Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?
On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 07:57:21PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Greg, > > Have you not seen this thread on the forum? Because it is not a community > project, it is presented differently that the official devuan isos. > > Location is: Index » ARM Builds » Installer images for armel, armhf and > ppc64 need testing > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3351 > > There is a link to that thread on the Download page of the website. > > golinux Yes, I saw that thread. However, the links point to pkgmaster.devuan.org. The first mention of arm-files.devuan.org is in a post by garyz.dev1, which is quite a way down in the discussion. The readme file with the login credentials for the embedded images doesn't seem to be anywhere on pkgmaster.devuan.org as far as I can tell. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?
On 2021-04-02 19:26, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 03:24:30PM +0200, Joril via Dng wrote: Strange, I can see a https://arm-files.devuan.org/README.txt, it contains this annotation: Beowulf 3.0.0 credentials: devuan:'devuan' root :'toor' Beowulf 3.1.0 credentials (rpi-img-builder based): pi:'board' (with passwordless SUDO :-O ) ___ When reading the first post in this thread, I heard "files.devuan.org" instead of "arm-files.devuan.org" and went looking in the former. What I would like to know is where is arm-files.devuan.org referenced off of the main www.devuan.org site? The only references there I noticed about embedded devices go to the forum, and a quick look at the forum pages didn't make it obvious to me that arm-files.devuan.org exists. Perhaps a reference to arm-files.devuan.org should be made more prominent on www.devuan.org if it already exists there? Thanks. Greg Greg, Have you not seen this thread on the forum? Because it is not a community project, it is presented differently that the official devuan isos. Location is: Index » ARM Builds » Installer images for armel, armhf and ppc64 need testing https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3351 There is a link to that thread on the Download page of the website. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 03:24:30PM +0200, Joril via Dng wrote: > Strange, I can see a https://arm-files.devuan.org/README.txt, it contains > this annotation: > > Beowulf 3.0.0 credentials: > devuan:'devuan' > root :'toor' > > Beowulf 3.1.0 credentials (rpi-img-builder based): > pi:'board' (with passwordless SUDO :-O ) > ___ When reading the first post in this thread, I heard "files.devuan.org" instead of "arm-files.devuan.org" and went looking in the former. What I would like to know is where is arm-files.devuan.org referenced off of the main www.devuan.org site? The only references there I noticed about embedded devices go to the forum, and a quick look at the forum pages didn't make it obvious to me that arm-files.devuan.org exists. Perhaps a reference to arm-files.devuan.org should be made more prominent on www.devuan.org if it already exists there? Thanks. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code
On 02/04/2021 19:46, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 08:39:30AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Didier Kryn said on Wed, 31 Mar 2021 12:07:50 +0200 cancel-culture Please don't use that phrase, unless you're the second coming of Rush Limbaugh. It's an ugly, Foxnews/right wing radio epithet for the time-honored practice of boycotting, perhaps the last tool of power for the average citizen. This bears some discussion. This notion of "cancelling" someone is different. It's aimed at an individual, and it generally seeks to do them harm - see them out of a job, for instance, beyond public humiliation. aka "justice by the mob" It's worth using the phrase "cancel culture" because it's very different from a boycott Yup, although beyond the whole "moral person" or "physical person" difference, an individual boycotting a company will always be on the weak side, hence it can be seen as exercising some rights. On a case of a mob against target individual, the mob will always be on the strong side. This is radically opposed. However, that is not even enough to explain it. The most worrysome aspect of cancel-culture is the aspects you quoted earlier. Victims (real, alleged or even just remotely feeling so) claim the right to fight back on a personal level, therefore becoming bullies. - There is public humiliation. - The target shall lose his/her job. - Beyond work, (s)he shall be barred from having a normal life anymore, getting "tagged" as bad anywhere, including in any casual or leisure location, having his/her reputation destroyed. - (S)He must "pay the price", although his/her wrongdoing is not clearly established and/or debatable and "the price" to pay is limitless. In a way, this is the same logic as "lock him/her up": prison is the final destination. You switch in a binary logic from white to black, and the stain is eternal. No rehabilitation, only pain until you withdraw, and eventually you die. Cancel-culture is such a prison without walls. Once you're targeted, you bear the stain for life. Anyone engaging in that is blinded by hatred, fear and/or pain. So, there's the problem. What are possible answers? Justice. Final sentence (destroying a life for good) without cause (basing oneself on circumstantial evidence, if any), without debate nor cross-examination (not all parties are heard nor tried equally), without an exit (pre-determined sentence). That is the exact opposite of any sound juridical system. The answer has always been the same: forbidding harassment and trial by a mob, making people seeking justice to bring any claim in a judicial system, which will deal with any legal offence swiftly, according to a set of laws which content is known and pre-determined at the moment of the trial. Justice. Bernard (Beer) Rosset https://rosset.net/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Request for assistance in dealing with a nouveau problem
