Re: [DNG] Viewing file content (was Re: system administration of non-systemd distros and releases)

2021-11-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: >> On 27 Nov 2021, at 14:24, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> Looking at the lesspipe manual page[1] (don't have less installed ;-), >> it seems that it doesn't support on-the-fly encoding switching but as >> far as dealing with compressed files, I guess there is

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-27 Thread Steve Litt
goli...@devuan.org said on Sat, 27 Nov 2021 15:39:53 -0600 >Just have to repost this prescient rant about systemd from 2014. My >all time fav! >http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1408.1/02496.html Sounds like 2014 alright! That's just how I remember 2014 discussions sounding. The prece

Re: [DNG] Wanting to set up an email system

2021-11-27 Thread terryc
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 09:17:45 -0600 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Started way back when when I got to the web full-time using webmail. > Haven't ever setup an email system and AIUI it is a system - - - > there are a lot of parts that have to work together to have > everything working

Re: [DNG] Wanting to set up an email system

2021-11-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 05:12:59AM +1000, onefang wrote: > If you mean email server as well as client, on the server side I picked > courier, coz it supplise most of the bits, which all work well together. > Every other email server solution means gleuing together various bits > from different dev

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-27 Thread golinux
On 2021-11-27 18:27, tito via Dng wrote: On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 15:39:53 -0600 goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2021-11-27 15:00, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 25/11/2021 22:57, Steve Litt wrote: >> Like I said in 2014, >> they won't quit until the cat command requires systemd. > > They won't stop until Sy

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-27 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 15:39:53 -0600 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2021-11-27 15:00, Mark Rousell wrote: > > On 25/11/2021 22:57, Steve Litt wrote: > >> Like I said in 2014, > >> they won't quit until the cat command requires systemd. > > > > They won't stop until SystemD is in the kernel, such th

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-27 Thread golinux
On 2021-11-27 15:00, Mark Rousell wrote: On 25/11/2021 22:57, Steve Litt wrote: Like I said in 2014, they won't quit until the cat command requires systemd. They won't stop until SystemD is in the kernel, such that Linux unavoidably is SystemD. Just have to repost this prescient rant about

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-27 Thread Mark Rousell
On 25/11/2021 22:57, Steve Litt wrote: > Like I said in 2014, > they won't quit until the cat command requires systemd. They won't stop until SystemD is in the kernel, such that Linux unavoidably is SystemD. -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-27 Thread Mark Rousell
On 26/11/2021 16:55, Peter Duffy wrote: > Maybe the problem with the car analogy is that it's only really > applicable to end-user computers - desktops and laptops. For servers, > the analogy would need to be extended to buses and HGVs. In those cases, > where many people rely on the availability a

Re: [DNG] Report bugs

2021-11-27 Thread Alexis PM via Dng
https://bugs.devuan.org/Reporting.html remember that bugs in unforked packages (those that Devuan uses directly from Debian) should usually be reported to Debian's BTS unless you think you have found a Devuan specific problem. Sometimes it is necessary to send a copy of a bug report to somewhe

Re: [DNG] Wanting to set up an email system

2021-11-27 Thread onefang
On 2021-11-27 09:17:45, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: >Greetings >Started way back when when I got to the web full-time using webmail.  >Haven't ever setup an email system and AIUI it is a system - - - there are >a lot of parts that have to work together to have everything working >

Re: [DNG] Report bugs

2021-11-27 Thread Syeed Ali
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 19:14:25 +0100 viverna via Dng wrote: > I have found a bug in dialog. > How do I report a bug? Devuan, debian or to the author of the > software? Likely to the author. Two email addresses are listed here: https://invisible-island.net/dialog/#bugs ___

[DNG] Report bugs

2021-11-27 Thread viverna via Dng
I have found a bug in dialog. How do I report a bug? Devuan, debian or to the author of the software? -- _ < Viverna > - \^/^ \ / \ // \ \ |\___/| / \// .\ \ /0 0 \__ /// | \ \

Re: [DNG] Wanting to set up an email system

2021-11-27 Thread Steve Litt
o1bigtenor via Dng said on Sat, 27 Nov 2021 09:17:45 -0600 >Greetings > >Started way back when when I got to the web full-time using webmail. >Haven't ever setup an email system and AIUI it is a system - - - there >are a lot of parts that have to work together to have everything >working well. > >

[DNG] Wanting to set up an email system

2021-11-27 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings Started way back when when I got to the web full-time using webmail. Haven't ever setup an email system and AIUI it is a system - - - there are a lot of parts that have to work together to have everything working well. A mentor, now deceased, recommended using Claws but even that's not

[DNG] [OT] Debian 10 init now listens as portmapper

2021-11-27 Thread hal
I was logged into a Debian 10 system this morning and was looking to see if an Areca console was running. Noticed "init" listening on port 111 where RPC used to be. Seems like a dangerous move but at this point, not surprised. tcp6 0 0 :::111 :::*

Re: [DNG] Viewing file content (was Re: system administration of non-systemd distros and releases)

2021-11-27 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 27 Nov 2021, at 14:24, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > Looking at the lesspipe manual page[1] (don't have less installed ;-), > it seems that it doesn't support on-the-fly encoding switching but as > far as dealing with compressed files, I guess there is no or not much > difference. > > [1]: h

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-27 Thread Syeed Ali
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 21:30:38 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Peter Duffy said on Fri, 26 Nov 2021 11:08:27 + > > >It's a bit like the charlatans and fake doctors in past centuries. > >They'd invent an illness, and then claim to have a remedy for it: > > > >https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/marthamble