Re: [DNG] Mailinglist (was Re: leveldb support proposal)

2016-02-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 06:17:49PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 03:28:59PM -0600, Don Wright wrote: > > > > Until more specialized forums are available for discussion of specific > > aspects of Devuan, *this* is the place and *now* is the time for civil > > discussion of

Re: [DNG] Mailinglist (was Re: leveldb support proposal)

2016-02-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 03:28:59PM -0600, Don Wright wrote: > > Until more specialized forums are available for discussion of specific > aspects of Devuan, *this* is the place and *now* is the time for civil > discussion of any and all matters of direction and policy. And the most important part

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:41:22PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > I think, window manager user configuration more or less rests on these tasks: > a) configure some menu structure to access user programs > b) configure a keyboard structure to access user programs > c) configure wallpaper and

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-29 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, Like, I assume many, on this mailing list, know what to do when they opt not to install the default window manager or desktop. However, I think, XFCE is a good choice, although on my T4400 2GB computer it tends to be rather heavy. Window managers are attractive with respect to low resource

Re: [DNG] Mailinglist (was Re: leveldb support proposal)

2016-02-29 Thread Don Wright
T. J. Duchene wrote: >With respect to all parties, I don't see why any particular stance on >the list is going to make any material difference in Devuan at the >present moment. Devuan is in Alpha 4, and the decisions for this >version have been made. I think it is best to table these kinds

Re: [DNG] vdev packaging effort ( was: state of what's, working for modern desktop usage)

2016-02-29 Thread aitor_czr
On 02/29/16 20:30, shraptor wrote: But when I get to slim-login manager I get no keyboard. This happened to me trying to build a Devuan_Rpi2.img (Raspberry Pi 2) : exim4 works, but the keyboard is not detected and i can't access to the prompt. I tried with a couple of

Re: [DNG] vdev packaging effort ( was: state of what's working for modern desktop usage)

2016-02-29 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Didier Kryn writes: [...] > A few releases ago, intoducing a new init script in /etc/init.d, > and the corresponding links in rc?.d has become a little more > complicated, because the comments at the head of the script now > consitute a meta-language describing the

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-29 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 2/29/16, T.J. Duchene wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future To: "dng" Date: Monday, February 29, 2016, 2:30 PM > > I don't know if Devuan has inherited the 4.10 packaged in Debian, but I > would heartily recommend 4.12,

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-29 Thread T.J. Duchene
On 2016-02-29 17:12, Stephanie Daugherty wrote: > Just to clarify about "default" desktop environment and what that actually > means. > > The "default" desktop environment is the one that gets squeezed onto the > first CD/DVD of a set of installation media, as well as the one that's > installed

[DNG] Mailinglist (was Re: leveldb support proposal)

2016-02-29 Thread T. J. Duchene
With respect to all parties, I don't see why any particular stance on the list is going to make any material difference in Devuan at the present moment. Devuan is in Alpha 4, and the decisions for this version have been made. I think it is best to table these kinds of debates for the next

Re: [DNG] vdev packaging effort ( was: state of what's working for modern desktop usage)

2016-02-29 Thread Mitt Green
Scooby wrote: >However me who never ever ran debian and are somewhat unfamiliar with >init here ran into problem getting vdev to run at start up? There is actually a couple of documents available‎, the first is README [1] and the second is How to Test vdev [2]. >I tried putting it into

Re: [DNG] vdev packaging effort ( was: state of what's working for modern desktop usage)

2016-02-29 Thread shraptor
Due to real(boring?) work I've had not much time to put in on this. I did get devuan-jessie-amd64-alpha4-netboot.iso installed in a VirtualBox VM. This went without problems. Jude had already done some basic package-building that is present on git. However me who never ever ran debian

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-29 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - From: Stephanie Daugherty To: hellekin ; dng@lists.dyne.org Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future Just to clarify about "default" desktop environment and what that actually means. The "default" desktop

[DNG] Fw: Re: leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Go Linux
For the record. --- On Mon, 2/29/16, Go Linux wrote: > From: Go Linux > Subject: Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal > To: "Rainer Weikusat" > Date: Monday, February 29, 2016, 10:51 AM > > Congrats!  You have made it to my

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-29 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
Just to clarify about "default" desktop environment and what that actually means. The "default" desktop environment is the one that gets squeezed onto the first CD/DVD of a set of installation media, as well as the one that's installed if you just click "desktop environment" in tasksel without

