Re: [DNG] How to get CERES

2018-10-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Hendrik, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 02:24:12PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> Ceres is the unstable branch and changes on a daily basis. There is no >> installer for it (that I know of). If you want to create a Ceres VM, >> start with an A

Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?

2018-10-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Miroslav, Miroslav Skoric writes: > On 10/23/18 1:49 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> >> For access to other Linux boxen you may have to convince their sshd to >> do X11 forwarding (probably enabled by default) but once that's working >> you should have no problem

Re: [DNG] Everyone OK for using the logger program for runit logging?

2018-10-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Didier, Didier Kryn writes: > Le 24/10/2018 à 13:34, Olaf Meeuwissen a écrit: >> Of these, rsyslog is installed by default, at least on ascii. If you >> could assume rsyslog is always installed, binding the daemon's stdout >> and stderr to /dev/log would work fine too.

Re: [DNG] XFCE : can't open xsession-errors anymore (invalid UTF-8)

2018-10-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
to view it. # I never understand why folks use an editor to just look at a file. BTW, I use lv as my default pager. It does on-the-fly decompression, encoding detection (I get a lot of Shift_JIS files ...) and allows you to cycle through supported encodings (useful you have to deal with files

Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

2018-11-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
debootstrap reproducible go belly-up. > > Hi Irrwhan, > > you are right. Working on it. Update soon. Sorry for the inconvenience. FTR, my Devuan Docker image builds[1] on 2018-11-03 went just fine. Those are the first successful builds since 2018-07-04. [1]: https://gitlab.com/pad

Re: [DNG] systemd in sane-backends

2018-11-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
; > by > > dh $@ --parallel --with autotools_dev > > in debian/rules. If ./configure cannot find the necessary systemd API, the integration is automatically disabled. Not installing libsystemd-dev is a good way to achieve this. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF As

Re: [DNG] systemd in sane-backends

2018-11-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi aitor, aitor writes: > Hi Olaf, > > On 4/11/18 10:11, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> SANE has absolutely nothing to offer for printers. It is for scanners >> and some other raster image acquistion devices only. > > You are right, i was thinking on scanners. For printer

Re: [DNG] How to get CERES

2018-10-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ry.gitlab.com/paddy-hack/devuan:ceres This image is basically the result of running debootstrap for ceres. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] [FYI] Docker upgrade fails to restart daemon

2018-11-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
o problem is seen, can just /etc/init.d/docker start The fact that you have to do that is the issue ;-/ On Ascii, I did the same and things are working smoothly. > I hope this is useful info, not sure I'm missing the point here. > In any case thanks for opening the issue Olaf, I've s

Re: [DNG] [FYI] Docker upgrade fails to restart daemon

2018-11-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Steve Litt writes: > On Fri, 09 Nov 2018 22:13:16 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> [ ... docker-ce upgrade fails to restart daemon on Devuan ... ] >> [ ... same upgrade restarted daemon just fine on Debian ... ] >> [ ... suspecting docker-ce to only cater to sy

Re: [DNG] [FYI] Docker upgrade fails to restart daemon

2018-11-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Dan, Daniel Reurich writes: > On 13/11/18 00:57, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Steve Litt writes: >> >>> On Fri, 09 Nov 2018 22:13:16 +0900 >>> Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >>> >>>> [ ... docker-ce upgrade fails to restart daemon on Devuan ..