Hi, On 2/4/21 12:54, o1bigtenor wrote: Please - - - - if only you had read all the information that was included in the original post it would be quite clear why this set of instructions is NOT useful. Would you please go back and read what is there? I did it yesterday night and, according to the given information, you didn't extract the content: root@debianbase:/tmp/nouveau/nvidia# ls extract_firmware.py NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.141.run root@debianbase:/tmp/nouveau/nvidia# python3 extract_firmware.py Among the possibilities i could contemplate, it wasn't really clear to me whether or not you forgot to copy and paste the missing intermediate step: sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run --extract-only and i said: "it seems that the nvidia subdirectory is not found". If you felt offended by my question "didn't he/she?", my intention was far from it. Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 08:39:30AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Didier Kryn said on Wed, 31 Mar 2021 12:07:50 +0200 > > > cancel-culture > > Please don't use that phrase, unless you're the second coming of Rush > Limbaugh. It's an ugly, Foxnews/right wing radio epithet for the > time-honored practice of boycotting, perhaps the last tool of power for > the average citizen. This bears some discussion. In a boycott, I choose to not deal with a company (usually) and that's it. I might publicise that I'm boycotting a place and why, but that's the extent of it. (To that end, my family boycotts Amazon and Wal-Mart.) This notion of "cancelling" someone is different. It's aimed at an individual, and it generally seeks to do them harm - see them out of a job, for instance, beyond public humiliation. I don't have a settled opinion about this. I've certainly thought "serves them right" when someone who harms other people is called out, but what's different here is that it's someone I respect, and a situation where I don't think the evidence presented against him holds up. This is someone who has dedicated his life to making the world a better place in a particular way, not, by comparison, an elected official mocking his electorate as they suffer and freeze to death (literally) because the climate disaster is catching up to us. And yet, I have to recognize that the people carrying the torches and pitchforks feel like RMS has done harm various ways. They think this, and they take the opinions and records as being valid, even if I can look at most of the same "evidence" and point out holes and context that utterly changes its character. It's worth using the phrase "cancel culture" because it's very different from a boycott, and we need to understand what it does, and how, and if there are better options for redressing grievances and finding justice. And I don't know how to do this. It'd be easy if everyone cared about people and we took care of each other, if people didn't victimize each other, but that's not yet the world we live in. I think "cancel culture" is the result of someone speaking up and saying "this cannot stand" and other people taking up the cry, but it's awfully close to mob justice. But if we don't want mob justice, we need a judiciary. We don't have one set up to rule on moral or ethical stances. We hardly prosecute white-collar or corporate crime at all, nowadays. So, there's the problem. What are possible answers? -- Mason Loring Bliss ma...@blisses.orgEwige Blumenkraft! (if awake 'sleep (aref #(sleep dream) (random 2))) -- Hamlet, Act III, Scene I signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] minor panic with host reboot
> > On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 08:13:45 -0600 > "Chris Richmond" wrote: > >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 07:53:34 +0200 >> From: tito >> To: dng@lists.dyne.org >> Subject: Re: [DNG] minor panic with host reboot >> Message-ID: <20210401075334.6573abb6@devuan> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >>> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 10:29:52 +1100 >>> wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >>> >>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/molly-guard >>> https://packages.debian.org/sid/admin/molly-guard >> >> I looked at what this is, and it makes sense, but wouldn't have >> helped unless it also detects an xterm in a VNC session. The why it >> rebooted is obvious (keyboard chair interface failure), it's the what >> happened after that didn’t make sense. FWIW, you can configure it to always ask for the hostname, even if no SSH session is detected. This would cause it to trigger on your local xterm running inside the VNC session. The man page mentions setting this option in /etc/molly-guard/rc. Not sure if that’s what you had in mind? The alternative (default value) is to only ask if it detects running inside a SSH session. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Request for assistance in dealing with a nouveau problem
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:43 PM aitor wrote: > > On 2/4/21 0:16, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > You literally need to execute > > NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run --extract-only > > which will extract itself creating the subdirectory > > Didn't he/she? All the steps are specified in the website: > > $ mkdir /tmp/nouveau > $ cd /tmp/nouveau > $ wget https://raw.github.com/envytools/firmware/master/extract_firmware.py > $ wget > http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/325.15/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-325.15.run > $ sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-325.15.run --extract-only > $ python2 extract_firmware.py # this script is for python 2 only > # mkdir /lib/firmware/nouveau > # cp -d nv* vuc-* /lib/firmware/nouveau/ > Please - - - - if only you had read all the information that was included in the original post it would be quite clear why this set of instructions is NOT useful. Would you please go back and read what is there? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FSF, RMS and a danger to almost all GPL code
Le 01/04/2021 à 14:39, Steve Litt a écrit : > Didier Kryn said on Wed, 31 Mar 2021 12:07:50 +0200 > >> cancel-culture > Please don't use that phrase, unless you're the second coming of Rush > Limbaugh. It's an ugly, Foxnews/right wing radio epithet for the > time-honored practice of boycotting, perhaps the last tool of power for > the average citizen. It's a trope. Sorry Steve if you were shocked. I've never watched Foxnews nor the person you name and whose name I read for the first time. I don't live in the US but the word "cancel culture" has spread over the world and is seen in my country as a fashion which I don't think I need to describe here. I was always a leftist, which means in my country far more left that in yours. I think social networks favour the trends of humans to form groups of activists against whatever immorality, supposed or real, and collectively harrass the people they declare guilty. When this happens against living people, wether unknown or famous, it is just called harrasment; when it addresses dead celebrities, we call it by the word you disapprove. My position in the current debate about RMS is evolving and balancing. -- Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
