Re: [DNG] Unable to Install
On 04/14/2018 10:29 AM, Vernon Geiszler wrote: On 14 Apr 2018, at 18:37, Florian Zieboll wrote: Hallo Vernon, did you verify the integrity of the stick? In doubt, I'd checksum the iso and create a new boot stick. There are also a lot cheap USB sticks around, which anonce a higher capacity than they actually have. The OS does not recognize this on write. IIRC the installer has an option to verify its integrity, too. Can't get to the installer. I use the net install iso. If you have not tried it maybe give it a try. :) https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii_beta/installer-iso/ https://devuan.4isp.it/devuan_jessie/installer-iso/ Cheers! -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 Registered Linux User #380263 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Unable to Install
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 10:29:58AM -0700, Vernon Geiszler wrote: [cut] > >> > >> Libre Grüße, > >> > >> Florian > > > > I’ve also found that too. Cheap USB sticks that work fine for file storage > > but have problems when trying to boot from the drive. > > > > Trying again with the same .iso on a better quality USB stick would work > > fine. > > Used the same brand of USB as the jessie is on and same issue > > > > > > —Tom > > > > -- > Thanks for the responses. Though is still doesn't answer the question > why the USB with jessie on can install on two other machines and an HP > laptop and not the Thinkpad. > Just a silly question: are you sure you dd-ed the image on /dev/sdX instead than /dev/sdX1, for instance? It happens. Sorry if unrelated. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Unable to Install
>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 18:37, Florian Zieboll wrote: >> >> Hallo Vernon, >> >> did you verify the integrity of the stick? In doubt, I'd checksum the iso >> and create a new boot stick. >> >> There are also a lot cheap USB sticks around, which anonce a higher capacity >> than they actually have. The OS does not recognize this on write. >> >> IIRC the installer has an option to verify its integrity, too. Can't get to the installer. >> >> Libre Grüße, >> >> Florian > > I’ve also found that too. Cheap USB sticks that work fine for file storage > but have problems when trying to boot from the drive. > > Trying again with the same .iso on a better quality USB stick would work fine. Used the same brand of USB as the jessie is on and same issue > > —Tom > > -- Thanks for the responses. Though is still doesn't answer the question why the USB with jessie on can install on two other machines and an HP laptop and not the Thinkpad. Vernon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?
On 04/14/2018 08:38 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 04/14/2018 08:34 AM, KatolaZ wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 08:22:56AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 ^^ I really don't know what you mean. *You* mentioned Devuan Beowulf, and I told you that Beowulf is currently unusable. There is little point into reporting problems about Beowulf at this stage: we need to build several packages there before you can do much with it. Apparently you're mistaken, I'm using it now. :) I don't test stable, I use stable, no fun testing stable. :) -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 Registered Linux User #380263 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 08:38:35AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: [cut] > > > >I really don't know what you mean. *You* mentioned Devuan Beowulf, and > >I told you that Beowulf is currently unusable. There is little point > >into reporting problems about Beowulf at this stage: we need to build > >several packages there before you can do much with it. > > > Apparently you're mistaken, I'm using it now. :) Great! Have fun. HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?
On 04/14/2018 08:34 AM, KatolaZ wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 08:22:56AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: [cut] Hello, nice to meet you! I'm the Linux Tester. TDE-Trinity on ASCII is a clean install. [cut] Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 ^^ I really don't know what you mean. *You* mentioned Devuan Beowulf, and I told you that Beowulf is currently unusable. There is little point into reporting problems about Beowulf at this stage: we need to build several packages there before you can do much with it. Apparently you're mistaken, I'm using it now. :) Cheers! -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 Registered Linux User #380263 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 08:22:56AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: [cut] > > > Hello, nice to meet you! I'm the Linux Tester. > > TDE-Trinity on ASCII is a clean install. > [cut] > > Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 ^^ I really don't know what you mean. *You* mentioned Devuan Beowulf, and I told you that Beowulf is currently unusable. There is little point into reporting problems about Beowulf at this stage: we need to build several packages there before you can do much with it. HTH KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?