[DNG] [FYI] Docker upgrade fails to restart daemon

2018-11-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
stretch stable edge Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Nik, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp writes: > Hi Olaf! > > Am Samstag, 17. November 2018 schrieb Olaf Meeuwissen: >> Hi Nik, >> >> Dr. Nikolaus Klepp writes: >> >> > [...] The initrams tool provide a handy way to inspect/modify/rebuild >> > initr

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi KatolaZ, KatolaZ writes: > On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 09:14:06PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> # Those are a non-serious suggestion and a rethorical question, in case >> # that didn't come across. >> >> So, I'm against a *forced*

Re: [DNG] slashes in FAT file names

2018-12-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ere other than begging, borrowing, or > buying a Windows system? It's an SD card, right? Asking a friendly neighbour to rename the file(s) in question may be the quickest way out of your conundrum. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27

Re: [DNG] slashes in FAT file names

2018-12-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ve of FAT12/FAT16, the second of VFAT. Seriously suspect that the directory entry got whacked in the head and is corrupted. You may find https://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/fs/fat/fat-1.html useful if you go the route of hexediting that directory entry. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FS

Re: [DNG] slashes in FAT file names

2018-12-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Steve, Steve Litt writes: > On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 02:38:42 -0800 > Rick Moen wrote: > >> Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org): >> >> > On any Unix-like system I've come across the '/' (and '\0') are >> > about the only char

Re: [DNG] ifstat.eth0 on Boot

2018-12-11 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
tream log says * Ignore link state when bringing up hotplug interfaces at boot. Closes: #814785, #834820 As for the 'auto eth0' and 'allow-hotplug eth0', I get by with only the latter but I still have to integrate my wireless setup. I got into a habit of doing 'Ctrl-R wlan0' in a term

Re: [DNG] Website changes

2018-12-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
d. > > So why do they they look different than the rest of the site? Well, an > version of these pages was prepared last spring for inclusion on the > ASCII isos that use the debian-installer and it was just easier to keep > them in that format. > > 3) Finally, an explanation of non-f

Re: [DNG] slashes in FAT file names

2018-12-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
e a file using just its inode. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Founda

Re: [DNG] How to unmerge /usr (was Re: /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question)

2018-11-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
eakage. > It could possible be changed into an un-usrmerge-program if we want. Looks like your script is ignoring any symlinks in /bin and /sbin that point to stuff in /usr ... Or elsewhere not on the partition that holds / ... :-/ Hope that helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associa

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

2018-11-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
option in the installer. Even more thanks for making the default *not* merged because system-critical and system-non-critical really should be kept in different "drawers", IMNSHO. Hope this helps, but somewhat afraid it won't :-/ -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Stephan, Stephan Seitz writes: > On Sa, Nov 17, 2018 at 09:14:06 +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >>About that not looking all bad, perhaps the merge should be in the other >>direction, from /usr to / rather than from / to /usr. Or can we expect > > No, if you

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
in /boot. Are you implying that even in my scenario the "full disk encryption" myth goes out of my window? Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Sof

Re: [DNG] initramfs?

2018-11-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
d to take the possibility of no initramfs into account. Maybe it already does? Don't know. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwareh

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
didn't come across. So, I'm against a *forced* /usr merge. I hope Debian does the right thing but if necessary, I would like to see Devuan correct the wrong. However, let's focus on init freedom (and beowulf) first! Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-19 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi KatolaZ, KatolaZ writes: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 04:51:43PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> ACK. Just like to point out that Devuan might run into packages that >> have already moved programs that really ought to be in /bin or /sbin >

Re: [DNG] [FYI] Docker upgrade fails to restart daemon

2019-01-11 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
On 2018-12-29 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > On 2018-11-12, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> [...] >> >> When upgrading a package that provides a daemon, I expect the upgrade to >> shut down the daemon provided by the old version and start the one from >> the new versi

Re: [DNG] Debian bug-squashing

2019-01-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
you can specify the BTS to report to via the --bts or -B option. So I think you can just use your Devuan system. If in doubt, just check using apt-file and apt-cache like I did for any other utilities. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27

Re: [DNG] [FYI] Docker upgrade fails to restart daemon

2018-12-28 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
On 2018-11-12, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > [...] > > When upgrading a package that provides a daemon, I expect the upgrade to > shut down the daemon provided by the old version and start the one from > the new version. I do not want anything to "muck" with that, be that

