Re: [DNG] Multiple resignations from Freenode's staff ??? New drama shake the opensource
Morning @ll, Στις 20/5/21 5:17 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: It appears that Mr. Lee's corporate entity "freenode Limited" has, at least for now, Registrant status for three Internet domains, freenode.net/org/com. Mr. Lee appears to have no other assets relevant to what until now was called Freenode and, probably by the end of Thursday, his time, his three Internet domains will point to no Internet infrastructure, as it will all disaffiliate and reconstitute itself as "LiberaChat" -- as is happening in real time as I write this. there are lawyers-threats involved and he took infra too. so it's not that simple/light as you're presenting it. announced here as well : https://twitter.com/freenodestaff what's most troublesome is that thousands of user data passed control without any info/consent.. to the crown prince - mt gox scammer(!) p.s. most of the "spelling" paradigms you wrote, are not like that.. but probably OT.. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Please don't imply this kind of equality: was Re: End of free open source software?
Στις 10/5/21 9:44 μ.μ., ο/η Steve Litt έγραψε: But trump doesn't rise to hitler's criminality. He didn't build death camps. surely, noone stands up to such "high" standards... except for similar dictators like stalin and lots of kings/feudarchs from earlier centuries... trump facts in comparison : - white supremacy BS, check - revoking immigrants rights, check. - locking up people/children in camps, check - storming parliament and then blaming antifascists, check. (also virus kills thousands, blames communists, check.) - plan to destroy planet (for profit), by letting oil buddies write policies, check. - use (social) media for usual BS propaganda (goebbels's wet dream..), check - friend (with benefits) with every dictator around the globe (eg. putin, kim, bolsonaro, erdogan). axis revived(?), check. - IBM contract, check. you're right though. he's not hitler. he goes by a different name. but not all atrocities in human history have been hitler's "privilege". and the above are not limited to trump either. potus's being the ones with the biggest ego/economy/gunz of our times, have most of these as part of their presidential routine... why i write these? 1) i'm human 2) i read books and like history very much. so i can learn from past mistakes. not reproduce or keep me/others silent when i see same sh*t happening all over.. a poem/quote comes in mind (random link) : https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/photo/quotation-from-martin-niemoeller 2c, d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] End of free open source software?
sorry, but this subject reads like some yellow-press, bringing end-of-the-world, out of an irrelevant wish? (=speculations, wishes and rumors) and it doesn't even mention FOSS anywhere... so, this all reads like BS (imho), not byuing it. 2c, d. Στις 9/5/21 9:33 π.μ., ο/η tito via Dng έγραψε: Hi to all, today while reading online my selection of international newspapers on the german www. faz.net I've found this little article which made my antennas vibrate, link is: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/reform-der-produkthaftung-verbraucher-sollen-vor-schaeden-durch-softwarefehler-geschuetzt-werden-17330921.html text in german is: Kunden sollen nach dem Willen der Verbraucherschutzministerkonferenz (VSMK) künftig besser vor Schäden durch Softwarefehler geschützt werden. Der Bund solle entsprechende Maßnahmen prüfen, sagte Schleswig-Holsteins Verbraucherschutzminister Claus Christian Claussen (CDU) nach dem Ende der Konferenz am Freitag. Zudem solle das Produkthaftungsrecht künftig auch digitale Schäden umfassen, darunter auch Datenverluste. Das Produkthaftungsgesetz basiere auf einer EU-Richtlinie von 1985 und sei angesichts des technischen Fortschritts nicht mehr zeitgemäß, so Claussen weiter - besonders mit Blick auf die wachsende Bedeutung von Software im Vergleich zu Hardware. Clausen sagte: „Wir wollen, dass ein verbraucherfreundliches, digitales Produkthaftungsrecht eingeführt wird.“ Das müsse vom Bund auf den Weg gebracht werden. Er sei zuversichtlich, dass die Verbraucherschutzminister-Konferenz den Bund bittet, entsprechende Vorschläge zu machen. Auch die Überwachung des Lebensmittelhandels muss nach Claussens Überzeugung an die aktuellen Entwicklungen angepasst werden. Lebensmittel würden zunehmen über das Internet bestellt und nach Hause geliefert. „Die klassischen Überwachungsmethoden greifen da natürlich nicht durch.“ Auch hier solle die Bundesregierung tätig werden und Rechtsgrundlagen schaffen. Rudimental google translation is: According to the wishes of the Conference of Consumer Protection Ministers (VSMK), customers should be better protected from damage caused by software errors in the future. The federal government should examine appropriate measures, said Schleswig-Holstein's consumer protection minister Claus Christian Claussen (CDU) after the end of the conference on Friday. In addition, product liability law should also include digital damage in the future, including data loss. According to Claussen, the product liability law is based on an EU directive from 1985 and is no longer up-to-date in view of technical progress - especially with a view to the growing importance of software compared to hardware. Clausen said: "We want consumer-friendly, digital product liability law to be introduced." That must be initiated by the federal government. He is confident that the consumer protection ministers' conference will ask the federal government to make appropriate proposals. According to Claussens, the monitoring of the food trade must also be adapted to current developments. Groceries are increasingly being ordered online and delivered to your home. “Of course, the classic monitoring methods do not work.” Here, too, the federal government should act and create a legal basis. So the first question that arises is: how could open source and free software projects ensure protection from damage up to data loss if actually even proprietary software comes with no warranty at all? For example Microsoft: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/windows-server/system-insights-eula DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY. THE SOFTWARE IS LICENSED “AS IS.” YOU BEAR THE RISK OF USING IT. MICROSOFT GIVES NO EXPRESS WARRANTIES, GUARANTEES, OR CONDITIONS. TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED UNDER APPLICABLE LAWS, MICROSOFT EXCLUDES ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, AND NON-INFRINGEMENT. Ciao, Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] network measurement
browser delays could be due to slow dns resolving.. i'd also suggest a local caching resolver as ralph suggested... do you ping anything while on these delays? if you're losing many packages, then i'd call ISP first to check dsl line.. some tools for network traffic : iftop, nload, nethogs, vnstat (all available in repos)... `netstat -tu` can show you all active network connections. i'm sure you can find more monitoring tools to get numbers, just by searching around... (eg. https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkMonitoring).. Στις 8/5/21 3:13 π.μ., ο/η Fred έγραψε: You can check the internet speed at www.speedtest.net also available as package : `apt install speedtest-cli` d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?
Στις 5/5/21 11:49 π.μ., ο/η Dr. Nikolaus Klepp έγραψε: And there's alway the possibillity of 3rd party software, e.g. Teams, Appimages, ... true... i misread original question, thought it was asking about devuan installation process and not already installed systems.. d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?
