[DNG] ..no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here

2015-12-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
devuan.org/ ? ..I have a partial (source,amd64,i386,i386-hurd) lan Debian mirror (bad isp link) and I understand some packages are identical over here at Devuan, so I guess I can play mirror guineapig here. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar be

Re: [DNG] Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities

2016-01-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
inter.net/blog/projects/stateless.html ...which is also © Lennart Poettering. Let them systemd guys prove us wrong in the _long_ run. ;o) ..in the short term, I'm pleasantly surprised to see more traffic here in devuan-* than in debian-user. ;oD -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karl

Re: [DNG] Devuan Weekly News LX (Errata)

2016-01-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:53:00 +, hellekin wrote in message <568aa36c.9010...@dyne.org>: > On 01/04/2016 03:07 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >> > >> https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-news/wikis/past-issues/volume-03/issue-060 > >> > >> tip

Re: [DNG] Devuan Weekly News LX

2016-01-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
oLUG, and the discussion that followed turns out to be instructive > for managing mount points. Teodoro Santoni's comments provide [useful > tips about UUID's][2], Arnt Karlsen talked about the [purpose of ..er, I did not, I asked the (I believe timely) question "..where did the "/med

Re: [DNG] FW: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 05:50:15 -0500, Mitt wrote in message

Re: [DNG] OT: Desktop recording

2016-01-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
insert notes/balloons, pause for user > interaction, and/or mix the video down into different formats? > > [1] http://www.debugmode.com/wink/ > [2] http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of

Re: [DNG] Don't feed the troll

2015-12-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ithout Don > Armstrong. ..can his subscriptions be auto-rejected? > SteveT > > Steve Litt > November 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques > of the Successful Technologist > http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regar

Re: [DNG] Apply Rainer's patch to netman.

2015-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
e following way: > > $ git diff --relative > ../aitor_czr-20.2.2015.patch ...or $ git diff --relative > ../aitor_czr-$(date +%FT%T-%Z).patch oor ;o) $ git diff --relative > \ ../aitor_czr-$(git log |head -n1 |cut -d" &q

Re: [DNG] I've got the automounter running

2015-12-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
iots from yanking the removables, while we try finish _all_ the writing to try prepare the media for the inevitable yank, and only then stop the blinky lights and show the "Finished writing to disk, you may now safely remove the disk. Ok." etc eye candy. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = wi

Re: [DNG] nmap in Debian Wheezy

2015-12-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:01:55 -0300, Emiliano wrote in message <CAE0k5CCnHo3w8s0JwObifzqqu2YRZ+1Ke3Ct4yiN8s=oppz...@mail.gmail.com>: > Sorry, I forgot to mention that this system runs Wheezy. ..is Squeeze the last known good Debian? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arn

Re: [DNG] Apply Rainer's patch to netman.

2015-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:52:49 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20151220175249.6d049...@nb6.lan>: > On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:42:47 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message > <5676cc77.9030...@gnuinos.org>: > > > > > Hi Arnt, > > > > > > On 12/20/

Re: [DNG] Apply Rainer's patch to netman.

2015-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:42:47 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message <5676cc77.9030...@gnuinos.org>: > > Hi Arnt, > > > On 12/20/2015 02:21 PM, Arnt Karlsen <a...@iaksess.no> wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 13:02:28 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message > > <56

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock's Twitter hijacked?

2015-12-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
o improved relevance: https://translate.google.com/ ;o) > ..are we trigger happy today; the key to improved relevance: https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/tvilsomme%20ting%0Aforskjellige%20tvilsomme%20ting%0Adenne%20tvilsomme%20planen -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock's Twitter hijacked?

2015-12-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hum, ..have I seen this before?: http://dilbert.com/strip/2012-09-27 ..todays translation: http://heltnormalt.no/dilbert/2015/12/29 ..key to improved relevance: https://translate.google.com/ ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear

Re: [DNG] Our friendly community

2015-12-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
questions, e.g. how much disk space do I need to convert my Debian mirror to a Devuan mirror? ..I understand you have no rsync servers going, but e.g. debmirror works with http transport. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a numb

Re: [DNG] man init

2016-06-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t - process control initialization SYNOPSIS /sbin/init [ -a ] [ -s ] [ -b ] [ -z xxx ] [ 0123456Ss ] /sbin/telinit [ -t SECONDS ] [ 0123456sSQqabcUu ] /sbin/telinit [ -e VAR[=VAL] ] DESCRIPTION " -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a nu

Re: [DNG] How to acknowledge ported version of Open Source program?