Re: [DNG] Kernel modules not found during Beowulf install

2019-04-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi KatolaZ, KatolaZ writes: > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 05:05:44PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> # Full well aware that this is still experimental but ... >> >> I just tried installing from the netboot/gtk/mini.iso downloaded from >> >&g

Re: [DNG] Kernel modules not found during Beowulf install

2019-04-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi KatolaZ, KatolaZ writes: > On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 09:05:15PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi KatolaZ, >> >> KatolaZ writes: >> > > [cut] >> > >> > >> > Hi Olaf, >> > >> > I will rebuild the installer later toda

Re: [DNG] Kernel modules not found during Beowulf install

2019-04-05 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Dan, Daniel Reurich writes: > I will kick off a rebuild of debian-installer now. Thanks! > Dan > > > On 04/04/19 01:46, KatolaZ wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 09:05:15PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >>> Hi KatolaZ, >>> >>> Katola

[DNG] Kernel modules not found during Beowulf install

2019-03-31 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
any kernel modules because there is no 4.19.0-2-amd64 kernel image package in the Debian repos anymore :-( [1]: https://tracker.debian.org/news/1036492/linux-41928-2-migrated-to-testing/ Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Nate, Apologies for the belated follow-up. Nate Bargmann writes: > * On 2019 09 Mar 18:09 -0600, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> All the info I have seen on this topic in the thread is consistent with >> hostid returning the "mangled" IP address belonging to the mach

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
s for a while and says sudo: unable to resolve host yoda $ hostid 007f0101 Please note that the hostname command does *not* modify the contents of /etc/hostname. To persist changes across reboots you'll need to edit /etc/hostname yourself. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
packages that are "leaking" information and then >> publish an ongoing list of them and how they "phone home". >> >> golinux > > Good idea. Just like the evil bit. https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3514.txt :-) The evil bit of that RFC is in the publication da

Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Katolaz, Apologies for the delay. KatolaZ writes: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 09:14:45PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > [cut] > >> > It's in my todo-list, but I would be grateful of you would be so kind >> > to please open a bug on bugs.devuan.org, so we

Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
dn't happen on Debian courtesy of systemd. Can't seem to find the bug report I filed way back when at the moment but it was rather unceremoniously closed. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13

Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-13 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi KatolaZ, KatolaZ writes: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 08:08:22AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> I'm using this on two Devuan machines at the office. Works fine for >> me. Apart from running the `apt upgrade` it can also check for the need to &

Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-13 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
uot; and/or "rolling my own DE" types are not affected by all of this. Anyway, you can always tell apt to *not* install it apt get install task-gnome-desktop unattended-upgrades- and live without everything else that was not installed either as a result of that :-) Hope this helps,

Re: [DNG] unatternded upgrades by default in Debian

2019-02-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
icted "pain" by telling APT # to not install recommended packages in the first place. Your average KDE/GNOME desktop user might actually appreciate their security upgrades getting applied "behind their backs" or "without user intervention", depending on your po

Re: [DNG] ..should we set up our own usage policy wizard script?, was: OpenSSH: delay on beowulf

2019-02-11 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
be used. Perhaps it shouldn't and just try to resolve on a per request basis, seeing as service availability may come and go at any given time for a number of reasons. Hope this clarifies a bit, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B

Re: [DNG] Kernel modules not found during Beowulf install

2019-04-15 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Dan, Olaf Meeuwissen writes: > Hi Dan, > > Daniel Reurich writes: > >> I will kick off a rebuild of debian-installer now. > > Thanks! It's been 10 days since and I still haven't seen updated installers on pkgmaster. Where should I look, if not at https://pkgmaster

Re: [DNG] cannot reach gitlab

2019-05-01 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Don't know but I just successfully logged into my account via the web interface and cloned a test repository over HTTPS without trouble. # Haven't registered an SSH key (yet). > Sorry if I tried crazy actions. I'm new to git. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associ

Re: [DNG] Installation with netboot.tar.gz fails...