Στις 4/5/21 11:05 μ.μ., ο/η Arnt Karlsen έγραψε: So, there ya go: Avoid installing and running it. It's called system administration simple and powerful advice :) ..very true. Are there ways to trick common Devuan installs into automatically installing these bad things? (Other than tricking newbie etc users, sysadmins etc into doing it?) only thing i can think of, is by installing unverified firmware files from a removable drive during installation, mainly because i'm not sure how verifiable firmware blobs are... every other package (including a DE) is always installed from authenticated sources/mirrors (and mostly reproducible these days), so it should be assumed malware-free. 2c. d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera
Hey Olaf, Στις 22/4/21 11:55 π.μ., ο/η Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng έγραψε: Is debfoster smart(er) about asking what you want to keep? As in asking you about the packages that keep most of the other packages installed first (rather than going through potential removals alphabetically)? yes. debfoster only asks about installed packages : "Keep, Y/N" and keeps all dependant installed packages on "Y" , or adds another question about keeping dependencies on a "N". after first succesful run, you're only asked about newly installed packages from that moment on.. debfoster installation has no real dependencies (just already installed libc iirc) and it's just one command to run (=easy to remember). d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera
Στις 21/4/21 2:53 μ.μ., ο/η Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng έγραψε: The first time around, there will be quite a long list of packages that are candidates for removal. Even without a desktop environment installed the list can be several tens of packages. Look for the "top-level" kind of packages to `apt-mark manual`, things like task-xfce-desktop, so you don't have to add a long list of packages. You can `apt-mark auto` them later and fine-tune your list of manually installed packages. # This is how I whittle down the list of xserver-xorg-video-* packages # that I really need :-) i believe debfoster package can do the same thing (if i understand correctly)... 2c, d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] dns resolver
Στις 17/4/21 1:36 π.μ., ο/η Ralph Ronnquist via Dng έγραψε: In order to determine which process if any is listening on port 53 (the registered DNS port) do, as root, "netstat -lnp | grep -w 53", or if you prefer less typing "ss -lnp | grep -w 53". another one : `lsof -i :53` OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Dependency of KDE on lightdm or slim
Hey, Στις 13/4/21 4:50 μ.μ., ο/η tito via Dng έγραψε: On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 15:48:03 +0200 tito via Dng wrote: is there a reason task-kde-desktop 3.53 has a dependency on lightdm or slim? I ask because I have xfce and kde installed on beowulf and use sddm to manage the display and never experienced problems or missed funcionality. i'd suggest submitting a bug report/patch to devuan tasksel package.. sddm is already there, but commented out (don't know why)..: https://gitea.devuan.dev/devuan/tasksel/src/tag/devuan/3.54+devuan4/debian/control#L119 same in testing/ceres : https://gitea.devuan.dev/devuan/tasksel/src/tag/devuan/3.63+devuan1/debian/control#L174 d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] help: pyton script problem (after package upg?)
already reported : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=986637 d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list
Στις 29/3/21 6:22 π.μ., ο/η Gregory Nowak via Dng έγραψε: On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 09:04:11AM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:59 AM, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: <-snip-> Is there a way to do what I want, or do I need to download the correct package manually, and install with dpkg -i? You don't say what the 'correct' package is that you wish to install. Good point: http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/raspi/l/linux-raspi/linux-image-raspi_4.20.4-3_armhf.deb Greg this package is ascii (not beowulf), so you probably need : deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii raspi d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Dng Subscription results
Στις 26/3/21 3:59 μ.μ., ο/η Lars Noodén via Dng έγραψε: [1]https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe/dng the form[1] uses a (re)captcha. maybe you didn't complete the captcha, or have something like adblock on? for mailman it might also be possible to just send an email to dng-j...@lists.dyne.org d. [1] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)
Στις 10/3/21 4:30 μ.μ., ο/η Dimitris via Dng έγραψε: but performance-wise is terrible if you're in some low latency connection correction: "high latency". OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)
Στις 10/3/21 8:07 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: What I was talking about upthread was outsourcing one's recursive nameservice to OpenNIC's public recursive nameserver IPs, or any other stranger's. Because, well, why? Recursive service is dead-easy to do with one's local computing resources, protecting one's autonomy, security, performance, and privacy just that tiny bit more. i'm all in for diy, but my house dsl connection isn't helping. i agree, dns is very easy to setup, but performance-wise is terrible if you're in some low latency connection...it's slow and so are all queries... tried that in the past, it's not worth the "torture" of waiting seconds for a single query.. caching helps, but up to a point. that's why i'm forwarding to "trusted" no-log policy servers, with some sort of query encryption (dnscrypt,DoT,torDNS). 2c, d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] I kinda sorta got opennic DNS working
Στις 10/3/21 8:02 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: I'd really like to have both icann and opennic root servers in my root.hints. No, you don't. opennic.cache should include the standard TLD nameservers. https://wiki.opennic.org/tier_2_unbound eg. for opennic root servers : # dig . NS @161.97.219.84 > root.hints OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)
Στις 8/3/21 12:29 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: Leaving aside my being disappointed about people willingly outsourcing their recursive DNS to the second-nosiest company on the planet[1] +1.1.1.1 ... don't forget cloudflare bullies.. but i do forward local queries to opennic (w/ dnscrypt) and a couple more trusted sources.. eg. libreops.cc offer a public resolver and another DoT/DoH & i do also forward to tor-resolve occasionally... so, i would be interested to know, if there's a privacy issue with opennnic? leaving the overlord (=icann) aside, seems like a good idea to me.. d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music
Στις 5/3/21 5:02 μ.μ., ο/η Stephane Ascoet via Dng έγραψε: Found it: The home of Alekos Panagoulis :-) He wasn't as optimistic as you are about your politics even after the fall of papadopoulos i'm not an optimist at all, especially about politics..., but glad some people know of Alekos Panagoulis.. :) https://quotepark.com/fr/citations/1852675-alexandros-panagoulis-i-gave-life-to-the-walls-a-voice-i-gave-them-mor/ d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")
Στις 5/3/21 2:05 μ.μ., ο/η Steve Litt έγραψε: meet.jit.si works pretty darn well no it doesn't. at least not for everyone.. it's the most popular instance, and because of its popularity -i guess-, really lagging for most users. (doing volunteer support for some groups and noone wanted to try jitsi again, just because of meet.jit.si being so slow..). but there are hundreds of instances, so i don't really understand why everyone has to go to meet.jit.si.. a list of jitsi instances : https://framatalk.org/accueil/en/info d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music
Στις 4/3/21 7:20 μ.μ., ο/η Gabe Stanton via Dng έγραψε: posting a youtube link considering my stance against google. check out invidio.us, but even better help out with peertube, an alternative p2p platform ;-) OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music
hey, Στις 4/3/21 6:35 μ.μ., ο/η Stephane Ascoet via Dng έγραψε: When you say "local", do you mean "south America"? no, i mean a current EU member-state... even though its modern history is more similar to that of Chile and Argentina... And yes, I've forgotten to mention jamaican soul, Punk and so on. As for Africa, I better know 80s production but no doubt there has been good things in the 70s! check Mali music, i was astonished to first hear music samples from that country, years ago.. they have a "unique" guitar rhythm in general i like western africa tunes, better than any disco pop :) artists like Ali Farka Toure, Salif Keita, et others.. d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music
Στις 4/3/21 4:16 μ.μ., ο/η Stephane Ascoet via Dng έγραψε: And so I can't let Steve say something a little like "there was mainly Disco in the 70s". 70s gave us punk/punk rock, hard rock/heavy metal, 2nd wave ska, reggae and some of the greatest rock music ever... around the world, 70s produced good ethnic music, even in the -forgotten- african continent. and locally, after the us-dictated military dictatorship and its widespread censorship ended in the mid70s, there was a blooming artistic creation and great local music was produced.. :) in anycase disco would be last on my list of 70s music :P 2c. d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] GNUPGP Web of trust
haven't been in any online key signing parties, only a handful of physical ones so far (makes more sense seeing/confirming/trusting in person...). but all that, pre-covid... to work around the pandemic somehow, i'd probably start with git.devuan.org. lots of authenticated devuan devs and users there, with some gpg keys already available.. jitsi meetings/online pads as public links, break the whole "trust" thing.. how do you confirm any visitor there? a few more links : - cryptoparty.in is a helpful resource in organizing : https://www.cryptoparty.in/organize/howto - signing-party package (https://salsa.debian.org/signing-party-team/signing-party) , contains tools to assist in OpenGPG signing parties 2c, d OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fwd: Distribution upgrade issue
usually i prefer dist-upgrading apt and dpkg before everything else (right after `apt update`). always thought that newest apt is more compatible/tested with new releases.. never really looked/asked if that's true though (...), just a personal "habbit" over previous years of dist-upgrading :) -- problems described above sound like debian bugs though, maybe debian bug tracker has similar issues to look up.. 2c, d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] monit logwatch fail2ban
Στις 22/1/21 3:24 μ.μ., ο/η Erich Minderlein via Dng έγραψε: Now I miss the section fail2ban in the logwatch daily mail i don't use monit, just fail2ban and logwatch in some machines. never had any issues with it.. neither in debian nor devuan machines . usually set it up and forget about it.. still works though.. check that `Service = All` and also what service exclusions exist in either /etc/logwatch/logwatch.conf or /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf could also run manually, to check, eg : # logwatch --detail Med --range Yesterday --mailto your@email i'm guessing fail2ban is installed ok ( :D) if nothing works, maybe purging + reinstalling logwatch could help.. 2c, d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] AppArmor and TorBrowser
Στις 22/1/21 4:46 μ.μ., ο/η Haines Brown έγραψε: My messages log tells me that AppArmor status for torBrowser is apparmor="DENIED". "denied_mask="r"" looks like https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=976461 so, this is a problem for torbrowser-launcher really, which contains these 2 apparmor profiles. 2c, d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Finding installed packages, but from a backup
Στις 31/12/20 12:50 μ.μ., ο/η Antony Stone έγραψε: I have_all_ files from the machine I want to investigate, and I'm hoping that there's something in /var/cache/apt or /var/lib/dpkg which would allow me to get the same sort of list as the above commands produce. /var/lib/dpkg/status holds all installed packages. this might be helpful : https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/161866/how-to-recreate-var-lib-dpkg-status d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch
On 12/11/20 12:55 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Is there any way you can remove elogind with apt remove --purge elogind; with xorg installed? yes, running `apt purge elogind` in testing/ceres brings in consolekit instead. don't have a ascii/beowulf with xorg to test, but should be the same. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Let's Encrypt (was: snapd in Devuan? Dependency on systemd...)