2016-06-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
mmer guy (or gal) who then writes a program reimplementing those specified ideas. ..a different language reimplementation of the eriginal ideas will most probably require at least some manmade "new work" under copyright law. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Kar

Re: [DNG] resolved

2016-06-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
, either way, you do not wanna have a cranky cranked up nuke in your laptop. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and

Re: [DNG] How to acknowledge ported version of Open Source program?

2016-06-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
hy you _can_ write your own program as a drop-in replacement to the original C program you once thought of to try port. ..to protect ideas, you need to patent them, which may be done in combinations with copyright protections and contractual terms in e.g. any canned EULA worm pit combination. -- ..

Re: [DNG] Caching binary .deb packages

2016-06-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
packages.devuan.org? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] secure boot

2016-06-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
development and support costs. This would be the > > case even with no underhanded policies, and know that "no > > underhanded policies" goes strictly against Microsoft volume > > licensing policy. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a

Re: [DNG] Killing background processes on logout [was Re: resolved]

2016-06-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
suppose I should've said 'operators' or 'developers' > rather than 'users'. ..say 'operators' and||or||and/or 'developers', depending on context. > I really need to work harder at getting myself up to speed so I can > actually be 'useful' in this ... > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind R

Re: [DNG] Pulseaudio ...

2016-05-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
are#Sound_servers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_server ..why not try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JACK_Audio_Connection_Kit on ditching PulseAudio? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... S

Re: [DNG] postgres

2016-05-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
portbug postgres ". ..we have reportbug set up to devuan.org and not debian.org? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best

[DNG] ..another new(?) step towards Debian systemd: linux-image-4.6.0-1[-rt]-amd-signed, with MSTF keys...

2016-06-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
really need to stop relying on untrustworthy people. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case

Re: [DNG] Shim

2016-06-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
re you ok with them viewing you as a crack head conspiracy theorist until they know, or get get first hand experience the hard way themselves? ..good luck, you'll need it! -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ug-fix build coming out of git that will need guinea pigs. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2016 17:15:54 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160530151554.GA19164@reflex>: > > > dear Arnt, > > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..this far I'm only aware of political, military, monetary etc > > power/might reasons why th

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2016 20:15:23 +0100, Antonio wrote in message

[DNG] ..weird new zzz-dist on Debian mirrors, to defeat us?, Fw: zzz-dist

2016-05-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
.@debian.org> > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng

[DNG] ..setting up my own lan Devuan mirror, was: ..is there a way to block bad mirrors?

2016-06-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:30:58 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160601113058.GA8132@reflex>: > On Wed, 01 Jun 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..is there a way to block out bad devuan mirrors? > > I'm having trouble getting a few packages out of > > ftp.acc.um

[DNG] ..is there a way to block bad mirrors?

2016-06-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
able to connect to ftp.acc.umu.se:http: [IP:130.239.18.173 80]", which denies me mariadb-test-data, python-matplotlib-data, python-numpy-doc, selektor, urweb-doc, urwed-mode and a bunch of libspring-*, which is why I prefer setting up my own devuan mirror. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Ki

Re: [DNG] ..is there a way to block bad mirrors?

2016-06-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists

Re: [DNG] ..weird new zzz-dist on Debian mirrors, to defeat us?, Fw: zzz-dist

2016-05-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 00:12:58 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20160531221258.GA9551@reflex>: > On Tue, 31 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..weird new zzz-dist is pushed out on Debian mirrors, > > to defeat our "merged" mirror scheme???, Fw: zzz-di

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

2016-05-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
it kills the graphics, keyboard and touch pad drivers. Ssh-ing in works, but the easiest fix is yank the power, do a fsck boot and then boot to the console and switch to kdm or wdm etc. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in hi

Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 29 May 2016 08:20:01 +0200, Edward wrote in message

Re: [DNG] apt-get upgrade does nothing

2016-05-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
atile' deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-updates main deb-src http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-updates main -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of

Re: [DNG] Mini init script written in Perl boots.

