Re: [DNG] Different philosophies

2017-11-09 Thread Nate Bargmann
Well stated, Steve. I've been using Fetchmail for almost 19 years. Rock solid reliability, day after day, several times per hour. I've also used Procmail for an equal length of time and it is now claimed to be "unmaintained". Oh well, it works for me to sort my mail into Maildir "mailboxes" for

[DNG] [SOLVED] Planned manintainance on dev1galaxy.org -- Thu. 9th Nov. 2017

2017-11-09 Thread KatolaZ
Dear Dev1rs, just to let you know that the maintainance on dev1galaxy.org is now complete (Thu. 9th Nov 2017 22:08). The server is up and running again. Thanks for your patience. The Dev1Devs -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at]

Re: [DNG] AMD: Was Problem with xorg on 6th gen Intel cpus

2017-11-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 9 Nov 2017 09:58:24 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > After Rick's posted Minix on Intel article, I'm going to stick with > > AMD even if it's more expensive, slower and hotter (and I'm not > > saying any of those things

[DNG] Different philosophies

2017-11-09 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I ran across this in the Dia mailing list: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/dia-list/2017-November/msg6.html Unfortunately, everyone top posted, so time sequence goes bottom to top. But it's pretty clear what happened. One guy sees no email, questions or announcements, and pronounces

Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-09 Thread leloft
On Thu, 9 Nov 2017 17:07:35 + KatolaZ wrote: > not too unusual to have to issue an "apt-get -f install" during a > dist-upgrade, depending on how much up-to-date your distro was and on > how many releases had passed since you did your first fresh install last fresh

Re: [DNG] AMD: Was Problem with xorg on 6th gen Intel cpus

2017-11-09 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > After Rick's posted Minix on Intel article, I'm going to stick with AMD > even if it's more expensive, slower and hotter (and I'm not saying any > of those things are true). I'm honestly not sure that AMD CPUs are a substantial improvement in

[DNG] AMD: Was Problem with xorg on 6th gen Intel cpus

2017-11-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 9 Nov 2017 16:41:11 + jack da wrote: > When my 6th-gen intel > boxes start to die and be replaced by amd/arm [losing faith in > intel], I may give devuan another try. After Rick's posted Minix on Intel article, I'm going to stick with AMD even if it's more

Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-09 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 04:54:17PM +, leloft wrote: > On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 19:11:13 + > KatolaZ wrote: > > > If you are on Devuan Jessie you can just simply *upgrade* to Devuan > > Ascii. There is no need to start from another distribution. Just > > replace "jessie"

Re: [DNG] Problem with xorg on 6th gen Intel cpus

2017-11-09 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 04:41:11PM +, jack da wrote: > hello Joel, > > thanks for your reply. I have moved on to Salix, which, unlike its > Slackware parent, has apt-like dependency resolution and is as [un]reliable > as any of the non-systemd distros that I have evaluated/used on my

Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-09 Thread leloft
On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 19:11:13 + KatolaZ wrote: > If you are on Devuan Jessie you can just simply *upgrade* to Devuan > Ascii. There is no need to start from another distribution. Just > replace "jessie" with "ascii" in your sources.list, and then > > apt-get update &&

[DNG] Problem with xorg on 6th gen Intel cpus

2017-11-09 Thread jack da
hello Joel, thanks for your reply. I have moved on to Salix, which, unlike its Slackware parent, has apt-like dependency resolution and is as [un]reliable as any of the non-systemd distros that I have evaluated/used on my travels. Suffice to say that I have tried different devuan-based distros,

Re: [DNG] Planned manintainance on dev1galaxy.org -- Thu. 9th Nov. 2017 -- 21:00 (UTC) - 23:00 (UTC)

2017-11-09 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 12:12:35AM +, KatolaZ wrote: > Dear Dev1rs, > > this email is to announce that the Devuan web forum on dev1galaxy.org > will be unreachable due to planned manintainance in the following time > slot: > > Thu. 9th Nov. 2017 -- 21:00 (UTC) - 23:00 (UTC) >

Re: [DNG] / on lvm2 volume (was Re: WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable)

2017-11-09 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org): > I don't know how long this has been available but had I been aware of > it, I would have used it way back when I used to mount /usr read-only. > That's been a while ... maybe 10 years or so ;-) > > Actually, staring at this, I may have done

Re: [DNG] Virtualbox?

2017-11-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Following up on my own post. Olaf Meeuwissen writes: > Hi, > > Gregory Nowak writes: > >> On Mon, Nov 06, 2017 at 05:44:17PM -0500, zap wrote: > > # Actually, none of the quoted stuff was written by zap ;-) > >>> > I do have one question though, what ascii/stretch package name(s) should >>>

Re: [DNG] [SOLVED] Re: Our servers are unreachable (Current outage at OVH)

2017-11-09 Thread John Hughes
On 09/11/17 13:08, KatolaZ wrote: just to let you know that the outage at OVH has been resolved, and all our services are now back online. None of the machines was actually rebooted, so it seems it was just a network issue on the OVH site. Lucky you.  Mine is still in some kind of routing maze

[DNG] [SOLVED] Re: Our servers are unreachable (Current outage at OVH)

2017-11-09 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 09:01:23AM +, KatolaZ wrote: > Dear Dev1rs, > > just to let you know that due to an OVH outage most of our services > are currently unreachable. We will post updates here in due course. > Dear Dev1rs, just to let you know that the outage at OVH has been resolved,

Re: [DNG] / on lvm2 volume (was Re: WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable)

2017-11-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Rick, Rick Moen writes: > Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org): > >> I used to mount /usr read-only on my server machines but that quickly >> becomes a bore when you need to install security upgrades every so >> often. > > Suggestion: Make remounting an automatic part of

[DNG] Our servers are unreachable (Current outage at OVH)

2017-11-09 Thread KatolaZ
Dear Dev1rs, just to let you know that due to an OVH outage most of our services are currently unreachable. We will post updates here in due course. HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at]