On 12/4/20 3:56 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: "1989tiananmen". a different password worked. maybe it's too common? did you try adding special/more characters? So, hmm, how come a https connection gets intercepted by the Great Firewall? No hacking by the govt is involved here... if it doesn't get intercepted by some sort of sslstrip, maybe huawei end is to blame.. (could also be weak huawei encryption...). nsa has tapped into fb,google,m$,ibm,amazon,others?, so maybe chinese govt has done the same ... no "chinese snowden" out yet with proove.. :D 2c. d ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Firefox and its forks are losing the power of add-ons.
Hey, On 12/3/20 10:12 AM, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: Dear All, Lately, I am noticing Waterfox has lost the ability to display my If you have other solutions which I did not think of, please suggest them. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Waterfox was sold to an advertising company last year.. probably not a good example for firefox forks & adblocking.. :) don't know about adguard, but ublock origin works fine with : firefox, firefox-esr, icecat, basilisk, waterfox, seamonkey, torbrowser. some of those forks use latest versions of ublock origin, others use legacy versions : https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/blob/master/dist/README.md#firefox-legacy noscript has a "legacy" version too : https://noscript.net/getit http/socks proxy, i know squid proxy can be set for adblocking, but maybe too heavy on resources.. there's the option of adblocking domains in /etc/hosts, or with a local dns resolver. 2c, d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch
never learned anything at DW by looking statistics.. some guides and reviews were helpful... On 12/1/20 12:34 AM, Steve Litt wrote: fact that Redhat is #64 certainly not a fact. this is just a number without value. just a "Page Hit Rank"... if i was to guess, i'd say "serious corporate executives who use RH" (haha), don't visit DW so often as linux enthusiasts/hobbyists/distro testers (= community). fact is that DW seems to be on the init-freedom side, and that's a good thing... --- btw, MX linux comes with systemd (disabled), by default. 2c. d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] acx wireless support
Στις 27/11/20 1:54 μ.μ., ο/η Riccardo Mottola via Dng έγραψε: However I see no acx packages at all for Devuan! Any reason for that? not in Debian either.. https://wiki.debian.org/acx d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] clipboard manager: was: problematic mouse driver?
Στις 18/11/20 2:07 μ.μ., ο/η al3xu5 / dotcommon έγραψε: There is also ClipIt (forked from Parcellite, adding bugfixes and features). I do not use neither parcellite nor clipit, so do not know how it is good. was using clipit before, but clipit in debian/devuan nowadays (testing/ceres), just depends on diodon+zeitgeist-core and will probably be removed completely from repos in bullseye/chimaera.. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=909309#60 in anycase, i wouldn't add a ppa just to keep clipit (which was nice when working..), there are many alternatives around.. :) d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Clarification please
On 11/3/20 9:55 PM, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: For my part, I've stopped using unbound at all. I've been using BIND for many years, and it works just fine in this role too. depends on the role... bind as a local caching dns for PCs might be overhead. some people would want something minimal/light for recursion, not the whole bind "beast"... unbound is very light in that perspective, and also found dqcache (packaged) a pretty nice alternative. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail
On 10/25/20 10:07 PM, Dimitris via Dng wrote: but mailpile can be used instead correction: mailvelope (https://www.mailvelope.com/en) OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail
forgot to mention seamonkey (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/). -- also these days, webmail/nextcloud can be used as groupware too, with calendars/contacts included.. webmail gpg support is very rare (for a pretty good reason imo), but mailpile can be used instead... d On 10/25/20 9:56 AM, Dimitris T. via Dng wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hey, On Sun, 2020-10-25 at 15:25 +0900, Simon Walter wrote: I am particularly interested in a "groupware" type of solution. I am currently using SOGo. I am not stuck on that though. Things like CalDAV, CardDAV, etc., are useful for me as I like to keep my contacts and schedule synced across devices. from my experience, evolution can be a complete replacement for thunderbird as groupware... caldav/carddav/pgp are included by default. currently i use tbsync & other extensions in TB to sync with own nextcloud.. (only filelink extension isn't available in evolution) still recommending TB to clients/people though... cross OS compatibility and extremely simple moving/backing up TB profiles between systems being the main reason, and autoconfig accounts when supported by server, another... (like outlook does...). my 2c, d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEECppUFUF7C9a+eth/9jQAR3Vpa4YFAl+VL8kACgkQ9jQAR3Vp a4Zvfw//fFs4gc7BfIoLfiD8ye4aa+KvvjhMHzTvgv4rfrxunGI6KK1Ea4iMNFTR EXTvapoEkenL4DS76WSm/T9PWCbUTACRNIl1vMU7LpA2uzi5SyBe2MXdtxMnRTxz rIZ++/JPRClwZIo/qfgxecjAruoyuU3RWDeD1vXGxmp9tXHELKqKq0qRt/1NXJeb PJbkSyf1anZB7oBne2n97p/DPer+RBM4K0nMVGwM4ah4YQfIX+gZOFV27nW9OWxd LDAxoBUrzZVDXSAuL4J55lYbIVfi/dN/aye3KWugAGbFe4g05WIVh5BKIMJxYoIj MuybSvcjc2mYYx4jV7UA5rQSLf/5o+BhQMR9kTIhY3tnSMf8pTG90do87L41FEyd gmriOOtT09Wxb56d0vl0JJprwmu2nUIFvYmWZ/t60QY9eMSzZDi8WE39ktE8hTOb AAzAzBbXa9dDgSf1cj54LoQeZeoW09clpZDPXzEPNK8ynlH/kaqk00GRVipeQMBz eGT/8GN+e6dN978wsrAbd2MAX8Vf7MtP8di4gUtqt6zCwTIboZCjibk5ckJr7uJo kYSyGY2Jol6OLVLfYzgHWsXVdsZJEg7rng7me0noyi6KCtFHCdrT2TnnqfGX4b8+ 8ON1sKSXlkph9Xm6bDoWYfufcT6mjlwjVRuTS5fuUxg1YfXRlNA= =etPK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail
On 10/23/20 10:04 AM, Simon Walter wrote: Has any of you TB users (assuming there are any here} done this migration? How is the new shiny? Is it fine? Shall I forget about TB? Any suggestions of what could replace it? yes it works, but not without issues.. you need to install latest enigmail 2.2 (iirc) to get a migration manager from enigmail to native gpg in TB 78... lots of bugs, but can't find courage to submit any in debian... though, i'm still using it... daily.. [ posted sometime ago : https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3859 ] alternatives to TB, could be evolution or claws or .. (?) i keep profiles for those (mutt as well), since i want to be able to switch clients, when TB's in trouble.. ;-) d. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] OT: uBlock origin on Firefox: where's the data?