2019-05-02 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
this version of the installer and the kernel >> version available in the archive." >> >> Lastest available version of netboot.tar.gz is from 2018-07-17 Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F

Re: [DNG] Contents file generation

2019-05-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ven't tested but hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation

[DNG] Debian 9.9 point release includes debian-installer rebuild (was Re: Kernel modules not found during Beowulf install)

2019-04-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi all, Olaf Meeuwissen writes: > Hi Dan, > > Olaf Meeuwissen writes: > >> Hi Dan, >> >> Daniel Reurich writes: >> >>> I will kick off a rebuild of debian-installer now. >> >> Thanks! > > It's been 10 days since and I still haven

Re: [DNG] /run/user/#

2021-08-31 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
ent.browser /run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent.extra /run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent which makes sense because `gpg-agent` is started as part of my Xfce4 session. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
mor > is doing? Just thinking out loud, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
e automatically installed packages, you may want to mark (some of) the ones you want to keep manual. Just an idea, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
, something "evil" is going on, in that the telemetry stuff is using elevated privileges, and it may be time to use nullfsvfs. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
> uninstallation problematic. > >     In this case, the installer might force the use of ~/bin and ~/man > and create them if they don't exist. If I were you I would make the installation locations configurable, at least at build time with an option to override at install tim

Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
-image-amd64 to keep getting the latest version. Adjust for your architecture if necessary. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
t; while true; do kill -ILL 1 ; echo -n "." ; sleep 0.5 ; done > [...] > > OMG, that's both sad and hilarious. > > The jokes about systemd being ILL almost tell themselves. And the systemd fan-folk will be complaining about ILL will, no doubt. -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] Beowulf release schedule

2019-05-11 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
eryone know when there are mini isos and then installer > isos to test. ... and am still waiting for an announcement of newer isos to test :-/ # I've even been checking pkgmaster.devuan.org about weekly for newer # isos. No such luck ... yet :-( Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
n a priori would spell it out first time around (with the acronym in parentheses) *or* provide a link to a (wikipedia?) page explaining the thing. As per above. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F

Re: [DNG] calendars, contacts, to do lists

2019-05-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ards integration for org-mode. Of course if you don't use Emacs already (or are hooked on vi/mutt) then most or all of the above is of little use and concern. Anyway, hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 6

Re: [DNG] Continuing the quest for a decent browser

2019-07-16 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
t; searchable by eye. Aw, why not use your browser's search/find functionality? Does Ctrl+F work? # Still prone to eyebal searching myself but trying to improve ... Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA

Re: [DNG] Installing fresh copy of x86_64 Beowulf?

2019-07-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
er. Besides amd64, there are also installers for armhf and i386 but I've not tried those. For documentation, refer to the Debian installer's docs. Things don't seem to have changed much. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F8

Re: [DNG] How stable Is beowulf? How to upgrade from ascii?

2019-11-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
nt? Only if that user can also read the content of the directory in the first place. For that it needs r-x on the directory. # I vaguely remember that only --x is sufficient but am no longer sure # (and too lazy to check ;-) Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member sinc

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
se the question of commensurability. # Guessing you imply EUR as units (seeing an .at domain) but Definitly so if Zimbabwean dollar, LOL. Even JPY, although these don't have fractional bits, anymore. Just my 2 JPY, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 Gn

Re: [DNG] How to change the action of the computer's power button?

2019-12-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
settings perhaps. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation

Re: [DNG] I wrote IBM

2019-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
info/dng>, <mailto:dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org?subject=subscribe> I suspect that the Dyne.org Webmail client is "helpfully" converting the above List-*: header to the gunk you get to see. Based on that gunk and a quick search on rcmail.command, I further suspect that that Use

Re: [DNG] Where to coordinate OpenRC and Beowulf

2019-12-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
t; development. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation ht

Re: [DNG] Pager (was Re: Alternatives to synaptic?)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Erik, Erik Christiansen writes: > On 10.01.20 20:18, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> # There's still no zpager, even after asking for it two decades ago :-O >> # >> # https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=49942 > > In the "less" manpage, u

[DNG] Pager (was Re: Alternatives to synaptic?)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
, you get `more`. Personally, I prefer `lv` as I have to deal with Japanese in various encodings :-/ but it also does on the fly decompression. Great when looking at a compressed /usr/share/doc/*/changelog.Debian.gz! # There's still no zpager, even after asking for it two decades ago :-O # # https://bugs.