2016-06-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bi

Re: [DNG] a 'rounded' guide to devuan migration and minmalism

2016-01-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
be changed to remove > the part about adding the user to the disk group, as it somewhat > hurts security and isn't needed for mounting anyway. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
her side appears to need such political etc victories to compensate for the absence of their techological etc performance merit. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three:

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
pletely unique. Kinda like it > > actually. > > > > golinux > > IMO, netbarx is the best choice :) > > Aitor. ..it's immune to "netbarf"? ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
d into bricking itself e.g. by reading an "ad" flash movie off a web site and writing it into a new bad /sys/firmware/efi and then "try" a kexec reboot? Etc? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in

Re: [DNG] writable efi

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ald Trump's run for president will survive Debian. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. __

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
r. > > ..it's immune to "netbarf"? ;o) ..it is. ;o) ..I vote for netbarx. :o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in c

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
flavor a year ago, rather than todays Raspian Jessie. I have one of each ready for guinea pig service. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst c

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
d to write to /sys/firmware/efi/efivars should happen, the machine should first be taken off-line, backed-up etc out of production and into a maintenance mode, where mounting /sys/firmware/efi/efivars read-write, _may_ be warranted. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen .

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
o this UEFI mounted filesystem stuff, the user > probably doesn't | understand what half the things returned by mount > our, and uses a | command that supposedly achieves what he needs. > ` > > I hope you're a bit more careful when taking medical or legal advice. ...or finan

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 17, Issue 39

2016-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 22:09:44 +, KatolaZ wrote in message <20160207220944.gc...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 10:49:48PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > If it is inly a matter of recompiling for armhf with the

Re: [DNG] Are you still paranoid if you turned out to be right?

2016-02-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Debian archives aren't > searchable. Anyway, these three give you the feel for what I'm talking > about. ..you were too naïve and not nearly paranoid enough: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/NEWS ..our dear Lennart explained my Sid networking problems: ;o) https://www.phoronix

Re: [DNG] Enlightenment anyone? ;)

2016-02-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
evuan? It's Perrrsssonal now. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0

2016-01-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ystemd coups were neccessary, if systemd is any good, it should win on its technological merits and on its performance, and not on its banana republic politics. ..so either way, I guess we should try provide a viable non-systemd back-up infrastructu

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
al ..yeah, quite like groklaw.net and devuan... ;oD -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.

Re: [DNG] Jessie netboot alpha2 (AMD64)

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ave unchanged from Debian in Devuan? How do we do compared to https://www.debian.org/mirror/size ? ..I never got any response to my first question here: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20151217.015613.57a0b639.en.html -- ..med vennlig hilsen

[DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
nice big nasty pile of things they must fix yesterday, and then "help" them out... ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three:

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

2016-01-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
nt in time, it will be left standing and form part of case law. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. __

Re: [DNG] Jessie netboot alpha2 (AMD64)

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
nstall off a mini.iso in e.g. > http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/201507023%2Bdevuan/images/netboot/ > ??? > > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios al

Re: [DNG] Are my messages delivered?

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
is mail list bounces unsubscribing me. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mail

Re: [DNG] Jessie netboot alpha2 (AMD64)

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
s.devuan.org/alpha-iso-cd/ ..has anyone here tried innstall off a mini.iso in e.g. http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/201507023%2Bdevuan/images/netboot/ ??? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in hi

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t my last brand new computer in 1997. ;o) ) ..that way you can simply buy new gear with the cheapest possible disk and pour your money on good cpu, ram etc. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
AA commander mention "Geneva" explaining the ban on below-40mm grenades on personell to his gun crew as I passed by to pick up an AA target "drone" I had just landed. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ance

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ter type parties and ditto agencies. Even if Steve is all right on Karen, she's still a small fish in this game, if my Groklaw etc experience is worth anything. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
choice, > and it's not related to this mailing list. ..one of several problems with that approach, is you will miss e.g. warnings etc info on systemd sabotage on Devuan etc non-systemd distros and on our future clientele, e.g. newspapers, banks, etc. Not a worry this month though. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen

Re: [DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 14:05:02 +0100 (CET), Rainer wrote in message <alpine.LFD.2.00.1601301403050.7148@much-magic>: > On Fri, 29 Jan 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..as a first step, we should mimick qubes-os.org sans systemd > > and/or pc etc hardware, so we can s

