Re: [DNG] I found a new reason to dislike debian...

2017-11-20 Thread John Hughes
On 21/11/17 00:09, zap wrote: it is "very strange" and also "really stupid" that they waited this long... People scratch the itches *they* have.  That's how free software works, and even now, they still don't have it included in stretch... its really infuriating... but yeah... initiall

Re: [DNG] I found a new reason to dislike debian...

2017-11-20 Thread zap
On 11/20/2017 08:53 AM, John Hughes wrote: > On 20/11/17 14:08, zap wrote: >> >> On 11/20/2017 04:08 AM, John Hughes wrote: >>> Firmware is required, which can be provided by installing the firmware-atheros package. Open firmware

Re: [DNG] Error when updating from jessie to ascii 32bit

2017-11-20 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 03:34:46PM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > when I execute the following it returns me: > > root@(none):~# gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-keyring.gpg --export > 94532124541922FB | apt-key add > gpg: ATENCIÓN: no se ha exportado nada > gpg: no se han encont

Re: [DNG] Error when updating from jessie to ascii 32bit

2017-11-20 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 03:34:46PM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > when I execute the following it returns me: > > root@(none):~# gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-keyring.gpg --export > 94532124541922FB | apt-key add > gpg: ATENCIÓN: no se ha exportado nada > gpg: no se han encont

Re: [DNG] Error when updating from jessie to ascii 32bit

2017-11-20 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
when I execute the following it returns me: root@(none):~# gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-keyring.gpg --export 94532124541922FB | apt-key add gpg: ATENCIÓN: no se ha exportado nada gpg: no se han encontrados datos OpenPGP válidos root@(none):~# Thanks -- Ismael Devuan User : http://di

Re: [DNG] Error when updating from jessie to ascii 32bit

2017-11-20 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 06:43:36PM +, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] > > > > > > I still have to solve: > > NO_PUBKEY 94532124541922FB > > > > Which mirror are you using? If it's anything different from > auto.mirror.devuan.org then you should: > Wait, that is the fingerprint of the origin

Re: [DNG] Error when updating from jessie to ascii 32bit

2017-11-20 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 01:15:14PM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > Error: > error: no table of symbols. > Loading Linux 4.9.0-4-686-pae ... > Loading initial memory image ... > > Press any key to continue... > > Solved with: > grub-install /dev/sda > update-grub > reboot > > > I stil

Re: [DNG] Error when updating from jessie to ascii 32bit

2017-11-20 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
Error: error: no table of symbols. Loading Linux 4.9.0-4-686-pae ... Loading initial memory image ... Press any key to continue... Solved with: grub-install /dev/sda update-grub reboot I still have to solve: NO_PUBKEY 94532124541922FB Best Regards -- Ismael Devuan User : http://distro

[DNG] Error when updating from jessie to ascii 32bit

2017-11-20 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
I just updated from jessie to ascii and it gives me 2 errors: How could I solve these errors? First: [GNUPG:] ERROR add_keyblock_resource 33554433 [GNUPG:] NEWSIG [GNUPG:] ERROR keydb_search 33554445 [GNUPG:] ERRSIG 94532124541922FB 1 8 00 1511158266 9 [GNUPG:] NO_PUBKEY 94532124541922FB gpgv: unk

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-20 Thread m712
On November 16, 2017 12:13:31 AM GMT+03:00, Adam Borowski wrote: >On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:56:31PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: >> Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): >> >> > Because of lack of Unicode, those terminals couldn't do it right. >But >> > that's no more: here's a kernel patc

Re: [DNG] I found a new reason to dislike debian...

2017-11-20 Thread John Hughes
On 20/11/17 14:08, zap wrote: On 11/20/2017 04:08 AM, John Hughes wrote: Firmware is required, which can be provided by installing the firmware-atheros package. Open firmware for this driver is

Re: [DNG] I found a new reason to dislike debian...

2017-11-20 Thread zap
On 11/20/2017 08:08 AM, Patrick Meade wrote: > On 11/19/2017 10:01 PM, zap wrote: >> there are dongle usbs whose firmware has been made free software, and I >> cannot use this firmware from devuan, because some arrogant debian devs >> were too lazy to remove the non-free package and add the free

Re: [DNG] I found a new reason to dislike debian...

2017-11-20 Thread zap
On 11/20/2017 04:08 AM, John Hughes wrote: > On 20/11/17 05:01, zap wrote: >> there are dongle usbs whose firmware has been made free software, and I >> cannot use this firmware from devuan, because some arrogant debian devs >> were too lazy to remove the non-free package and add the free package

Re: [DNG] I found a new reason to dislike debian...

2017-11-20 Thread Patrick Meade
On 11/19/2017 10:01 PM, zap wrote: there are dongle usbs whose firmware has been made free software, and I cannot use this firmware from devuan, because some arrogant debian devs were too lazy to remove the non-free package and add the free package. so annoying. Will you provide a link to this

Re: [DNG] I found a new reason to dislike debian...

2017-11-20 Thread zap
> I might have misunderstood you, but I don't think that adding support > for non-free firmware is among the Devuan's top priorities... You did misunderstand me, debian will not add it, even though IT IS free firmware. thinkpenguin sells one without the non-free firmware. > > My2Cents > > KatolaZ

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-20 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Montag 20 November 2017 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 08:32:07PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:52:13 +0100, Didier wrote in message > > > > : > > > Le 19/11/2017 à 15:10, Jaromil a écrit : > > > > hi all > > > > > > > > Can anyone clarify how /etc/rc.loc

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-20 Thread Jaromil
dear Olaf, On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Crying wolf like this time and again is not doing Devuan any good. No, I am the wolf. > FWIW, I just modified the /etc/rc.local on two of my Devuan ASCII > machines to fix up ownership on an ext4 mount and that worked just > fine. But t

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-20 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Olaf Meeuwissen writes: Crying wolf like this time and again is not doing Devuan any good. Amen. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Jaromil writes: > On 19 November 2017 21:14:26 CET, Didier Kryn wrote: > >>Conclusion: initscripts profides the infrastructure to invoke >>/etc/rc.local if it exists, but it doesn't provide an empty >>/etc/rc.local. > > Ok, this is what I hoped and it still makes sense. > > IMHO deprecation

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-20 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:01:17 +0100 John Hughes wrote: > On 19/11/17 15:10, Jaromil wrote: > > Following up after the conversation on redis, when we had the > > elected Debian leader chiming in here to defend his position and > > keep deleting init.d scripts, I still believe this is again "even >

Re: [DNG] I found a new reason to dislike debian...

2017-11-20 Thread John Hughes
On 20/11/17 05:01, zap wrote: there are dongle usbs whose firmware has been made free software, and I cannot use this firmware from devuan, because some arrogant debian devs were too lazy to remove the non-free package and add the free package. so annoying. Firmware is required, which can be pr

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-20 Thread John Hughes
On 19/11/17 15:10, Jaromil wrote: Following up after the conversation on redis, when we had the elected Debian leader chiming in here to defend his position and keep deleting init.d scripts, I still believe this is again "even worst than I thought" and it is "vandalism". But Jaromil, as Chris La