Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt

[Simon Walter]

I wish that the first three emails had their replies intact and were in
the reply after quote style. Then I would print it out and frame it.
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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

[fsmithred via Dng]

On 2/2/21 7:48 PM, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 04:57:35PM +0100, rad via Dng wrote:
>> The programm calls  refrectinstaller-wrapper.sh
> 
> OK, it sounds like you're using Refracta, which is another
> distribution based on devuan.
> 
>>
>> so what program should i start from the USB-stick ?

Sorry I tuned into this so late. I would guess that rad is using the
desktop-live iso, which does use refractainstaller.

rad, what partition layout did you want? What do you mean by "private
partition"?

The installer on the live isos just copies the running live system to hard
drive. Take a look at the install guide (also on the desktop). There's a
help page you can access from inside the installer.

You can have a separate /home or /boot, but if you want to re-use an old
/home partition, you must do that manually after the install.

fsmithred
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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

[Gregory Nowak via Dng]

On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 04:57:35PM +0100, rad via Dng wrote:
> I have no problem with a curses version but i suspect that i use the wrong
> program. Sometimes I fill blind.
> The programm calls  refrectinstaller-wrapper.sh

OK, it sounds like you're using Refracta, which is another
distribution based on devuan.

> 
> so what program should i start from the USB-stick ?

Which ever one you would like. If you want to use Refracta, that's
fine. I believe the maintainer of Refracta is on this list, and so are
other Refracta users hopefully as well. For reference, it sounded to
me like you were using the devuan installer such as:



This can be booted from a USB flash drive also, and this is what I
use. Again, I'm not trying to dissuade you from using Refracta if that
is what you want to use. This illustrates the importance of describing
exactly what someone is using, and what documentation they are
following.

Greg


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Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt

[Steve Litt]

On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 17:54:20 -0800
Rick Moen  wrote:

> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> 
> > Someone did, as I expect you already know.  Here's Eric Stephen
> > Raymond's version:
> > 
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html  
> 
> All I can say is that Eric Steven Raymond's version would be _much_
> better with a co-author credited right at the top of the essay who
> is often hilariously forgotten in online mentions of the piece.  ;->

It *does* list a co-author. Funny thing is, the co-author's name seems
kinda familiar, and I'm wondering where I heard his name before.

SteveT

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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

[rad via Dng]

> Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. Februar 2021 um 00:13 Uhr
> Von: "Gregory Nowak" 
> An: radisso...@gmx.de, dng@lists.dyne.org
> Betreff: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
>
> Radisson, unless you have a specific reason to reply to me directly,
> please reply to the list instead. Having the entire group see the
> discussion means that maybe others can help you where I'm not able
> to. Redirecting back to the list.
>
it was not intentionaly, i just did reply,


>
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 05:10:34PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 01. Februar 2021 um 03:33 Uhr
> > > Von: "Gregory Nowak" 
> > > An: radisso...@gmx.de, dng@lists.dyne.org
> > > Betreff: Re: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> > >
> > > Redirecting back to the list.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 04:34:56PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2021 um 04:09 Uhr
> > > > > Von: "Gregory Nowak via Dng" 
> > > > > An: "Radisson via Dng" 
> > > > > Betreff: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:15:53PM +0100, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> > > > > > Hello list,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can tell you that using the text based installer for Beowulf, I was
> > > > > able to do manual partitioning without problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're able to boot into the installed system, then /etc/fstab was
> > > > > indeed created. At least some parts of the system will end up being
> > > > > installed into /.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You got me wrong,  i started the
> > > > installer. i successfully created the whole partitioning but the whole 
> > > > setup
> > > > was ignored the installer used / and installed everything there.
> > >
> > > OK, I'll repeat back what you said as far as I understand it. You said you
> > > used the installer to create a custom partitioning scheme, but the
> > > installer ignored your partitioning scheme, and installed the entire
> > > system into /, instead of mounting various partitions in the
> > > appropriate mount points under /. Correct? If yes, then a /etc/fstab
> > > must still have been created,
> >
> > It has been but only with / and swap
> >
> > else the system wouldn't boot; it just
> > > wasn't the /etc/fstab you wanted. What I said is still correct. I was
> > > able to use the devuan 3.0 text installer to create a custom
> > > partitioning scheme inside the installer, and have various directories
> > > placed in the partitions I wanted.
> >
> > the point "text installer" make me nervios
> >
>
> That's understandable, not everyone likes a purely text interface,
> where what you want to do is chosen by typing numbers from a list. I
> mention the text installer only because that is the one which I have
> used, so can't speak to any of the GUI versions.

I have no problem with a curses version but i suspect that i use the wrong
program. Sometimes I fill blind.
The programm calls  refrectinstaller-wrapper.sh

so what program should i start from the USB-stick ?


>
> > > You still haven't explained exactly what you did, or which docs you
> > > followed, so confirming that what you want to do is possible at least
> > > in the text installer for devuan 3.0 is the best I can do to help you
> > > at this point. When you create a partition in the installer, you need
> > > to be sure to specify how the partition is to be used (E.G. swap,
> > > ext4), and where it is to be mounted in the target directory tree.
> > >
> >
> > I used the installer from Beowulf image (copied to usb-stick), is there 
> > anything else ?
> >
> > I did:
> > -boot from Stick -> gfx comes up
> > -choose icon  install devuan
> > -- after showing me the partitions, i run gparted
> > and end up with a single partition install
> >
> > were is the wrong turn ?
>
> I haven't used the graphical Beowulf installer, and I use partman
> instead of gparted during the install, so this is as far as I can help
> you. Hopefully others more familiar with the process you're using will
> be able to help you figure out how to create a custom partitioning
> scheme with gparted.
>
> Greg
>
> >
> >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > > I guess i missed a point but i followed the docs so far.
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this expected or did i miss an option somewhere ??
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Without knowing exactly what you did, what exactly happened, and what 
> > > > > you were
> > > > > expecting to happen, that's as far as I can help you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [DNG] info request

[Adam Sampson via Dng]

o1bigtenor via Dng  writes:

> [...] with a 5.10.2 kernel (and all of the releases from 5.4.0.4) I
> get opportunities to practice my system setup because with increasing
> rapidity my monitoros won't move off of sleep.

If you're using amdgpu, it's a kernel problem that was fixed in later
5.10 stable versions. I was seeing the same thing with early 5.10
kernels, but I've had no trouble since 5.10.9.

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[DNG] info request

[o1bigtenor via Dng]

Greetings

I understand that Devan is NOT debian!
I'm trying to find a way of letting Debian know that in their present
push to get testing into a freeze that they have some huge pita s
happening.

To briefly elucidate - - - with a 5.10.2 kernel (and all of the
releases from 5.4.0.4) I get opportunities to practice my system setup
because with increasing rapidity my monitoros won't move off of sleep.

Any suggestions where I could file this?
Filing a bug would be appropriate - - - - but then where - - - is it
the graphics driver, is it the kernel is it the screensaver, is it
that I'm running 2 graphics cards and 5 monitors or is there some
conjunction of some number of these that becomes a witches brew - - -
- I haven't been able to figure out the problem!

Thanking any and all for possible reporting locations!!!

Regards
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