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
an+%22what-provides%22 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+%22what-provides%22 -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _

Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0

2016-01-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
do in the mean time. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@l

Re: [DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 13:11:53 +, hellekin wrote in message <56ab6519.8080...@dyne.org>: > Arnt Karlsen: > > > > and: > > https://tails.boum.org/news/version_2.0/index.en.html > > > > ... > > > > Change to systemd as init s

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-02-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
hat bad to me - I'm about to start adding Wheezy LTS > repos to my systems. ..this would be the very best starting point for Devuan as a distro. > > But then I still have Squeeze and Lenny systems running (they aren't > broken ...) - don't think I have anything older than that ! -

Re: [DNG] Beware

2016-01-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
a > password. ..why did Debian kill ssh into localhost? Is su or sudo safer than ssh nowadays? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just

Re: [DNG] Beware

2016-01-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
2016-0728/ https://gist.github.com/PerceptionPointTeam/18b1e86d1c0f8531ff8f https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Linux-Kernel-2016-0-Day https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3448 -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
"good" design ideas, "binary [in the chemical warfare sense] poisons" etc tools to scuttle e.g. GNU, Debian etc Linux, e.g. by telling e.g. our dear Lennart tall stories about "How the War on Terror Desperately Needs Secret National Security Backdoors in Linux" etc.

Re: [DNG] Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 01:29:06 +0100, Wim wrote in message

Re: [DNG] Devuan Rpi2 Lxde

2016-03-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
hat aitor is rightfully doing. The > packages are already there, and there is no need to support another > port... ..this means Devuan is _not_ the answer for the millions of armv6+FP2/rpi0/1 users out there. Pity, we could have used them here. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards

Re: [DNG] Artistic decisions - keyboard mappings

2016-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
be able to reset the caps lock key. Check out man timeout. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _

Re: [DNG] ..booting an old Sid->Ceres past runlevel 1... no login joy

2016-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 May 2016 13:05:31 -0400, Boruch wrote in message <20160518170531.gk32...@e15-2016.optimum.net>: > On 2016-05-18 18:24, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > DNG, I'm still left with runlevel 1, the damned thin will only > > accept root's passwd on the console, I can start and

Re: [DNG] ..booting an old Sid->Ceres past runlevel 1... no login joy

2016-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 May 2016 19:23:27 +0200, Irrwahn wrote in message <48e882e7-9b75-2bb5-769f-a93c4126e...@freenet.de>: > On Wed, 18 May 2016 18:24:23 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [about booting a system after Debian\Sid to Devuan\Ceres transition] > > > ..now having thrown

[DNG] ..all joy now, was: ..booting an old Sid->Ceres past runlevel 1... no login joy

2016-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 18 May 2016 16:10:19 -0400, Boruch wrote in message <20160518201019.ga1...@e15-2016.optimum.net>: > On 2016-05-18 21:27, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 18 May 2016 13:05:31 -0400, Boruch wrote in message > > > Sounds to me like an issue with 'p

Re: [DNG] Artistic decisions - keyboard mappings

2016-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
gt; > > > setxkbmap -option caps:none > > Yes, and where should I put this command? ..and, can it be disabled or reset automagically after e.g. 30 seconds? Or on e.g. leaving the text editor briefly? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar

[DNG] ..booting an old Sid->Ceres past runlevel 1... no login joy

2016-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
machine so I can see /etc/rcS.d/ and /etc/rc2.d/ listings? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and

Re: [DNG] suspend / hibernate with KDE

2016-07-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 23:05:35 +0200, Adam wrote in message <20160725210535.gc15...@angband.pl>: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 07:39:58AM +0200, Klaus Fuerstberger wrote: > > Arnt Karlsen schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 00:18: > > > ..I'm on ascii with daemon-version: 0.9

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

2016-07-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
;o) > > computer' in Norwegian). > > Sorry, no. In Norwegian, that would be 'liten datamaskin'. ...which most Norwegians pronounce "leetn datamashin." ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his anc

Re: [DNG] suspend / hibernate with KDE

2016-07-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 07:39:58 +0200, Klaus wrote in message <5fcaf78f-839d-05dc-04ab-750e0d35b...@arcor.de>: > Arnt Karlsen schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 00:18: > > ..I'm on ascii with daemon-version: 0.99.4, and it's been stuck > > there for a few months, do I need