In my installation I found this: /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/6jlfbwix.default/extension-data/ublock0.sqlite that looks old behavior, there's a new storage location.. link : https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/issues/2925 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Complete system HDD encryption w/o LLVM.
On 10/1/20 2:30 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: - /etc? 'cause you might end up saving clear text passwords there ... Oh! I found one below/etc/wpa_supplicant/. There might be others. could also be clear-text : smtp account password(s), network-manager saves connection passwords there, system backup passwords, mysql also has debian-sys-maint password. and there are probably more clear-text examples in /etc/ apart from clear-text passwords, most encryption keys for daemons are stored in /etc. -/var? Eh, /var/spool/ may have mail and print jobs, at least for some time./var/log/ may contain sensitive stuff ... + /var/lib is mostly data.. mysql data, dns data, tor data, etc. /var/backups -- and yes, swap can be encrypted too, very very easily. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] X11: safe to remove?
iirc (seen it in buster upgrades), pinentry-gtk2 / pinentry-gnome3 bring in xauth package, which brings in X11. i would remove pinentry+xauth packages first, then X11 with autoremove - deborphan, and install pinentry-ncurses later, if needed.. 2c, d. On 9/29/20 4:57 AM, tempforever via Dng wrote: I manage a few remote servers that are running Devuan. Recently (last week) I noticed a couple updates to some x11 libraries. I went ahead and updated. But now, I'm wondering if it's okay to remove them altogether? I do not use any graphical user interface on them. I only connect via ssh, and issue text-only commands. I'm a little concerned about just removing these libraries though. The one in particular that I remembered updating was libx11-6. Apparently there is a bit of dependencies on it, and I don't want to break anything. On beowulf: # apt remove libx11-6 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: fontconfig-config fonts-dejavu-core libdrm-amdgpu1 libdrm-common libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2 libfontconfig1 libfontenc1 libgl1-mesa-dri libglapi-mesa libglvnd0 libice6 libllvm7 libpciaccess0 libsm6 libx11-data libx11-xcb1 libxau6 libxcb-dri2-0 libxcb-dri3-0 libxcb-glx0 libxcb-present0 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-sync1 libxcb1 libxdmcp6 libxshmfence1 x11-common Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them. The following packages will be REMOVED: libgl1 libglew2.1 libglu1-mesa libglx-mesa0 libglx0 libx11-6 libxaw7 libxcomposite1 libxcursor1 libxdamage1 libxext6 libxfixes3 libxft2 libxi6 libxinerama1 libxmu6 libxmuu1 libxpm4 libxrandr2 libxrender1 libxt6 libxtst6 libxv1 libxxf86dga1 libxxf86vm1 mesa-utils x11-utils x11-xserver-utils xauth 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 29 to remove and 0 not upgraded. After this operation, 8,081 kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n I don't think I should need any font or drm stuff. On ascii, I get a much longer list: # apt remove libx11-6 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: dconf-gsettings-backend dconf-service fontconfig fontconfig-config fonts-dejavu-core gconf-service gconf2-common glib-networking glib-networking-common glib-networking-services gsettings-desktop-schemas hicolor-icon-theme libatk1.0-0 libatk1.0-data libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libblas-common libblas3 libck-connector0 libcolord2 libcroco3 libcups2 libdatrie1 libdconf1 libdrm-amdgpu1 libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2 libepoxy0 libfontconfig1 libfontenc1 libgbm1 libgck-1-0 libgconf-2-4 libgcr-3-common libgcr-base-3-1 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common libgfortran3 libgl1-mesa-dri libglapi-mesa libgnome-keyring-common libgnome-keyring0 libgraphite2-3 libgtk-3-common libgtk2.0-common libgtop-2.0-10 libgtop2-common libharfbuzz0b libice6 libjbig0 libjpeg62-turbo libjson-glib-1.0-0 libjson-glib-1.0-common liblapack3 liblcms2-2 libllvm3.9 libpam-gnome-keyring libpango-1.0-0 libpangoft2-1.0-0 libpciaccess0 libpixman-1-0 libproxy1v5 libquadmath0 librest-0.7-0 libsecret-1-0 libsecret-common libsm6 libsoup-gnome2.4-1 libsoup2.4-1 libthai-data libthai0 libtiff5 libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libwayland-client0 libwayland-cursor0 libwayland-server0 libwebp6 libx11-data libx11-xcb1 libxau6 libxcb-dri2-0 libxcb-dri3-0 libxcb-glx0 libxcb-present0 libxcb-render0 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-sync1 libxcb-util0 libxcb-xfixes0 libxcb1 libxdmcp6 libxkbcommon0 libxshmfence1 p11-kit p11-kit-modules python-numpy x11-common xkb-data Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them. The following additional packages will be installed: elogind libelogind0 libpam-elogind pinentry-curses python-urwid wicd-curses Suggested packages: pinentry-doc Recommended packages: policykit-1 The following packages will be REMOVED: adwaita-icon-theme analog at-spi2-core consolekit dbus-x11 gconf2 gcr gksu gnome-keyring gtk-update-icon-cache libatk-bridge2.0-0 libatspi2.0-0 libcairo-gobject2 libcairo2 libegl1-mesa libgail-common libgail18 libgcr-ui-3-1 libgd3 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgksu2-0 libgl1-mesa-glx libglade2-0 libglew2.0 libglu1-mesa libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libnotify4 libpam-ck-connector libpangocairo-1.0-0 libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0 librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common libstartup-notification0 libwayland-egl1-mesa libx11-6 libxaw7 libxcomposite1 libxcursor1 libxdamage1 libxext6 libxfixes3 libxft2 libxi6 libxinerama1 libxmu6 libxmuu1 libxpm4 libxrandr2 libxrender1 libxt6 libxtst6 libxv1 libxxf86dga1 libxxf86vm1 mesa-utils notification-daemon pinentry-gnome3 pinentry-gtk2 python-cairo python-glade2 python-gtk2 python-notify wicd-gtk x11-utils x11-xserver-utils xauth The foll
Re: [DNG] Is t worth the effort for SPF?, DMARC>, DKIM?, etc
On 9/28/20 11:55 AM, terryc wrote: > Does anyone have any figures on how effective these methods are? > It seems we get a new idea every few years and none make the slightest > difference in spam levels. we use all these + custom SA scores for related rules and seen great decline in spam levels. the only spam that come through these days are from the "trusted" email mafia : gmail, yahoo, hotmail. got some custom SA rules for those too, but still it's hard to catch everything right.. just 2c. OpenPGP_0xF634004775696B86_and_old_rev.asc Description: application/pgp-keys OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?
On 9/23/20 11:05 PM, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > 1) a more restrictive postfix main.cf than in the guide, so less spam > gets through to rspamd: postfix rejected about 37% of emails last > month, rspamd about 7% with another 5% going to to users spam folders > and is thus reviewable by them. The main reason for postfix to reject > an email outright is no SPF. > you should (if not already), implement postscreen too.. seen huge drop in spam with that... drops most spambots, before reaching postfix process. http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?
