kryn writes: > Le 25/01/2016 13:23, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : >> while (*r) if (*r++ == '/') n = r; > > Does it mean > > while (*r) > { > if (*r == '/') > { >n = r; >r++; > } > } > > or > > while (*r)

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

Am Montag, 25. Januar 2016 schrieb Rainer Weikusat: > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" writes: > > [...] > > > What about making the source smaller and not the executable? > > > > static void print_start(char const *name, char const *what) { > > if (name[0])

Re: [DNG] Lightweight media/video player

dev1fanboy wrote: >One of the better ones for the purpose of keeping pulse and dbus out is xine >(xine-ui). It is ugly, wants over nine thousooond packages to be installed, including samba-libs... >A good music player is cmus which uses ncurses and has playlist support, does >not use any

[DNG] Evolution of a Unix minimalist

Removes GNOME3 Removes systemd Removes Xfce Removes 9wm Removes X Removes their package manager Removes make, because "I can cc everything by myself" Removes C++ programmes Removes C programmes "Why do I need Assembly when there is machine code"

Re: [DNG] Ad filtering and blocking

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:47 PM, Go Linux wrote: > > On Sun, 1/24/16, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] Ad filtering and blocking > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016, 5:34 PM

[DNG] systemd-free.org

re all, here a new initiative by brothers and sisters of ArchLinux, one of the first distributions to be bullied into systemd http://systemd-free.org ArchLinux is a relatively young and very sharp distribution, they have arguably the best documentation wiki on-line on GNU/Linux matters and many

Re: [DNG] Ad filtering and blocking

Personally I had hoped that law would mean sites are discouraged from using cookies unless they are absolutely necessary, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I think sites are choosing to continue finding ways to annoy their users rather than just not using cookies where it's not necessary.

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Le 25/01/2016 16:08, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : Didier Kryn writes: Le 25/01/2016 13:23, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : while (*r) if (*r++ == '/') n = r; Does it mean while (*r) { if (*r == '/') { n = r; r++;

Re: [DNG] Ad filtering and blocking

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 23:47:14 + (UTC) Go Linux wrote: > Or maybe because xul is going the way of the dodo? > > http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=7=2979611 Does anybody here know how the Seamonkey project is going to deal with Mozilla's disposal of XUL?

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Didier Kryn writes: [...] >> A multi-line version could look like this: >> >> while (c = *r) { >> ++r; >> if (c == '/') n = r; >> } >> > > It might be done with a for loop. eg: > > for ( ; *r ; ++r) if(*r=='/') n=r; > n++; [...] > The for loop is the best

Re: [DNG] systemd-free.org

Although I'm no fan of rolling release distros, it's good to know there is some effort to preserve other inits there. On Monday, January 25, 2016 3:47 PM, Jaromil wrote: > re all, > > here a new initiative by brothers and sisters of ArchLinux, one of the > first distributions

[DNG] Lightweight media/video player

Hi, As I recently have been playing with window managers, mostly FVWM, i3 and now it's Openbox, to latter I switched from Xfce because I have decided not to go with D-Bus, I am now in need to find a lightweight media or, precisely, video player. In Xfce I had been using Parole, because it's

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:29:06 +0100, Wim wrote in message

Re: [DNG] Lightweight media/video player

One of the better ones for the purpose of keeping pulse and dbus out is xine (xine-ui). As far as a media player.. I think it's best to have one thing for music and another for video. A good music player is cmus which uses ncurses and has playlist support, does not use any crappy extra libs, no

Re: [DNG] Lightweight media/video player

Also forgot to mention cdcd can play music direct from a cd. One tool one job and all that, I also noted there are some more audio video/players around but some of them are targetted to a specific purpose, like smpeg-gtv for playing mpegs. On Monday, January 25, 2016 6:04 PM, Mitt Green

Re: [DNG] Evolution of a Unix minimalist

2016-01-25 21:21 GMT+01:00, Mitt Green : > Removes GNOME3 > > Removes systemd > > Removes Xfce > Removes 9wm > > Removes X > > Removes their package manager > Removes make, because "I can cc everything by myself" > > Removes C++ programmes > Removes C programmes > > "Why do I

Re: [DNG] Evolution of a Unix minimalist

Mitt Green writes: > Removes GNOME3 > > Removes systemd > > Removes Xfce > Removes 9wm > > Removes X > > Removes their package manager > Removes make, because "I can cc everything by myself" > > Removes C++ programmes > Removes C programmes > > "Why do I need Assembly when

