Re: [DNG] Trouble with .onion addresses?

2018-12-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 08:04:51PM +, ghostlands via Dng wrote:
> devuanfwojg73k6r.onion is down again. Does anyone know if this just a matter 
> of waiting for it to be fixed, or should we begin planning for a different 
> workflow?
> 
> gl

Please define "down" vs "up". The service on the Devuan side has been
running without interruption. We are not sure about the onion
addresses it redirects to for packages coming directly from Debian. A
bit more detail than "does not work" (e.g., providing the error
message spat out by apt, or the name of the onion service that is
failing) could be useful to pinpoint problems.

TIA

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] slashes in FAT file names

2018-12-21 Thread rainerh

Hendrik Boom  schrieb am Sa 22 Dez 2018 04:23:14 CET:


Does anyone have any ideas here other than begging, borrowing, or
buying a Windows system?


The forward slash isn't allowed in filenames on Windows too:

https://docs.microsoft.com/de-de/windows/desktop/FileIO/naming-a-file#naming-conventions

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Re: [DNG] slashes in FAT file names

2018-12-21 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):

> I have a 32GiB microSD card an am reying to read it on my Devuan system.
> I munted it with a simpel mount /dev/sdb1 /nedia/hendrik/
> 
> It reads almost everything fine, except for a few files whose names 
> contain '/' characters.  I can handle the other horribly weird 
> characters in file names -- emacs Rename in the directory 
> editor works just fine.  But the names containing '/'s even have 
> emacs stymied.

Rename them.

1.  'ls -i'   #Gets the inode number.
2.  'find . -inum "inode-number-from-ls -i" -exec mv {} "newfilename" \;'

Man, I hate files with pathological filenames, and some of the
other-OS-originating examples are among the worst.
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Re: [DNG] slashes in FAT file names

2018-12-21 Thread golinux

On 2018-12-21 21:23, Hendrik Boom wrote:


Does anyone have any ideas here other than begging, borrowing, or
buying a Windows system?

-- hendrik

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Don't use / in filenames.  I thought it was a no-no.  Yes it is:

"File names in Linux can contain any characters other than (1) a forward 
slash ( / ), which is reserved for use as the name of the root directory 
(i.e., the directory that contains all other directories and files) and 
as a directory separator . . ."


http://www.linfo.org/file_name.html

golinux
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[DNG] slashes in FAT file names

2018-12-21 Thread Hendrik Boom
I have a 32GiB microSD card an am reying to read it on my Devuan system.
I munted it with a simpel mount /dev/sdb1 /nedia/hendrik/

It reads almost everything fine, except for a few files whose names 
contain '/' characters.  I can handle the other horribly weird 
characters in file names -- emacs Rename in the directory 
editor works just fine.  But the names containing '/'s even have 
emacs stymied.

ls -l lists them like this:

-rw-r--r-- 1 hendrik hendrik   0 Sep  1  2007 06 - Track 6.mq3
-? ? ?   ? ?? 07/TRA~1.MP3
-rw-r--r-- 1 hendrik hendrik 3585716 Sep  1  2007 08-URA~1.MP3

With the slash, it can't even figure out the permissions, ownership, or 
file size.  Preumably some parts of the system interpret the '/' as the 
directory name separator, and in this file system that's not what it 
is.

Does anyone have any ideas here other than begging, borrowing, or 
buying a Windows system?

-- hendrik

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Re: [DNG] Drive-by critique

2018-12-21 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl):

> Well, about that...  Not so long ago I helped a relative by installing
> Redmontware.  It was a long, arduous process, during which I had to fetch
> and copy in drivers for six pieces of hardware.  Most of those couldn't be
> even found on their manufacturer's website -- I had to scour some random
> seedy webpages.

Some of the drivers, even those shipped _with_ Redmondware, were
notoriously so buggy that you could seldom make them function at all.  I
believe it was 1998 that I spent a week at a client site in Portland,
Oregon, and among other things was putting 3Com 3C905TX PCI NICs into
workstations running MS-Windows 98.  ISTR that I had access to the NDIS
driver both from the OS and directly from 3Com -- and the problem was
that, about 19 times out of 20, Device Manager showed the driver to be
non-functional after you assembled the network stack.  So, you deleted
the entire network stack, maybe waved a dead chicken or two, reinstalled
the NIC driver and network stack again, and re-tested.  Repeat until it
suddenly works.  Nobody knew of a better workaround, and impliedly OEMs
who shipped a working configuration with 3C905TX NICs had gone through
the same madness until a test box worked, and then disk-imaged that
fluke success for mass replication.

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Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 20/12/18 at 15:32, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 00:59:35 +1100, Ralph wrote in message 
> :
>
>> There is this notion of "kexec boot"; I've never tried it, but it's
>> documentation claims "kexec  is  a system call that enables you to
>> load and boot into another kernel from the currently running kernel."
>>
>> Maybe it comes with too many ifs and buts to be a viable approach.
>>
>> Ralph.
> ..I used to "kexec reboot" a lot in my pre-systemd Debian days, 
> AFAIR, bought me nice long uptimes with new kernels. ;o)


  AFAIR, uptime is not maintained through a kexec.