On 9/20/20 12:55 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > Easiest possible newbie email server setup, use and support, ideas? in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to deliver much... i'd suggest a host/vps online with a static ip for that.. in anycase, there are some scripts that simplify the process of setting up an email, but probably need tweaking to work with Devuan. eg..: https://mailinabox.email/ https://modoboa.org/en/ https://iredmail.org/ https://mailcow.email/ you could also setup a control panel software to set everything up for you... (eg. webmin, ispconfig).. note, that most common setup postfix/dovecot/spamassassin/clamav would be really heavy on resources.. especially spamassassin+clamav.. so, you might want to check rspamd as an alternative to sa.. just my 2c on easy mail server setup. d. p.s. using isp's smtp seems in contradiction to privacy/keeping mail on our own hands.. (?) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility
On 9/16/20 3:45 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> Speaking of Netowrk manager, am I the only one who hates it messing >> with /etc/resolv.conf? > No. You are not the only one. tito already wrote the solution for nm in this thread : " This feature could be disabled by adding this to the [main] section: dns=none in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf " so you can use local dns caching, unbound, dnsmasq, other... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Error installing samba in beowulf
what about beowulf-security repo? are you syncing all beowulf repos/dists ? On 8/31/20 11:53 PM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > I moved the repository to http://deb.devuan.org/merged// and it follows > the same problem that does not allow me to install samba from an > installation made with devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-desktop.iso > > root@clt-iyc-03:/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan# sh rdbeowulf.sh > == > > Actualizando los repositorios DEVUAN 'beowulf'; main/debian-installer, > main, contrib, non-free > == > > > Mirroring to /mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan/beowulf from > http://deb.devuan.org/merged// > Arches: i386,amd64 > Dists: beowulf > Sections: main/debian-installer,main,contrib,non-free > Pdiff mode: none > Will clean up after mirroring. > Attempting to get lock ... > Not able to use rsync to update remote trace files ... > Getting meta files ... > [ 0%] Getting: dists/beowulf/Release... #** GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/Release ==> 200 OK (3s) > ok > [ 0%] Getting: dists/beowulf/InRelease... #** GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/InRelease ==> 200 OK (1s) > ok > [ 0%] Getting: dists/beowulf/Release.gpg... #** GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/Release.gpg ==> 200 OK (1s) > ok > [GNUPG:] ERROR add_keyblock_resource 33554433 > [GNUPG:] NEWSIG > [GNUPG:] ERROR keydb_search 33554445 > [GNUPG:] ERROR keydb_search 33554445 > [GNUPG:] ERRSIG BB23C00C61FC752C 1 10 00 1598891740 9 > E032601B7CA10BC3EA53FA81BB23C00C61FC752C > [GNUPG:] NO_PUBKEY BB23C00C61FC752C > gpgv: unknown type of key resource 'trustedkeys.kbx' > gpgv: recurso de bloque de claves '/root/.gnupg/trustedkeys.kbx': Error > general > gpgv: Firmado el lun 31 ago 2020 12:35:40 CDT > gpgv: usando RSA clave > E032601B7CA10BC3EA53FA81BB23C00C61FC752C > gpgv: Imposible comprobar la firma: No hay clave pública > .temp/.tmp/dists/beowulf/Release.gpg signature does not verify. > [GNUPG:] ERROR add_keyblock_resource 33554433 > [GNUPG:] NEWSIG > [GNUPG:] ERROR keydb_search 33554445 > [GNUPG:] ERROR keydb_search 33554445 > [GNUPG:] ERRSIG BB23C00C61FC752C 1 10 01 1598891740 9 > E032601B7CA10BC3EA53FA81BB23C00C61FC752C > [GNUPG:] NO_PUBKEY BB23C00C61FC752C > gpgv: unknown type of key resource 'trustedkeys.kbx' > gpgv: recurso de bloque de claves '/root/.gnupg/trustedkeys.kbx': Error > general > gpgv: Firmado el lun 31 ago 2020 12:35:40 CDT > gpgv: usando RSA clave > E032601B7CA10BC3EA53FA81BB23C00C61FC752C > gpgv: Imposible comprobar la firma: No hay clave pública > .temp/.tmp/dists/beowulf/InRelease signature does not verify. > [ 0%] Getting: > dists/beowulf/main/debian-installer/binary-i386/Packages.gz... #** GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/main/debian-installer/binary-i386/Packages.gz > ==> 200 OK (3s) > ok > [ 0%] Getting: > dists/beowulf/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages.gz... #** > GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages.gz > ==> 200 OK (2s) > ok > [ 1%] Getting: > dists/beowulf/main/debian-installer/binary-all/Packages.gz... #** GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/main/debian-installer/binary-all/Packages.gz > ==> 200 OK (1s) > ok > [ 6%] Getting: dists/beowulf/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz... #** GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz > ==> 200 OK (328s) > ok > [ 45%] Getting: dists/beowulf/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz... #** GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz ==> > 200 OK (329s) > ok > [ 83%] Getting: dists/beowulf/main/binary-all/Packages.gz... #** GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/main/binary-all/Packages.gz > ==> 200 OK (155s) > ok > [ 99%] Getting: dists/beowulf/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz... #** > GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz > ==> 200 OK (3s) > ok > [ 99%] Getting: dists/beowulf/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages.gz... #** > GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages.gz > ==> 200 OK (2s) > ok > [ 99%] Getting: dists/beowulf/contrib/binary-all/Packages.gz... #** > GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/contrib/binary-all/Packages.gz > ==> 200 OK (1s) > ok > [ 99%] Getting: dists/beowulf/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz... #** > GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz > ==> 200 OK (3s) > ok > [ 99%] Getting: dists/beowulf/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz... #** > GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz > ==> 200 OK (3s) > ok > [100%] Getting: dists/beowulf/non-free/binary-all/Packages.gz... #** > GET > http://deb.devuan.org/merged//dists/beowulf/non-free/binary-a
Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?
On 8/30/20 12:35 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > advice is most welcome. maybe a "long shot" , but did you try another cable/adapter/case for that disk? a few badblocks (?) would slow down the whole disk and maybe not open some folder(s)... "input/output error" and smart "read failure" could be something else. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] latest wireshark-common/ceres depends on libsystemd0
On 8/26/20 12:00 PM, Mark Hindley wrote: > The wireshark-common libsystemd0 dependency is not new AFAIK. What has changed > is that systemd in Debian sid is now version 246 whilst elogind is only 243.7 > (the latest version available). This means that the libsystmd0/libelogind0 > binary ABI compatibility can be broken. See Debian #968379 and #968484. > > I am in touch with elogind upstream and version 246 is in preparation which > should resolve this issue. aha, woke up a while ago, and filed the bug without really noticing this: Depends: libsystemd0 (>= 246) that makes sense -after reading above bug reports as well-, thanks for the info :) will update bug report accordingly.. > > Removing the libsystemd0 dependency completely is a separate issue. I doubt > Debian would do that. It is only likely to happen in Devuan is somebody offers > to maintain the fork. i'm not in favor of removing libsystemd0 completely in debian, i just think there should be sustainable options for any-init users. d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] latest wireshark-common/ceres depends on libsystemd0
followup, just for reference : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=969023 On 8/26/20 12:48 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2020-08-25 16:42, Dimitris via Dng wrote: >> was -rarely- using wifite, that depends on tshark+wireshark-common, but >> can live without it.. >> >> but was wondering.., >> should i file a bug report in debian or a new RFP in devuan? >> >> debian seems to ignore/discard any non-systemd reports lately, so it >> would probably stay in wishlist for ever there, eg. #964139. >> >> thx, >> d. >> > > Sure, send reports to Debian - with a patch if possible - so they are > aware that their hostile decisions are not appreciated. In time they > might even decide to be more cooperative. > > golinux > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] latest wireshark-common/ceres depends on libsystemd0
was -rarely- using wifite, that depends on tshark+wireshark-common, but can live without it.. but was wondering.., should i file a bug report in debian or a new RFP in devuan? debian seems to ignore/discard any non-systemd reports lately, so it would probably stay in wishlist for ever there, eg. #964139. thx, d. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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Re: [DNG] history
On 8/7/20 12:36 AM, marc wrote: > People being easily identified and > tracked in real life is something that strengthens authoritarian regimes > (whether fascist or communist) as well coercive corporate interests. there were no communist authoritarian regimes in history.. communist by name perhaps, but in reality, authoritarian = fascist.. so please don't reproduce neoliberal b*shit... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Upgrade to Beowulf borks SSH. how to recover.