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Rainer Weikusat writes: > Go Linux writes: [...] >>> why would I care to impress you >>> with anything . . . ? >>> >> >> And therein is the crux of your attitude. > > You conjectures about "my attitude" happen to be wrong. I was planning to

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Ivan J.
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, aitor_czr wrote: >On 02/25/16 20:12, Rainer Weikusat [1] >wrote: > > "Ivan J." [2] writes: > > > Is there interest in Devuan supporting multiple versions of leveldb? > > Why I am wondering is because of Bitcoin

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread aitor_czr
On 02/25/16 20:12, Rainer Weikusat wrote: "Ivan J." writes: >Is there interest in Devuan supporting multiple versions of leveldb? >Why I am wondering is because of Bitcoin and its code. Currently Bitcoin >statically links db-4.8 and it is

Re: [DNG] [DE] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 03:03:19PM +, hellekin wrote: > On 02/28/2016 07:38 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > I suggest we use this mailing list for communication, and label each > > post with the word DE in capital letters on the subject line. > > Thus they'll end up arriving as [DNG] DE ...

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 03:03:19PM +, hellekin wrote: > On 02/28/2016 07:38 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > I suggest we use this mailing list for communication, and label each > > post with the word DE in capital letters on the subject line. > > Thus they'll end up arriving as [DNG] DE ...

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Go Linux writes: > > On Mon, 2/29/16, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Monday, February 29, 2016, 10:01 AM > > Go Linux

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 2/29/16, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, February 29, 2016, 10:01 AM Go Linux writes: >

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Go Linux writes: > > On Mon, 2/29/16, Jaromil wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Monday, February 29, 2016, 7:37 AM >> >> I am not the only one to perceive

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-29 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 2/29/16, hellekin wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, February 29, 2016, 9:03 AM > > Anyway a month or two from now, Discourse will be ready to surpass > Mailman as a mailing list manager, thanks to a

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Rainer Weikusat
"Ivan J." writes: [...] > You aren't really contributing with any of your emails, if you can not > help the Devuan developers on a technical level regarding my subject, > please refrain from further mailing on this list. What you are doing is > just derailing, nothing

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 2/29/16, Jaromil wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, February 29, 2016, 7:37 AM > > I am not the only one to perceive Rainer's contributions as rather > questionable

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Ivan J.
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Jaromil writes: > > > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, poitr pogo wrote: > > > >> On 2/25/16, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >> (...) > >> > >> > Considering that shared objects and dynamic linking were > >> >

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-29 Thread hellekin
On 02/28/2016 07:38 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I suggest we use this mailing list for communication, and label each > post with the word DE in capital letters on the subject line. > Thus they'll end up arriving as [DNG] DE ... > We can do that, or use Mailman topics: so if you put [DE] in

Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

2016-02-29 Thread Rob Owens
I use hotkeys extensively in Fluxbox. Fluxbox allows you to set each hotkey individually, so you could have Ctrl-Alt-a perform one action and Control-Shift-a perform another. I would like the configuration to allow variables and multiple hotkeys. This should be a valid configuration:

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Jaromil writes: > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, poitr pogo wrote: > >> On 2/25/16, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> (...) >> >> > Considering that shared objects and dynamic linking were >> > originally a MULTICS feature (dating back to about 1965) and >> >

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, poitr pogo wrote: > On 2/25/16, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > (...) > > > Considering that shared objects and dynamic linking were > > originally a MULTICS feature (dating back to about 1965) and > > introduced to UNIX(*) with SunOS 4.0 in 1988,

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Tomasz Torcz writes: > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 07:10:28AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 12:14:25 +0100 >> Didier Kryn wrote: >> >> > I think it is different for Systemd supporters: >> > >> > - shut up, we know better than you >>

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 07:10:28AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 12:14:25 +0100 > Didier Kryn wrote: > > > I think it is different for Systemd supporters: > > > > - shut up, we know better than you > > - you have no choice but do as we tell you >

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread Rainer Weikusat
poitr pogo writes: > On 2/25/16, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > (...) >> Considering that shared objects and dynamic linking were originally a >> MULTICS feature (dating back to about 1965) and introduced to UNIX(*) >> with SunOS 4.0 in 1988, the

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

2016-02-29 Thread poitr pogo
On 2/25/16, Rainer Weikusat wrote: (...) > Considering that shared objects and dynamic linking were originally a > MULTICS feature (dating back to about 1965) and introduced to UNIX(*) > with SunOS 4.0 in 1988, the best course of action to deal with people > who