[DNG] Problem booting kernel linux-image-4.9.0-7-amd64 with Xen.

2018-07-27 Thread Héctor González
Hello, this is a heads up for other Xen users, linux-image-4.9.0-7-amd64 -the kernel package now in ascii-security- has a bug which will prevent booting from Xen both as Dom0 and DomU. There is a bug report at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=903767 now marked as solved, but

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-27 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Freitag, 27. Juli 2018 schrieb Eric Lee Elliott: > How can I make hardware keys work in a Thinkpad T500?  Vol+, Vol- & Mute > are only ones I would use. In other Linux distros the mute, vol+ & vol - > keys work.  A link to a way would be good enough for me. Do you have "acpi-support"

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-27 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Freitag, 27. Juli 2018 schrieb KatolaZ: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 11:37:57AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > [...] > > Well, yes, but the wole point of removing libsystemd0 would be to get rid > > of anything systemd, not to magle the systemd sources to do nothing (which > > would be a

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-27 Thread Joel Roth
Eric Lee Elliott wrote: > How can I make hardware keys work in a Thinkpad T500?  Vol+, Vol- & Mute are > only ones I would use. In other Linux distros the mute, vol+ & vol - keys > work.  A link to a way would be good enough for me. I haven't tried it, but it looks like the 'bind' command will

[DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-27 Thread Eric Lee Elliott
How can I make hardware keys work in a Thinkpad T500?  Vol+, Vol- & Mute are only ones I would use. In other Linux distros the mute, vol+ & vol - keys work.  A link to a way would be good enough for me. In the discussions of security & kernel, other internal computers seem hidden from

Re: [DNG] Provides: libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)

2018-07-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 10:55:21 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote in message <8bf10b143787869cbb7e72c798927...@dyne.org>: > On 2018-07-27 09:37, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > > > I did not mean to drop the hack. I only meant to not make it part > > of a package with a name that associates with

Re: [DNG] This is a losing battle, against the propaganda of redhat.

2018-07-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:09:13 -0500, Эльбрус wrote in message <1532624953.7475.10.ca...@asynchronousexchange.com>: > On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 18:10 +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl > wrote: > > > > I am not into conspiracy theories and keep it simple: > >

Re: [DNG] Provides: libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)

2018-07-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:00:06 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > I just realized that true init-freedom should be systemd-inclusive, so > don't put that dpkg-cfg hack in any kind of "init-freedom" package, > please. I'm pretty sure I was the person who originated the phrase "init-freedom". This can

Re: [DNG] Provides: libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)

2018-07-27 Thread golinux
On 2018-07-27 09:37, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: I did not mean to drop the hack. I only meant to not make it part of a package with a name that associates with init-freedom. Keep the hack and put it in a differently named package. Maybe something like

Re: [DNG] ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer

2018-07-27 Thread marc
> Am 2018-07-27 08:37, schrieb marc: > >It could be that your process table is full - Run ps fax and > >understand what each process does. > > > >Alternatively /dev/pts isn't mounted, or (less likely) you > >are running something like fail2ban ? > > My problem is, I cannot look at it when it

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-27 Thread golinux
On 2018-07-27 05:18, Lars Noodén wrote: On 07/27/2018 01:00 PM, KatolaZ wrote: [...] I need to specify here that a *maintainer* is a person who follows the changes happening upstream to the packages he/she is maintaining on a daily basis, and rebuilds those packages as necessary, keeping them

Re: [DNG] This is a losing battle, against the propaganda of redhat.

2018-07-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 15:40:02 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message <20180726194002.kdw7ht2dv52b6...@topoi.pooq.com>: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:07:42AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > > > Anyone thinking of dissing a nation on this *technical*

Re: [DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-27 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:06:59 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > 'The failure mode of clever is "asshole."' This is a family list; so: 'The failure mode of clever is "orifice".' Cheers, Ron. -- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new

Re: [DNG] ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer

2018-07-27 Thread Simon Hobson
marc wrote: > It could be that your process table is full - Run ps fax and > understand what each process does. Now, there's a bit of a catch 22 there ... It's headless, he's not able to SSH (or Telnet) in, and needs to log in via SSH (or Telnet) to run a command to find out why he can't