On 7/20/20 10:05 AM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > Actually i would plugin kbd & screen before pushing that big red switch. > Once logged in scp or sftp the public key from yourworkstation and move on. +1 --- the password option is still available in beowulf, upgrade couldn't have replaced /etc/ssh/sshd_config without warning, if that already had "PasswordAuthenticate yes" . so just use a local console to debug issue.. check /var/log/auth.log, check if ssh is running, /etc/ssh/sshd_config settings, ~/.ssh permissions ... are you loggin in as root perhaps? default option for root logins is "prohibit-password" in beowulf, meaning access as root with public key only.. if that's the case, try logging as regular user and then sudo/su to fix sshd_config and restart ssh daemon. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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Re: [DNG] OT: mpv drops GNOME support
On 7/8/20 9:57 PM, Jim Jackson wrote: > > https://linuxreviews.org/Mpv_drops_GNOME_support > the change was reverted, few hours later. (just read commit comments.. ) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf Kernel Panic on Qemu - 202005214
On 5/21/20 1:10 PM, c...@free.fr wrote: > the actual boot starts... and ends with : maybe there are some other helpful messages in between.. anything like "VFS: x" ? another thing to check, is iso's sha256sum correct? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf, and Apparmor's effect on bind9
On 5/23/20 9:54 PM, Jim Jackson wrote: > Generally, why does apparmor get installed on a dist-upgrade, when it > wasn't there initially? It isn't as if it's a new "thing". in repos since wheezy.. from beowulf/buster on, it is enabled by default: https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/HowToUse#Enable_AppArmor > I got it > on my ascii -> beowulf upgrade, and removed it. https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/HowToUse#Disable_AppArmor -- if anyone wants to disable/debug apparmor for a specific profile, you can use : aa-complain /etc/apparmor.d/some.profile everything will work, with all DENIED msgs printed to dmesg for review-fixes. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf, and Apparmor's effect on bind9
On 5/23/20 8:42 PM, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > The workaround mentioned in the bug report for is to add explicit > permissions in /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.named by adding a line to > that file with the path to the problem file and the permissions. In > this case rwk for read/write/lock. In my case I added this line: > > /var/log/misc.log rwk [plain text this time..] bug report link, was about /var/cache, not /var/log (?).. anyway, the default apparmor profile has this : # some people like to put logs in /var/log/named/ instead of having # syslog do the heavy lifting. /var/log/named/** rw, /var/log/named/ rw, some people following net guides/migrating from older versions, already used /var/log/bind/ or /var/log/bind8 or /var/log/bind9, or other custom log path. they all fail with default apparmor profile.. so, one could add (eg.) : /var/log/bind9/** rw, /var/log/bind9/ rw, and everything would work.. in your example, "k" is for file lock, not sure it's needed in this case (?) 2c. d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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Re: [DNG] Check default_transport if you can't send email through Postfix
On 5/16/20 11:49 PM, tux...@sapo.pt wrote: > The only thing it has in favor( we could join to that a simpler way of > configuration, no m4 needed like Sendmail), > it consumes horrendous amounts of resources.. with no explanation for > such hog resources behavior.. but it lacks a ton of features from Exim4( > based in Sendmail ).. "hog resources" & "lacks a ton of features" ??!? are you sure? care to put some examples? just wandering, cause i've seen no such behaviour/lack of features from "newbie" postfix in the past decade+... been a while since i used exim4 (like a decade ago :D)... i know there's no postfix-light package, in contrast to exim4-daemon-light (...), but never really felt the need for one... d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working
On 5/17/20 12:04 AM, tux...@sapo.pt wrote: > But is a major flaw, being it a init system for a operating system, and > not beign able to run shell scripts( systemd has also this limitation.. ).. you're right about s6, but wrong about systemd. you can run shell scripts with that bloated beast. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Installing birdtray on Beowulf
On 5/5/20 12:11 PM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > Last time I looked at claws (a few years ago) I couldn’t get it to connect to > Exchange/Office365 but perhaps I should take another look if it’s changed > since then? evolution can connect to exchange, and iirc, includes a tray icon by default.. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Installing birdtray on Beowulf
On 5/5/20 5:38 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > Are there any other methods to get it installed without compiling from source? you can try ceres version (=1.8.1) to see if it works in beowulf. btw, i think this is a debian bug.. tried to install birdtray on a buster machine and got the same error.. d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring
On 4/26/20 6:54 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > Apt refused to acknowledge that the package even existed. 1) # wget http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb # dpkg -i devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb or 2) # apt-key adv --keyserver hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 0xBB23C00C61FC752C (i'm sure there's also a 3+4+5.. ), then run `apt update` again. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Waterfox issues under Devuan ASCII
hey, On 4/14/20 10:23 AM, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > I upgraded Ascii to Beowulf and successfully used the new version of > Waterfox. However, there are certain issues like a missing copy of > dpkg-reconfigure. does running `/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure` work? that could happen because of a broken $PATH for root. I also noticed that Beowulf now comes with more > stringent security. A side effect of the increased security caused my > version of simple-netaid-gui, the one coded under Lazarus, to fail in > accessing certain directories. The SUID backend is also denied access > to these directories with the effect of failing to connect to any > connection. I had run the SUID backend as root to be able to establish > a connection. > > Please note, I am only describing the consequences of an increased > more stringent security. I am NOT pleading the distribution to change > to please my whims. Manually, I am still able to connect as root with > the backend. However, suggestions as to how I can access files with > the frontend are most welcome. smells like apparmor..., check dmesg for DENIED messages. if that's the case, you'll need to either remove/disable/put in complain mode only, apparmor. or put a profile for the failing applications in /etc/apparmor.d/. just 2c, d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!
68.7 is in beowulf-proposed-updates repos : https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=firefox-esr&release=beowulf although, i think it should be in beowulf-security.. (?) d. On 4/13/20 2:37 PM, dal wrote: > Installing Beowulf today, I get > > firefox-esr_68.6.1esr-1~deb10u1_amd64.deb > > despite that Debian said 8 Apr 2020 that the upgrade to > > 68.7.0esr-1~deb10u1 > > Is necessary because of CVE-2020-6821 CVE-2020-6822 CVE-2020-6825 > > This does not look right? > > /D > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?
On 4/9/20 3:05 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > I have received good service from them. They are in the UK, I'm in > Japan but that wasn't a problem. I got to them via the FSF's RYF > (Respects Your Freedom) site. You might want to check that out. https://minifree.org/ bankrupt, shutting down + shaming fsf... anyway, it was always too expensive for me. got a few refurbished T410, T420, T420s, T520 for <200€, and they all run devuan or some other debian based distro without trouble. got to say, i've switched intel default wlan with atheros one, put on a custom bios and disabled camera/wwan there. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?
On 4/8/20 9:03 PM, tom wrote: > I think it's pretty horrible for Jitsi to flat out block every other > browser than Chrome or Firefox. Jitsi "blocks" firefox too.. jitsi meet officially recommends only chromium-based browsers. work on firefox compatibility has started, but still nothing working... so even for us ff users, jitsi doesn't work well. (one on one works ok, but video/audio conference is a very bad experience.. (no video/audio, random freezes where a reload is needed, very bad video/audio quality with breaks, etc.) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?
