Re: [DNG] Configuring cron and exim4 to send e-mail after running cronjob

2020-11-14 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 04:38:46PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> I tried running "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config".  I selected "Mail sent by
> smarthost; no local mail" and then took all of the defaults.  I then tried
> to send a test e-mail using the command shown in the link you sent.  I get
> the response "Thunderbird 78.4.3" which is the version of Thunderbird that I
> am running, but no e-mail gets through to my account.

The linked to article doesn't seem to mention adding credentials for
the smarthost. You add them in:

/etc/exim4/passwd.client

See if that helps.

Greg


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Re: [DNG] Jessie to Ascii upgrade

2020-11-14 Thread Gastón via Dng
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 08:13:15PM -0600, o1bigtenor wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:29 PM Gastón via Dng  wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 02:36:36PM -0700, Fred wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I want to upgrade from Debian Jessie to Devuan.  Apparently all I need to 
> > > do
> > > is change the sources list and do a dist-upgrade.
> > >
> > > Is this likely to go smoothly?  If there are any problems I would probably
> > > not have Internet to ask for help.
> > >
> > > How does the upgrade get rid of systemd and everything associated with it?
> > > Or how does one do that?
> >
> > Migrate from Debian Jessie to Beowulf guide:
> > https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/dev1fanboy/en/jessie-to-beowulf.md
> >
> >
> Some question(s) on that.
> It would seem that gnome is important to Beowulf - - -yes?
> I have been running light weight desktops like LXMT (I think it was)
> and now LXQT
> after I found the KDE was just too weighty.
> So I'll start with that one question - - - - does Beowulf mean that I
> need to run Gnome?
> 
> Regards

gnome is mentioned because it is the DE that is installed by default in
Debian. If you don't have it installed, you can skip that part

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Re: [DNG] Jessie to Ascii upgrade

2020-11-14 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 7:29 PM Gastón via Dng  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 02:36:36PM -0700, Fred wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I want to upgrade from Debian Jessie to Devuan.  Apparently all I need to do
> > is change the sources list and do a dist-upgrade.
> >
> > Is this likely to go smoothly?  If there are any problems I would probably
> > not have Internet to ask for help.
> >
> > How does the upgrade get rid of systemd and everything associated with it?
> > Or how does one do that?
>
> Migrate from Debian Jessie to Beowulf guide:
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/dev1fanboy/en/jessie-to-beowulf.md
>
>
Some question(s) on that.
It would seem that gnome is important to Beowulf - - -yes?
I have been running light weight desktops like LXMT (I think it was)
and now LXQT
after I found the KDE was just too weighty.
So I'll start with that one question - - - - does Beowulf mean that I
need to run Gnome?

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Re: [DNG] Ancient releases

2020-11-14 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
On 14/11 20:17, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 06:40:45PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> > On 2020-11-14 18:06, d...@d404.nl wrote:
> > > On 14-11-2020 22:36, Fred wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > I want to upgrade from Debian Jessie to Devuan.  Apparently all I need
> > > > to do is change the sources list and do a dist-upgrade.
> > > > 
> > > > Is this likely to go smoothly?  If there are any problems I would
> > > > probably not have Internet to ask for help.
> > > > 
> > > > How does the upgrade get rid of systemd and everything associated with
> > > > it?  Or how does one do that?
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Fred
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> > > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
> > > 
> > > Coming from Debian you maybe should change your sources list first to
> > > 
> > > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged jessie main
> > > 
> > > and install the devuan-keyring and sysvinit-core before you move over to
> > > devuan ascii.
> 
> Is there a line for sources that will access an archived Debian release?  I'm 
> interested in running some software that was dropped from Debian about a 
> decade ago.  I still have a bootable partition with that ancient release 
> lying round somewhere.

The archived Devuan jessie is available at archive.devuan.org/merged,
with its Packages files referring to the likewise archived Debian
packages at archive.debian.org/debian.

E.g, you may have the following sources.list line:

deb http://archive.devuan.org/merged jessie main

for accessing the Devuan jessie packages, including the directly
incorporated debian packages.

Ralph.
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Re: [DNG] Jessie to Ascii upgrade

2020-11-14 Thread Gastón via Dng
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 02:36:36PM -0700, Fred wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I want to upgrade from Debian Jessie to Devuan.  Apparently all I need to do
> is change the sources list and do a dist-upgrade.
> 
> Is this likely to go smoothly?  If there are any problems I would probably
> not have Internet to ask for help.
> 
> How does the upgrade get rid of systemd and everything associated with it?
> Or how does one do that?

Migrate from Debian Jessie to Beowulf guide: 
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/dev1fanboy/en/jessie-to-beowulf.md



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> Fred
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[DNG] Ancient releases

2020-11-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 06:40:45PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> On 2020-11-14 18:06, d...@d404.nl wrote:
> > On 14-11-2020 22:36, Fred wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I want to upgrade from Debian Jessie to Devuan.  Apparently all I need
> > > to do is change the sources list and do a dist-upgrade.
> > > 
> > > Is this likely to go smoothly?  If there are any problems I would
> > > probably not have Internet to ask for help.
> > > 
> > > How does the upgrade get rid of systemd and everything associated with
> > > it?  Or how does one do that?
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Fred
> > > ___
> > > Dng mailing list
> > > Dng@lists.dyne.org
> > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
> > 
> > Coming from Debian you maybe should change your sources list first to
> > 
> > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged jessie main
> > 
> > and install the devuan-keyring and sysvinit-core before you move over to
> > devuan ascii.