Re: [DNG] Provides: libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)

2018-07-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Arnt Karlsen writes: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:00:06 +0900, Olaf wrote in message > <87va92gnjd@member.fsf.org>: > >> Hi, >> >> Minor correction in-lined below. >> >> Olaf Meeuwissen writes: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > KatolaZ writes: >> > >> >> The medium-term plan is to replace libsystemd0

Re: [DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-27 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:06:59 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > 'The failure mode of clever is "asshole."' Oh god that's spectacular. It also explains a lot.. I'll have to meditate on this. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-27 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 12:00:05 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > Unfortunately, most of the great people that helped stripping > libsystemd deps in Jessie, just disappeared soon after One of the tricks is to get a disliked project up and running to make it the de facto alternative, then either pulling out

Re: [DNG] Provides: libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)

2018-07-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:00:06 +0900, Olaf wrote in message <87va92gnjd@member.fsf.org>: > Hi, > > Minor correction in-lined below. > > Olaf Meeuwissen writes: > > > Hi, > > > > KatolaZ writes: > > > >> The medium-term plan is to replace libsystemd0 with a libnosystemd > >> which

[DNG] An eudev oddity ?

2018-07-27 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
Given a USB pendrive that was one used to hold a Linux install .iso (dd ... of:/dev/sdi...) then formatted and used as /dev/sdi1 to store data. When plugged in, I see it appear in the PCManFM "Places" as both sdi and LABEL; either can be mounted, and its content browsed, opened, etc. Is the

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-27 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 01:18:41PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: [cut] > > Can you please (re-)post the link to the new Devuan build process? > Dear Lars, it's under "Deveopment": https://devuan.org/os/development and the relevant link is the fourth one:

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-27 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/27/2018 01:00 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > [...] I need to specify here that a *maintainer* is a person who > follows the changes happening upstream to the packages he/she is > maintaining on a daily basis, and rebuilds those packages as > necessary, keeping them updated. And commits herself to do

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-27 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 11:37:57AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Am Freitag, 27. Juli 2018 schrieb KatolaZ: > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:05:54AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Sorry, this may break the thread but I already deleted the original > > > message. > > > > > > To make

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-27 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Freitag, 27. Juli 2018 schrieb KatolaZ: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:05:54AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Sorry, this may break the thread but I already deleted the original message. > > > > To make things short: this a minimal "libnosystemd" for sshd on ascii. It > > basicly does

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-27 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:05:54AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Sorry, this may break the thread but I already deleted the original message. > > To make things short: this a minimal "libnosystemd" for sshd on ascii. It > basicly does nothing at all. To be more specific, it does exactly the

Re: [DNG] Provides: libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)

2018-07-27 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 07:09:59PM +, Daniel Abrecht wrote: [cut] > > Another problem could arise though, how stable are the systemd APIs? I > once wrote https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/sd_journal_shim , it > generates the libjournal library and just provides a subset of > systemds

Re: [DNG] ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer

2018-07-27 Thread marc
> $telnet odroid.lan > Trying 192.168.1.2... > Connected to odroid.lan. > Escape character is '^]'. > Connection closed by foreign host. > > Any ideas what could be causing this? It could be that your process table is full - Run ps fax and understand what each process does. Alternatively

[DNG] ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer

2018-07-27 Thread J. Fahrner
Hi all, I have a headless Odroid C2 running "Devuan GNU/Linux 2.0 (ascii) (3.8.13.30)", all packages are up to date. Often, when I try to connect through ssh I get the following error: ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer The only way to get access to it is removing

Re: [DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-27 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > Communication often gets lost in 'translation' especially across > cultures but sometimes even within the same culture. Rick's posts > often contain subtle language that could challenge even native > speakers. I thank you very much -- and have to

[DNG] This is a losing battle, against the propaganda of redhat.

2018-07-27 Thread Edward Bartolo
"Propoganda"? Why not use the more appropriate word, "marketing"? This kind of mail threads should be marked as SPAM or TRASH. Devuan needs to prove itself to be a viable alternative that works, and that lets computer admins/users configure their systems as they need, without the requirement of