On 4/7/20 5:17 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > OMG how can you agree with Dal and then go on to suggest the use of something > cloud based and written in Java ? jitsi can be installed anywhere. https://meet.jit.si is cloud based in europe dcs, run by jitsi devs, yes. but you don't have to use that, there are hundrends of other public jitsi meet instances (random list : https://fediverse.blog/~/DonsBlog/videochat-server?responding_to=745) and of course you can host your own. zoom is also cloud based proprietary thing, based in the us... so not a good thing having our calls stored in some nsa dc in gafamville, usa... also misleading ads, privacy concers, data sellout.. how's that any different than skype? random link : https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/04/security_and_pr_1.html signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?
On 4/7/20 9:05 AM, Rod Rodolico wrote: > but it works so far with FF doesn't work for everyone, that's why jitsi suggests the use of chromium based browsers.. https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/commit/92740707f01547d4e431050ade1d17589c544629#diff-12cdb961bef2a8b83d0f510226f85495 https://community.jitsi.org/t/software-unusable-on-firefox-why/22143/10 https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/4758 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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Re: [DNG] Fwd: ceres policykit
On 3/26/20 4:39 PM, Mark Hindley wrote: > It is fine. If you look in the changelog you will see it documented. The > backend > libraries have been removed in 0.105-26. thanks for the info.. p.s. need to fix key encryption, suddenly tb-enigmail is encrypting all outgoing... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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[DNG] Fwd: ceres policykit
once again, plain text.. Forwarded Message Subject: ... Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 16:34:26 +0200 From: Dimitris To: Dng hey @ll, for the past days i have an "issue" dist-upgrading in a ceres/amd64 machine: # apt dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0 The following packages will be upgraded: libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 # apt policy libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0: Installed: 0.105-25+devuan8 Candidate: 0.105-26+devuan1 Version table: 0.105-26+devuan1 500 500 https://$mirror/merged ceres/main amd64 Packages *** 0.105-25+devuan8 500 500 https://$mirror/merged testing/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status # apt policy libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0: Installed: 0.105-25+devuan8 Candidate: 0.105-25+devuan8 Version table: *** 0.105-25+devuan8 500 500 https://$mirror/merged testing/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status # apt policy libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0 libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0: Installed: 0.105-25+devuan8 Candidate: 0.105-25+devuan8 Version table: *** 0.105-25+devuan8 500 500 https://$mirror/merged testing/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status is this safe to proceed and remove? should i wait for newer versions of these "obsolete" packages into ceres? thanks, signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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Re: [DNG] Anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan?
easy to install with the quick install guide, but getting video/audio to work is something i didn't manage.. tried opening all required ports, but still.. gave it up, cause it was just play... (also because it works with g-evil chrome/chromium best/only?) using nextcloud talk atm for personal things, but community version has some limits.. (max 4-5 people in video chat..). --- there are many jitsi meet instances listed here (unofficial list) : https://wiki.chatons.org/doku.php/la_visio-conference_avec_jitsi and even more, if you look around.. d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!
> wget > https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb > > dpkg --install devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb > resending, last message was encrypted.. --- or : # apt-key adv --keyserver hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 94532124541922FB signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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Re: [DNG] discord is spyware
On 3/21/20 9:39 AM, dalo9fz--- via Dng wrote: > i use matrix.org > though it does not support screen sharing atm nor video.. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Is anybody using Discord for virtual get-togethers in Devuan?
On 3/21/20 8:08 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > I need audio, video, and the ability to show what's on my screen. jitsi meet can do all that. and plenty of instances around (especially these days). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux
On 3/15/20 9:35 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Sat, 14 Mar 23:54:07 -0700 > tom scripsit: >> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:08:37 + >> Mark Rousell wrote: >> >>> I am not opposing your central message in any way, but... >>> >>> On 13/03/2020 02:59, Steve Litt wrote: involves programming, and most people can't do that. Oh really? 12 lines of code and they can't do it (or have a friend help do it)? >>> >>> Really. There is no way on earth that the average computer user could >>> even come close to writing a program or script and this applies to >>> most of their friends too. >>> >>> Some people might be able to use a macro recorder or a graphical tool >>> that allows them to assemble functional blocks to create a script, but >>> even that much would be too much for most end users in my experience. >>> End users want to use, to consume. Creating/programming is not in >>> their mindset. >>> >>> >>> It strikes me that back when I first got into computers (the early >>> 80s), there was a sense of optimism that the rapid growth of widely >>> affordable technology would result in a new golden era of technical >>> literacy. Oh dear, how naive. >>> >>> Instead, the techies, geeks and entrepreneurs made technology >>> *easier*. We made it so that it was easier for end users to consume, >>> to use what was offered to them. There was no need for the >>> non-technical end users to learn anything. It all just works. Or, if >>> it doesn't work, they throw it away and try something else. And so >>> that golden age of technical literacy has never really arrived. What >>> we have now is billions of consumers and, proportionately speaking, >>> fewer and fewer people who actually know how it all works. >>> >>> Thus, the average user (even the average Linux user, I suspect) is not >>> going to be scripting stuff any time soon (other than maybe by typing >>> in stuff they Googled). >>> >> >> I strongly feel like this kind of user should stay away from Linux and >> just use Windows. When those kind of users displace the original >> user-base of literate people they start making the system as a whole >> worse for the core community who built the thing in the first place. >> > > Errr this is what just happend in the last decade(s), peaking in systemd > and gnome3. > users are not to blame. devs/sysadms wanted linux to prevail on desktop/compete with windoze, and those are the results/accomplishments so far. (= systemd, gafam leading opensource world, more m$ clones and wsl).. p.s. elitism doesn't really help, in either side... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] FF now defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS for US
On 3/2/20 1:08 AM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > So how can we keep off this cloudflare thing? there are also other non-corp DoH/DoT providers, so default cloudflare setting in ff can be changed.. (eg. https://libredns.gr/). generally, i don't find DoH a problem, i think it's a good measure for most users.. it's cloudflare i don't trust. 2c, d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Which DE?
On 2/25/20 10:07 PM, viverna wrote: > LXDE is ancestor of LXQt. However is a wonderful DE mostly with openbox > combination. Openbox is great even alone. MATE with Openbox is a lighter possibility too.. i've been changing DEs, DMs regurarly, but always find myself going back to MATE. (lately i've tried enlightement... works well - a bit buggy) most DEs are either buggy or feautureless. (will NOT try GNOME/KDE, i kinda of think of those as systemd-like DEs, bloated to the bone.). other than that, i'd say MATE covers most needed desktop features, and XFCE comes shortly after.. LXDE is not abandoned, but it's missing stuff that you have to get from other DEs (=download extra libs, packages..), same as LXQT which is very interesting.. Trinity was very buggy last 2 times i tried it, completely unusable for me.. (even though my first ever DE was kde3 and i wanted it to work for old times sake... :D ) back to MATE, it now (versions > 1.24) offers official no-systemd support for mate-session, so it's certainly a positive attitude, other modern DEs lack.. just 2c, d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] systemd breaking linuxcnc ...
On 1/28/20 6:46 PM, Rainer Weikusat via Dng wrote: > run ntpdate from i've witnessed cases in the past where ntpd wasn't time-syncing correctly, and ntpdate saved the date/time. so, IMHO, there's nothing wrong with ntpdate. just 2c, d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf repository weirdness or broken?