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Re: [DNG] Trouble with .onion addresses?

2018-12-21 Thread ghostlands via Dng
devuanfwojg73k6r.onion is down again. Does anyone know if this just a matter of 
waiting for it to be fixed, or should we begin planning for a different 
workflow?

gl


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:14 PM, Arnt Karlsen  wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 09:09:27 -0600, lpb+dev...@kandl.houston.tx.us
> wrote in message
> 7cc26988-7303-e0c5-99f4-88c7fa678...@kandl.houston.tx.us:
>
> > On 12/20/18 8:40 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 09:35:45 -0600, lpb+dev...@kandl.houston.tx.us
> > > wrote in message
> > > c6214f76-b463-b103-b1fe-926cc54b5...@kandl.houston.tx.us:
> > >
> > > > I'm all of a sudden having trouble using the .onion addresses.
> > > > They've worked fine for me for months. I'm getting "could not
> > > > connect to devuanfwojg73k6r.onion (0.0.0.0:0) due to: Host
> > > > unreachable (6)"
> > > > Is anyone else having this trouble? Thanks!
> > >
> > > ..chk again now, I have it up.
> >
> > Thanks! It works again!
>
> ..thank the guys who fixed it :o), I merely chked and saw
> it ( http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/ ) was up.
>
> --
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Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-21 Thread . fsmithred via Dng
On 12/21/18, g4sra via Dng  wrote:

> Thanks for the video, it took me more than three attempts :P.
> I had existing partitions on the drive that I needed to keep so did not
> go near the 'use entire disk' option. The partitioning in the video does
> not encrypt the entire disk, it leaves /boot outside. Kernel and initrd
> are exposed giving a potential attack vector.

Yes, it's confusing. And yes, I made the video before I knew how to do
full disk encryption. I thought d-i did it correctly, but I might be
remembering wrong. I know refractainstaller will do full disk
encryption and add the cryptodisk line to /etc/default/grub. It won't
edit cryptsetup.functions for you to help with shutdown. I've seen a
few different fixes for that. If it's not fixed upstream, I guess I
should pick one.

fsr
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Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-21 Thread lpb+devuan


On 12/21/18 7:41 AM, g4sra via Dng wrote:
> 
>> Here's a video showing how to create an encrypted partition using the
>> manual partitioning step in the installer. You probably did it wrong.
>> Don't feel bad - I did it wrong three times before I got it right for
>> the video, and I've done this before.
>> http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/misc/partition_encrypt-4.ogv
> 
> Thanks for the video, it took me more than three attempts :P.
> I had existing partitions on the drive that I needed to keep so did not
> go near the 'use entire disk' option. The partitioning in the video does
> not encrypt the entire disk, it leaves /boot outside. Kernel and initrd
> are exposed giving a potential attack vector.

If you have a BIOS that will boot from a USB disk then you can encrypt
your whole hard drive. You have to protect the USB disk, though, and
should probably keep a few in case one fails.

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Re: [DNG] Drive-by critique

2018-12-21 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 04:33:32AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> 
> I forgot the details why, but during the process I resorted to a small
> Debian partition.  Every piece of hardware was supported perfectly,
> including even that machine's USB wifi card.

I've found a Linux partition is essential for installing WIndows.
Every time Windows requests a reboot, I suborn it ny rebooting to 
Linux, doing a complete nackup of the Windows system, and then 
rebooting to resume the installation.

When the installer crashes, I restore the lastest partly installed 
Windows from backup and resume.

Worked like a charm.

Of course, that was years and years ago.  I don't have any idea what 
installing WIndows is like now.

-- hendrik
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Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-21 Thread g4sra via Dng

> Here's a video showing how to create an encrypted partition using the
> manual partitioning step in the installer. You probably did it wrong.
> Don't feel bad - I did it wrong three times before I got it right for
> the video, and I've done this before.
> http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/misc/partition_encrypt-4.ogv

Thanks for the video, it took me more than three attempts :P.
I had existing partitions on the drive that I needed to keep so did not
go near the 'use entire disk' option. The partitioning in the video does
not encrypt the entire disk, it leaves /boot outside. Kernel and initrd
are exposed giving a potential attack vector.
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Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-21 Thread . fsmithred via Dng
On 12/17/18, g4sra via Dng  wrote:
> On 17/12/2018 00:41, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On 16/12/18 at 13:28, KatolaZ wrote:
>>> automagic disk encryption,

>>   The present impossibility of installing ASCII on an encrypted root is
>> a show-stopper to my laptop installs
> The most taxing step in my case was getting the partitioner to do what I
> wanted.
> I could not skip that step and manually partition as I could find no easy
> way of
> then defining the mount points (tips please, if anyone has any).

Here's a video showing how to create an encrypted partition using the
manual partitioning step in the installer. You probably did it wrong.
Don't feel bad - I did it wrong three times before I got it right for
the video, and I've done this before.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/misc/partition_encrypt-4.ogv

fsmithred
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