On 04/14/2018 08:14 AM, KatolaZ wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 07:49:35AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 04/10/2018 02:37 PM, chillfan wrote: What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than KDE/Plasma? Sorry, I don't know what TLDR means? A required package in Beowulf is synaptic and it's not installable. Using aptitude I'm able to install without synaptic, but Trinity has kpackage to help making package installing a little easy. To do a proper install policykit-1 needs to install. beowulf has not been released, and not even announced. There is some work to be done on beowulf's repos before you can install any desktop. It could become usable on server environments relatively soon. Hello, nice to meet you! I'm the Linux Tester. TDE-Trinity on ASCII is a clean install. Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 Registered Linux User #380263 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?
On Saturday 14 April 2018 at 16:49:35, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/2018 02:37 PM, chillfan wrote: > > What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than > > KDE/Plasma? > > Sorry, I don't know what TLDR means? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tldr Antony. -- This email was created using 100% recycled electrons. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?
On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 07:49:35AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/2018 02:37 PM, chillfan wrote: > >What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than KDE/Plasma? > > > Sorry, I don't know what TLDR means? > A required package in Beowulf is synaptic and it's not installable. Using > aptitude I'm able to install without synaptic, but Trinity has kpackage to > help making package installing a little easy. To do a proper install > policykit-1 needs to install. beowulf has not been released, and not even announced. There is some work to be done on beowulf's repos before you can install any desktop. It could become usable on server environments relatively soon. HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?
On 04/10/2018 04:22 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2018 10 Apr 16:38 -0500, chillfan wrote: What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than KDE/Plasma? I've not looked lately, but it started life after the KDE devs stopped supporting KDE 3.5.x and focused on KDE4. What it has acquired in the meantime, I don't know. Answers may be available at: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ root@jimmy-1:/home/jimmy# aptitude install tde-trinity The following NEW packages will be installed: The following packages have unmet dependencies: policykit-1 : Depends: libpam-systemd which is a virtual package and is not provided by any available package The following actions will resolve these dependencies: Keep the following packages at their current version: 1) policykit-1 [Not Installed] 2) synaptic [Not Installed] 3) synaptic-trinity [Not Installed] 4) tde-core-trinity [Not Installed] 5) tde-trinity [Not Installed] Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 Registered Linux User #380263 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?
On 04/10/2018 04:22 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2018 10 Apr 16:38 -0500, chillfan wrote: What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than KDE/Plasma? I've not looked lately, but it started life after the KDE devs stopped supporting KDE 3.5.x and focused on KDE4. What it has acquired in the meantime, I don't know. Answers may be available at: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ KDE4 would be great, the version in Jessie is a favorite, best install. I just don't want systemd or plasma and I do want a spectre patched system to use, but Jessie is not patched while Sid, Buster and Stretch are patched. Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Beowulf - TDE-Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8 Registered Linux User #380263 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?
On 04/10/2018 02:37 PM, chillfan wrote:
What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than KDE/Plasma?
Sorry, I don't know what TLDR means?
A required package in Beowulf is synaptic and it's not installable.
Using aptitude I'm able to install without synaptic, but Trinity has
kpackage to help making package installing a little easy. To do a
proper install policykit-1 needs to install.