On 1/21/20 10:44 PM, onefang wrote: > The stinpriza mirror's domain name is mirror.stinpriza.org, the IP is > correct though. I don't know how you ended up with search.stinpriza.org, > perhaps it's in one of your sources files? It's likely that > search.stinpriza.org doesn't actually point to a Devuan mirror. i can confirm this, as mirror.stinpriza.org admin. search.stinpriza.org is on the same ip4/6, but a completely different web service and doesn't point to the Devuan mirror. correct sources.list (source commented out) if you want to use just stinpriza mirror : ### deb https://mirror.stinpriza.org/devuan/merged/ beowulf contrib non-free main # deb-src https://mirror.stinpriza.org/devuan/merged/ beowulf main non-free contrib deb https://mirror.stinpriza.org/devuan/merged/ beowulf-security contrib non-free main # deb-src https://mirror.stinpriza.org/devuan/merged/ beowulf-security main non-free contrib deb https://mirror.stinpriza.org/devuan/merged/ beowulf-updates contrib non-free main # deb-src https://mirror.stinpriza.org/devuan/merged/ beowulf-updates main non-free contrib ### d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] VMware segmentation fault
On 1/19/20 11:22 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > I would like to run Windows 7 or 8 in a virtual machine. Any way to > get it cheaply? virtualbox, kvm ? ( https://wiki.debian.org/SystemVirtualization ) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] OT: Langue naturelle (was Re: Fonts trouble on beowulf)
On 1/10/20 1:32 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> Why ? Everyone else seems to want to learn English ;-) > Want to? > > I was forced to at the tender age of 12. > In addition to French. +1 , and i think nowadays they start "wanting to learn english" even younger, about ~6-7 years old. p.s. u can also replace "english" with "systemd" :D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?
On 1/9/20 7:04 PM, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > > Hm... in fact I have consolekit installed. And if I try to remove it, apt > wants to install elogind instead. Perhaps consolekit is less bad...? > > consolekit goes away, but do you get synaptic? what happens with : # apt install libelogind0 libpam-elogind synaptic signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf
On 1/8/20 8:07 PM, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: > if you are referring to the mythical bird that rises from the ashes "φοίνιξ" in ancient greek. any latin-based name, is just a derivative. :D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] why is dist-upgrade trying to remove mate
On 1/3/20 9:41 AM, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 10:45:28PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: >> Hi All, >> I just did apt-get update followed by dist-upgrade on a Beowulf >> system, and I get this: > > Hi, > > I just pushed a new verion of policykit to beowulf. It could be related > to that. > > Do you gave elogind installed? > > What does apt upgrade try to do? > had the same issue with mate. iirc, consolekit is to blame. remove all related consolekit packages first, and they'll be replaced by elogind ones. (if they don't, install them by hand). then dist-upgrade normally. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports
On 12/31/19 9:58 PM, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > I've upgraded standard no-X systems openrc, no-X, task-console-productivity, luks . dist-upgraded from fresh 2.1 release to beowulf. got a segmanation fault during openrc configuration on upgrade and install failed.. no screenshots available, but it had something to do with lvm2. so, upgraded lvm2 first, and everything else upgraded smoothly afterwards. i also remember dist-upgrade, bringing in libsystemd0 (not sure why), but after manual installation of libelogind0 it was gone. d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] dotorg heist
morning @ll, was wondering..., is devuan (and/or dyne) thinking about taking any action concerning the great .org heist? https://savedotorg.org https://act.eff.org/action/help-stop-the-sale-of-public-interest-registry-to-a-private-equity-firm d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Conversion script: was Formail for managing digests
On 12/3/19 10:02 AM, Denis Roio wrote: > My opinion however is this: maintaining a *unique package* of version > controlled init scripts in Devuan is much, much easier than > maintaining a sysvinit script in each different package, forking it. > > I'm not sure about pressing counter-arguments against this. maybe i'm wrong, but what if this unique package turns into a single point of failure for all running daemons (?) haven't given it much thought, just sayin'. d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 27
On 11/27/19 11:55 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..act on it. 20years using email, i've roughly seen ~10 replies by digest readers. and as i already said i don't care about it, nor do i think it needs action from devuan side. those who do care (there seem to be a few so far making it a "hot" topic...), should.. 2c more (& moving forward), d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] test_rewrite.sh http://pkgmaster.devuan.org fail
below are changes i did a couple of months ago to make the script work..
maybe the versions are changed again, so do check the repo versions to
make sure, and manually edit those in the script..
# diff test_rewrite.sh test_rewrite_new.sh
65,66c65,66
<
DEBSEC_PKG="${BASEURL}/merged/pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/a/apache2/apache2_2.4.25-3+deb9u7_amd64.deb"
<
DEBINST_PKG="${BASEURL}/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/l/linux/btrfs-modules-4.9.0-9-amd64-di_4.9.168-1_amd64.udeb"
---
>
DEBSEC_PKG="${BASEURL}/merged/pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/a/apache2/apache2_2.4.25-3+deb9u8_amd64.deb"
>
DEBINST_PKG="${BASEURL}/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/l/linux/btrfs-modules-4.9.0-11-amd64-di_4.9.189-3_amd64.udeb"
On 11/27/19 11:43 AM, m_ma...@web.de wrote:
>> nothing important really, it's just that the script is looking for older
>> packages, that don't exist in repo anymore.. just needs updating...
>>
>> d.
>
> sorry Dimitris, i think it is imortant, i can not build a netinstall package
> for my cluster installation any more.
> The make can not find the needed udeb packages.
>
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> E: Unable to locate package base-installer
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> E: Unable to locate package bootstrap-base
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> E: Unable to locate package finish-install
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> E: Unable to locate package acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di
> E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di'
> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di'
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> E: Unable to locate package alsa-utils-udeb
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> and lot more udeb..
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Re: [DNG] test_rewrite.sh http://pkgmaster.devuan.org fail
On 11/27/19 11:14 AM, m_ma...@web.de wrote: > Dear all, > > can you please take a look to the servers configuration, i become errors if i > try test_rewrite.sh: this was already reported to mirror@d.o. it's not new.. nothing important really, it's just that the script is looking for older packages, that don't exist in repo anymore.. just needs updating... d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] long delays in waterfox
waterfox is not in devuan repos, so it's not a devuan thing, you should ask waterfox support for help.. in anycase, i'm running latest binary from antix repo and have no such issues.. waterfox is running fine.. (ff being my premier browser) maybe you should check .xsession-errors, running waterfox from terminal, or even starting a new profile.. d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Why is spamassasin compiling here?
On 11/7/19 2:01 PM, hal wrote: > 172609 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Feb 6 2019 > /usr/include/sys/types.h -> ../x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/types.h i think the problem is there.. symlink(?) to non-existent file.. in a debian stretch system (got no ascii with spamassassin available), this is a regular file, and /usr/include/sys/types.h doesn't exist.. # dpkg -S sys/types.h libc6-dev:amd64: /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/types.h maybe reinstall libc6-dev ?? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Why is spamassasin compiling here?
On 11/6/19 3:45 PM, hal wrote: > I've installed the libc6-dev-i386 package to see if it solves it but then I > wondered what is spamassasin doing compiling things anyway? > > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/sa-compile signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Mail message headers
On 10/24/19 11:38 AM, Daniel Abrecht via Dng wrote: > > I'm using Roundcube Webmail 1.2.3 on devuan ascii, > I don't have any of those strange http links in these headers. I also > think this is most likely caused by a plugin of your roundcube mail client. occasionaly i'm also, using latest upstream roundcube (1.3.10 currently) as mua with several plugins. mailman headers from DNG show properly on headers "page", not in the message window, broken like that.. so i also uspect it has to do with dyne.org webmail specifically, not with devuan lists and/or roundcube in general.. d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to fix rng-tools hang
On 10/28/19 5:24 AM, s@po wrote: > Does anyone knows how to surpass this? probably install haveged in systems without hwrng. other suggestion would be to use `HRNGDEVICE=/dev/urandom` in /etc/default/rng-tools, but that should be avoided for crypto entropy, iirc. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