Re: [DNG] Evolution of a Unix minimalist

Reverse the order and change remove for installs and you have the evolution of linux into windows ;-) On Monday, January 25, 2016 8:21 PM, Mitt Green wrote: > Removes GNOME3 > > Removes systemd > > Removes Xfce > Removes 9wm > > Removes X > > Removes their package

Re: [DNG] Evolution of a Unix minimalist

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:06:45 + Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Now, what to all of these have in common beyond "you got almost all of > the chronology wrong"? Definitely the "Head or tails", gentlemen ;) Quote from: Asimov, Isaac - The Machine That Won The War,

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Peter Olson writes: >> On January 25, 2016 at 7:40 AM KatolaZ wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:23:01PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: [...] >> > static char const *get_name(char const *arg0) >> > { >> > char const *n, *r; >> > >> > n = r =

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Le 25/01/2016 23:44, Peter Olson a écrit : This also brings up the question of whether you should roll your own get_name or use basename(3) which already does the same thing except in some edge cases. It's easier for the student to understand the code if it is implemented as get_name, but the

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Le 25/01/2016 19:11, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : Didier Kryn writes: [...] A multi-line version could look like this: while (c = *r) { ++r; if (c == '/') n = r; } It might be done with a for loop. eg: for ( ; *r ; ++r) if(*r=='/') n=r; n++;

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Rainer Weikusat writes: > Didier Kryn writes: > > [...] > >>> A multi-line version could look like this: >>> >>> while (c = *r) { >>> ++r; >>> if (c == '/') n = r; >>> } >>> >> >> It might be done with a for loop. eg: >> >> for

Re: [DNG] Readable code; making code more easily writable; Emacs, multifiles-apmod; VUE; Code Bubbles; Lisp; Inform 7; HyperCard and HyperTalk - was Re: "Common knowledge?"-question

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Rainer Weikusat < rainerweiku...@virginmedia.com> wrote: > Apollia writes: > > [...] > > > I think if I ever did code much in C, my code would end up looking very > > unusual and unconventional to many people, because I often like to use > >

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater (was: "Common knowledge?"-question)

> On January 25, 2016 at 7:40 AM KatolaZ wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:23:01PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > KatolaZ writes: > > > > [...] [...] > > The program also contains a very nice example of why the post-increment > >

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

Le 24/01/2016 19:14, KatolaZ a écrit : Soo, the above is nearly the same as > > char buf[total]; > p = buf; > >Why then use alloca()? > Maybe because char buf[total]; works only in ANSI C11. I still don't see the need for an internal buffer to print out a formatted string, to be

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:27:15AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: [cut] > > The following works in plain old C: > > #include > #include > static void print_start(char const *name, char const *what) > { > unsigned name_len, what_len, total; > > name_len = strlen(name); >

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

Le 25/01/2016 11:34, KatolaZ a écrit : I would say that having embedded subprograms in a function is not the best thing one can do in C Every block is a subprogram. The block in a do loop, the conditional block in an if or while statement. The subprogram blocks are everywhere in C;

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

Am Montag, 25. Januar 2016 schrieb KatolaZ: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:27:15AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > The following works in plain old C: > > > > #include > > #include > > static void print_start(char const *name, char const *what) > > { > > unsigned

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:18:09PM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: [cut] > > What about making the source smaller and not the executable? > > static void print_start(char const *name, char const *what) { > if (name[0]) fprintf("%c%s",name[0]&~0x20, name+1); > fprintf(stderr, " %s:

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

Didier Kryn writes: > Le 24/01/2016 19:14, KatolaZ a écrit : >>> Soo, the above is nearly the same as >>> > >>> > char buf[total]; >>> > p = buf; >>> > >>> >Why then use alloca()? >>> > >> Maybe because >> char buf[total]; >> >> works only in ANSI C11. I still don't see

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

"Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" writes: [...] > What about making the source smaller and not the executable? > > static void print_start(char const *name, char const *what) { > if (name[0]) fprintf("%c%s",name[0]&~0x20, name+1); > fprintf(stderr, " %s: ",what); > } Are you

[DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater (was: "Common knowledge?"-question)

KatolaZ writes: [...] > I still don't see the need for an internal buffer to print out a > formatted string, to be honest :) Everything in code can always be implemented in a number of different ways, hence, whatever the code ends up doing is "not really needed" --- it

Re: [DNG] Lightweight media/video player

I started using mpv as media player instead vlc. vlc has become unstable often producing segmentation fault, skipping frames. The package names is mpv. It has tiny package size less than 1.5 MB. $ mpv --version mpv 0.8.3 (C) 2000-2015 mpv/MPlayer/mplayer2 projects built on Tue Mar 17