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ough, not 2.0.0 as shown in the form. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Found

Re: [DNG] Ascii/Beowulf nonfree firmware

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
es either so far. You did do a cold reboot after removing them, right? -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donat

[DNG] OT: Langue naturelle (was Re: Fonts trouble on beowulf)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ou are referring to the mythical bird that rises >>> from the ashes, it is 'Phoenix' in English. Anything else is not >>> English. >> Vous devez apprendre à parler la belle langue. Même certains Anglais >> peuvent l'apprendre. >> > Why ? Everyone else seems to want

Re: [DNG] OT: Langue naturelle (was Re: Fonts trouble on beowulf)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Dimitris via Dng writes: > On 1/10/20 1:32 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >>> Why ? Everyone else seems to want to learn English ;-) >> Want to? >> >> I was forced to at the tender age of 12. >> In addition to French. > > +1 , > and i think

[DNG] Catching up (was Re: Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd')

2019-12-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
s. Keep up the good work! > Any talk of switching our base is premature. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.o

Re: [DNG] Catching up (was Re: Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd')

2020-01-01 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ASCII install w/o any extra software worked fine for me. If one is going to upgrade right after the ASCII install anyway, not installing extra software during the initial install saves you lots of bandwidth. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 Gn

[DNG] ASCII 2.1 netinst, upgrade to Beowulf

2019-12-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
etro these days ;-) and seem to be using polkit with elogind. There # are no consolekit packages on my system. # Wait! I just noticed libck-connector0. # Hmm, I see I have libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 installed but no # libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0. Is that a/the problem? Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
sk-console-productivity installed it might be a Devuan specific issue. The brltty package is recommended there and there is no such task in Debian AFAIK. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Seeing every few seconds irrespective of triggers is overkill, as you mentioned already. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

[DNG] Picking VM MAC addresses (was Re: A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?)

2020-04-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
s._local These have the second least significant bit of the first byte set to one, so starting with 04 is NG. First byte values matching 0x#2, 0x#3, 0x#6, 0x#7, 0x#a, 0x#b, 0x#e and 0x#f, where # stands for an arbitrary hexdigit, are fine. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ifree.org/ > How difficult was it? Not difficult at all but I'd been using Linux (Debian) as a software developer and small-time sysadmin for two decades already. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F1

Re: [DNG] udev errors

2020-04-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
alid rule trigger the cascade of errors you see. I don't see the offending file in any of the Devuan/Debian packages so assume you installed a Canon provided scanner driver. In that case Canon really should be fixing this up but you could post the file (here or over at the sane-devel list) so I

Re: [DNG] more issues (RE: Beowulf Beta is here!)

2020-04-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
system installable from it > > do not contain the ifupdown package (nor other networking utilities besides > busybox ip?). > > The resulting base installation remains offline. I reported that in https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20200322.113542.8f9ac3d5.en.html and there was ta

Re: [DNG] tobacco patch?

2020-05-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Ian Zimmerman writes: > On 2020-05-16 16:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> What do you mean by "tobacco patch"? > > It's an analogy with a medical device used to help smokers with quitting. I think in Europe it's better known as a nicotine patch. Hope this helps

Re: [DNG] ibus

2020-03-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ay on all of my applications. In that respect, fcitx comes pretty close (using Xfce). > I am not sure why "a video-conferencing app" needs it though. Writing meeting minutes and chat, perhaps? Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-19 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
re with the Beowulf beta ISO this no longer works :cry: Off now to try with the amd64 server ISO (on non-UEFI hardware). Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F8