jimmy@jimmy-1
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jimmy@jimmy-1:~$ su
Password:
root@jimmy-1:/home/jimmy# aptitude install synaptic
The following NEW packages will be installed:
docbook-xml{a} libept1.5.0{a} libpcre2-8-0{a} libpolkit-agent-1-0{a}
libpolkit-backend-1-0{a}
libpolkit-gobject-1-0{a} librarian0{a} libvte-2.91-0{a}
libvte-2.91-common{a} policykit-1{ab}
rarian-compat{a} sgml-base{a} sgml-data{a} synaptic xml-core{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
sudo-trinity{u}
0 packages upgraded, 15 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 4,196 kB of archives. After unpacking 15.6 MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
policykit-1 : Depends: libpam-systemd which is a virtual package and
is not provided by any available package
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Keep the following packages at their current version:
1) policykit-1 [Not Installed]
2) synaptic [Not Installed]
Cheers,
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Re: [DNG] Unable to Install
On Saturday 14 April 2018 at 12:46:26, Bastiaan van den Berg wrote: > in my experience, 9 out of 10 times 'unable to use USB stick for booting' > is just partition layout (partition not starting on 4MB interval or wrong > type/flags) How can that happen when you download an ISO image and put it directly on the USB stick, partition table included? It's not like you're partitioning / formatting the USB stick yourself and then writing files to it. Antony. > On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 12:34 PM, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On 14 Apr 2018, at 18:37, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > > > > Am 14. April 2018 02:34:16 MESZ schrieb Vernon Geiszler: > > >> The jessie stick does boot. It just won't retieve the binary-amd64 > > >> package. The ascii stick shows no operating system. It seems the > > >> auto run is not working. I just tried it on the tower I just > > >> installed using the jessie stick and got no response. It seems the > > >> auto run is not working. > > > > > > Hallo Vernon, > > > > > > did you verify the integrity of the stick? In doubt, I'd checksum the > > > iso and create a new boot stick. > > > > > > There are also a lot cheap USB sticks around, which anonce a higher > > > capacity than they actually have. The OS does not recognize this on > > > write. > > > > > > IIRC the installer has an option to verify its integrity, too. > > > > > > Libre Grüße, > > > > > > Florian > > > > I’ve also found that too. Cheap USB sticks that work fine for file > > storage but have problems when trying to boot from the drive. > > > > Trying again with the same .iso on a better quality USB stick would work > > fine. > > > > —Tom -- My life is going completely according to plan. I do sometimes wish it had been *my* plan, though. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Unable to Install
in my experience, 9 out of 10 times 'unable to use USB stick for booting' is just partition layout (partition not starting on 4MB interval or wrong type/flags) On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 12:34 PM, wrote: > > > On 14 Apr 2018, at 18:37, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > > Am 14. April 2018 02:34:16 MESZ schrieb Vernon Geiszler < > vernon.geisz...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> The jessie stick does boot. It just won't retieve the binary-amd64 > >> package. The ascii stick shows no operating system. It seems the > >> auto run is not working. I just tried it on the tower I just > >> installed using the jessie stick and got no response. It seems the > >> auto run is not working. > > > > > > Hallo Vernon, > > > > did you verify the integrity of the stick? In doubt, I'd checksum the > iso and create a new boot stick. > > > > There are also a lot cheap USB sticks around, which anonce a higher > capacity than they actually have. The OS does not recognize this on write. > > > > IIRC the installer has an option to verify its integrity, too. > > > > Libre Grüße, > > > > Florian > > I’ve also found that too. Cheap USB sticks that work fine for file storage > but have problems when trying to boot from the drive. > > Trying again with the same .iso on a better quality USB stick would work > fine. > > —Tom > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Unable to Install
> On 14 Apr 2018, at 18:37, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > Am 14. April 2018 02:34:16 MESZ schrieb Vernon Geiszler > : >> >> The jessie stick does boot. It just won't retieve the binary-amd64 >> package. The ascii stick shows no operating system. It seems the >> auto run is not working. I just tried it on the tower I just >> installed using the jessie stick and got no response. It seems the >> auto run is not working. > > > Hallo Vernon, > > did you verify the integrity of the stick? In doubt, I'd checksum the iso and > create a new boot stick. > > There are also a lot cheap USB sticks around, which anonce a higher capacity > than they actually have. The OS does not recognize this on write. > > IIRC the installer has an option to verify its integrity, too. > > Libre Grüße, > > Florian I’ve also found that too. Cheap USB sticks that work fine for file storage but have problems when trying to boot from the drive. Trying again with the same .iso on a better quality USB stick would work fine. —Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Unable to Install
Am 14. April 2018 02:34:16 MESZ schrieb Vernon Geiszler : > > The jessie stick does boot. It just won't retieve the binary-amd64 > package. The ascii stick shows no operating system. It seems the > auto run is not working. I just tried it on the tower I just > installed using the jessie stick and got no response. It seems the > auto run is not working. Hallo Vernon, did you verify the integrity of the stick? In doubt, I'd checksum the iso and create a new boot stick. There are also a lot cheap USB sticks around, which anonce a higher capacity than they actually have. The OS does not recognize this on write. IIRC the installer has an option to verify its integrity, too. Libre Grüße, Florian -- [message sent mobile] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