Re: [DNG] suspend / hibernate with KDE

2016-07-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
on ascii with daemon-version: 0.99.4, and it's been stuck there for a few months, do I need to downgrade or some such? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan Sticker Poll

2016-07-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
> hk > > [0]: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/issues/13 > ..I don't see "DEVUAN GNU/Linux forked from Debian SystemD/Linux", preferably on 2 lines. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his

Re: [DNG] A nice summary about what's bad about SystemD

2016-07-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ple? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

2016-07-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
..such glacially speedy change require and promotes wise changes, and allows democracy getting started quickly with imperfect constitutions like the anti-semitic one we had from 1814 to 1851. ..optional factcheck googlator: https://translate.google.com/ ;o) ..agai

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

2016-07-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
. ..can we use it (at least the name) to help people ditch systemd etc off their boxes? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, a

Re: [DNG] Building w/ gtk2 vs gtk3

2016-07-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
is "include everything unless it'd pull _really_ > fat dependencies, and even then the optional stuff should still be > packaged", but it depends on whom you package it for. Best to use > your best judgement. > > > Meow! -- ..med vennlig hi

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

2016-07-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:23:46 -0700, Rick wrote in message <20160727232346.gh10...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > ..re-running your tests now, do you still get the same results > > now, as back then when you first checked? > &

Re: [DNG] Why Debian 8 Pinning is (or isn't) pointless

2016-07-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ply on grounds of the known > facts of what's in the damned thing. > > Now, you guys presumably all have Linux systems. Why pose the > question? Why not just check, if you want to know? ..re-running your tests now, do you still get the same results now, as back then when you first chec

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

2016-08-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
on systemd, without that dependency instead." ..can we use it (at least the name) to help people ditch, er, upgrade systemd-shim away from their boxes? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in se

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
neat thing about grub, is its shell, once you get the menu, hit "e" and then the tab key twice, and play around to familiarize yourselves with how it works, e.g how it finds disks, files, and how you can boot into root's shell with e.g. "init=/bin/bash". -- ..med vennlig hilsen = wit

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
raded automatically. ...until a newer version can be aptitude etc upgrade'd in place... :o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:57:40 +0200, richard wrote in message <20160815125740.7d4b10cadae0ff71d3c9c...@lucassen.org>: > On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 10:13:24 +0200 > Arnt Karlsen <a...@iaksess.no> wrote: > > > > So I prefer *for the moment* > > > > > > wg

Re: [DNG] Bootloaders (was: SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs)

2016-08-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
keys are a terrible idea Updated: Redmond races to revoke Secure Boot policy http://go.reg.cx/tdml/c9288/57d49e7f/ffe47801/2n9H -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets

Re: [DNG] Bootloaders (was: SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs)

2016-08-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
* Linux security backfires: Flaw lets hackers inject malware into downloads, disrupt Tor users, etc Analysis: TCP networking code scores own goal http://go.reg.cx/tdml/c9288/57d49e7f/ffe47801/2nac -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a

Re: [DNG] vdev

2016-08-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
or vdev. I will test > eudev as well asap. ..eudev etc package link? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

2016-07-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t and start etc _whatever_ we want, in VMs, and also keep an open eye on what the fine systemd folks e.g. debian.org are scheming these days. ..nowadays I see Devuan falling apart exactly because Debian is falling apart, for details, run: ' how-can-i-help '. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind

Re: [DNG] with or without libsystemd0

2016-07-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
pine and gut feelings and whatever bits we do learn. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___

Re: [DNG] Mirroring Devuan

2016-07-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ough reprepro could gain some incomplete support for it. (I guess > there is some chance reprepro should already support retrieving > packages from other repositories in this format. Adding such packages > locally is likely not yet possible (though I guess one would have to > try to be

Re: [DNG] Cannot install Samba on Jessie

2016-07-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
repo temporarily to your sources.list to > get around the issue. > > Regards, > Daniel. ..as these conventions come and go these days, can you imagine Hillary giving the Donald, or Putin etc similar access to her email servers? ;oD Even temporarily? ;oD -- ..med vennlig hilsen =

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