Is there a line for sources that will access an archived Debian release?  I'm 
interested in running some software that was dropped from Debian about a 
decade ago.  I still have a bootable partition with that ancient release 
lying round somewhere.

-- hendrik
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Re: [DNG] Jessie to Ascii upgrade

2020-11-14 Thread golinux

On 2020-11-14 18:06, d...@d404.nl wrote:

On 14-11-2020 22:36, Fred wrote:

Hello,

I want to upgrade from Debian Jessie to Devuan.  Apparently all I need
to do is change the sources list and do a dist-upgrade.

Is this likely to go smoothly?  If there are any problems I would
probably not have Internet to ask for help.

How does the upgrade get rid of systemd and everything associated with
it?  Or how does one do that?

Best regards,
Fred
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Coming from Debian you maybe should change your sources list first to

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged jessie main

and install the devuan-keyring and sysvinit-core before you move over 
to

devuan ascii.

Grtz

Nick



deb.devuan.org no longer works for jessie because it has been archived 
at http://archive.devuan.org/merged/ jessie but . . . atm rrq is messing 
with that server so it  will be out of commission for a while. I just 
tried and it's dead, Jim . . .


golinux
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Re: [DNG] Configuring cron and exim4 to send e-mail after running cronjob

2020-11-14 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng


On 11/14/20 4:12 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:

On 15-11-2020 01:03, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:

I use Thunderbird for e-mail, so I have never bothered with
configuring an MTA.

I have a few lines in root's crontab to do periodic backups and I
would like to receive an e-mail when the job is completed.  I have
added a MAILTO line to my crontab with my gmail address.  The job
runs, the backup is created, but I do not receive any e-mail from
cron.  I am assuming that I need to run dpkg-reconfigure on
exim4-config, but I don't want to mess up my e-mail that is going
through Thunderbird.

Can anyone tell me how to configure exim4-config to do this, or
provide a link that will rpovide this information?


Marc


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Are you sure that your exim4 mta has not been simply denied access by
Google because it has no static ip, spf, dkim etcetera? An alternative
would be to use your isp smtp-server by configuring it as a smarthost
like in this example
https://www.4armed.com/blog/install-and-configure-exim-4-smtp-relay-via-smarthost-on-ubuntu/

Grtz

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I tried running "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config".  I selected "Mail sent 
by smarthost; no local mail" and then took all of the defaults.  I then 
tried to send a test e-mail using the command shown in the link you 
sent.  I get the response "Thunderbird 78.4.3" which is the version of 
Thunderbird that I am running, but no e-mail gets through to my account.



Marc


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Re: [DNG] Configuring cron and exim4 to send e-mail after running cronjob

2020-11-14 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 15-11-2020 01:03, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> I use Thunderbird for e-mail, so I have never bothered with
> configuring an MTA.
>
> I have a few lines in root's crontab to do periodic backups and I
> would like to receive an e-mail when the job is completed.  I have
> added a MAILTO line to my crontab with my gmail address.  The job
> runs, the backup is created, but I do not receive any e-mail from
> cron.  I am assuming that I need to run dpkg-reconfigure on
> exim4-config, but I don't want to mess up my e-mail that is going
> through Thunderbird.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to configure exim4-config to do this, or
> provide a link that will rpovide this information?
>
>
> Marc
>
>
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Are you sure that your exim4 mta has not been simply denied access by
Google because it has no static ip, spf, dkim etcetera? An alternative
would be to use your isp smtp-server by configuring it as a smarthost
like in this example
https://www.4armed.com/blog/install-and-configure-exim-4-smtp-relay-via-smarthost-on-ubuntu/

Grtz

Nick

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Re: [DNG] Jessie to Ascii upgrade

2020-11-14 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 14-11-2020 22:36, Fred wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I want to upgrade from Debian Jessie to Devuan.  Apparently all I need
> to do is change the sources list and do a dist-upgrade.
>
> Is this likely to go smoothly?  If there are any problems I would
> probably not have Internet to ask for help.
>
> How does the upgrade get rid of systemd and everything associated with
> it?  Or how does one do that?
>
> Best regards,
> Fred
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Coming from Debian you maybe should change your sources list first to

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged jessie main

and install the devuan-keyring and sysvinit-core before you move over to
devuan ascii.

Grtz

Nick


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[DNG] Configuring cron and exim4 to send e-mail after running cronjob

2020-11-14 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng
I use Thunderbird for e-mail, so I have never bothered with configuring 
an MTA.


I have a few lines in root's crontab to do periodic backups and I would 
like to receive an e-mail when the job is completed.  I have added a 
MAILTO line to my crontab with my gmail address.  The job runs, the 
backup is created, but I do not receive any e-mail from cron.  I am 
assuming that I need to run dpkg-reconfigure on exim4-config, but I 
don't want to mess up my e-mail that is going through Thunderbird.


Can anyone tell me how to configure exim4-config to do this, or provide 
a link that will rpovide this information?



Marc


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[DNG] Jessie to Ascii upgrade

2020-11-14 Thread Fred

Hello,

I want to upgrade from Debian Jessie to Devuan.  Apparently all I need 
to do is change the sources list and do a dist-upgrade.


Is this likely to go smoothly?  If there are any problems I would 
probably not have Internet to ask for help.


How does the upgrade get rid of systemd and everything associated with 
it?  Or how does one do that?


Best regards,
Fred
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