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Mark, Mark Hindley writes: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:05:18AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> Hi, >> >> goli...@devuan.org writes: >> >> > Dear dev1ers, >> > >> > The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for review. The &

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng writes: > Hi, > > goli...@devuan.org writes: > >> Dear dev1ers, >> >> The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for review. The >> installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos can be downloaded >> from: >

Re: [DNG] Chromium on Beowulf

2020-03-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
may be more of an issue as that package is completely useless by itself, AFAICS at least. BTW, the details on making it a Recommends: are in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=913116 Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key:

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
guess. Doesn't this thread kind-a make working on systemd something worthwhile? Wouldn't we be better off burying the thing and get on without? Not just in Devuan but also on the list? Just a thought, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F8

Re: [DNG] Complete system HDD encryption w/o LLVM.

2020-10-01 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
rs. - /var? Eh, /var/spool/ may have mail and print jobs, at least for some time. /var/log/ may contain sensitive stuff ... That said, I generally agree that for _most_ of *my* purposes there is no real need to have those trees encrypted. Still on the machine I am now typing this mai

[DNG] Network configuration (was Re: Danger: Debian POSIX hostility)

2020-09-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Didier, Didier Kryn writes: > Le 17/09/2020 à 13:34, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit: >> apt purge network-manager >> >> solved it for me ;-) >> >> Eh, perhaps I should mention that I also did a >> >> apt install netplug wpasupplicant ifupdown

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
r solved it for me ;-) Eh, perhaps I should mention that I also did a apt install netplug wpasupplicant ifupdown and tinkered a bit to get my interfaces(5) and wpa_supplicant.conf(5) snippets in working order. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-2

Re: [DNG] Failed run live usb iso

2020-09-28 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
t matter, per: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.en.html Worked fine for my USB stick. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

[DNG] Network configuration (was Re: Danger: Debian POSIX hostility)

2020-09-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Ian, Ian Zimmerman writes: > On 2020-09-17 20:34, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> apt install netplug wpasupplicant ifupdown > > I happen to dislike ifupdown almost as much as NetworkManager. It is a > poorly documented opaque mess. The fact that it's a debi

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Steve, Steve Litt writes: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 20:34:31 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Hendrik Boom writes: >> >> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 02:11:57AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> >> >> >> S

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-11-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
and the Poetterpuppies > can all gloat that most distros use systemd, but, ummm, what about the > #1 distro? > > SteveT Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9

Re: [DNG] Version control /etc (was Re: Ethernet names revisited)

2020-12-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Dimitris, Dimitris T. via Dng writes: > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> >> Have a look at etckeeper. > > was using it for years, but not anymore.. > too much disk i/o, too many files, `git gc` never ran (only by hand), > and it never really came handy during those

Re: [DNG] Version control /etc (was Re: Ethernet names revisited)

2020-12-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Martin, Martin Steigerwald writes: > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng - 13.12.20, 03:48:23 CET: >> Hi Hendrik, >> >> Hendrik Boom writes: >> > I wish everything user-configurable under /etc was under revision >> > control. then we might even be able to have

[DNG] Version control /etc (was Re: Ethernet names revisited)

2020-12-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
he log for the machine I'm writing this on goes back all the way to its initial install on 2017-01-11 of Devuan's Jessie Official Beta2 :-) You may want to keep your sensitive /etc/ files out of the repository though, depending on your level of paranoia. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] Linux's sucky cut and paste: was: problematic mouse driver?

2020-11-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
e and I guess that's why guake uses Shift+Ctrl-C. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Fr

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
hing not in that domain is forwarded to the corporate DNS servers. Works fine for me so I think dnsmasq can be more than _just_ a forwarder (which is all I wanted to point out). Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19

[DNG] Checking what was installed (was Re: X startup error)

2021-01-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
g. These files are rotated on a monthly basis, assuming you have logrotate installed, so for older logs check the *.log.*.gz files. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Suppor

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