[DNG] update error

2022-09-08 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
'$ apt update' wrote on Thu 08 Sep 2022 08:57:21 PM CEST: > An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is > not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: > http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged chimaera InRelease: The following > signatures were invalid:

Re: [DNG] Delete default xfce4 shortcuts

2022-07-10 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 14:13:45 +0100 fraser kendall wrote: > plagued by the xfce4 shortcut > > ctrl+alt+arrow = switch desktop On my LXqt/Openbox-Desktop, this is the default behaviour, defined in '~/.config/openbox/lxqt-rc.xml': left no

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-05-12 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On May 12, 2022 9:44:39 PM GMT+02:00, Fred wrote: > Hi Karl, > I don't use a DE, just openbox and xterm. The regular scroll wheel mouse > works correctly in both xev and the application. Button 2 is identified as 2 > so I contend it has to have something to do with program(s) run to use

Re: [DNG] trouble with rdiff-backup

2022-04-24 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 13:17:38 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > OSError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system > > Is anyone else having problems like these? Is rdiff-backup busted? > Or is my new backup drive or my USB interface busted? No issues with my rdiff-backup (chimaera) here: I just moved it to

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 18:26:59 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > I would like a mouse with a middle button *and* a scroll wheel. > So there's no ambiguity as to which I am using. > I've never seen one. Out of curiosity, I just did a quick websearch for four+button+mouse - there are dozens of options

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > > On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700 Fred wrote: > [...] > > > > Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful wi

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700 Fred wrote: > A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in > Devuan Beowulf (AMD64). > > So, where do I go from here? Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with $ find / | grep xorg.conf Also worth a try: $

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-22 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On April 22, 2022 12:21:02 AM GMT+02:00, aitor wrote: > Hi Fred, > > On 21/4/22 23:39, Fred wrote: > > > I don't understand what you mean by virtual terminal. > > For sure the login prompts of tty2, tty3... brung up by holding down the > Ctrl+Alt keys, and pressing one of the function keys

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-21 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On April 21, 2022 9:28:16 PM GMT+02:00, wrote: > Hi, > > If I install gpm or consolation won't that conflict with whatever driver > is already installed? gpm (and I suppose also consolation) is active only on the console, not in virtual terminals - so there's no conflict. Libre Grüße,

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-21 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On April 21, 2022 6:07:20 PM GMT+02:00, Fred wrote: > Hello, > > What program is used as mouse driver on Beowulf and Chimaera? Gpm was > previously used but it is not installed now. I need to work with a > nonstandard serial three button mouse without scroll wheel. It needs a > baud rate

Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-18 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 00:41:53 +0200 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Dementia Sorry, I mean: just don't feed it! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] OT, once again: Samba and ClamAV

2022-04-18 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Dear greybeards, another (i hope interesting) off topic question I don't know where else to get answered constructively: Why doesn't ClamAV's 'clamonacc' react on samba cifs shares - and it needs a 'vfs_virusfilter' configuration in the smb.conf? I am (quite) sure, that I didn't have

Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-18 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:48:59 +1000 Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > presuamably it now says daedalus with u rather than daedalas ? Dementia is a b1tch, as tr0lls are... onezero, f. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] OT: redirecting piped / processed stderr to a file

2022-03-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 22:25:51 +0100 Ludovic Bellière wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2022, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > [...] > > > >So I assume that it is 'tr' which recognizes that rsync's output is > >already buffered and thus keeps this setting - while the output

Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply - SOLVED

2022-03-22 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 00:38:05 -1000 Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > The problem seemed to be with my wifi configuration. > I'd been using the 2.4GHz radio. Perhaps the settings, > based on Apple recommendations, weren't the best. > > In any case, by enabling the 5GHz radio with AC mode, > WPA2-PSK

Re: [DNG] OT: redirecting piped / processed stderr to a file

2022-03-14 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 19:10:43 +0100 Ludovic Bellière wrote: > Reading stdbuf man page, it tells us that 'dd' is unaffected by its > settings because 'dd' doesn't use streams: Yes, I noticed that - but it is the stdout of 'tr' which I have to modify, and only when I use it with 'dd'. Without

Re: [DNG] OT: redirecting piped / processed stderr to a file

2022-03-14 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On March 14, 2022 3:38:43 PM GMT+01:00, "Ludovic Bellière" wrote: > Hello Florian, > > The output isn't going anywhere, it's simply being buffered. It's a > default when a tool doesn't specify buffering behavior for stdout. In a > chained pipe, the output will only start being sent once the

Re: [DNG] OT: redirecting piped / processed stderr to a file

2022-03-14 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On March 14, 2022 11:42:16 AM GMT+01:00, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > Where is it going resp. how do I catch it? I was able to work around it by putting the 'tr'-logic in the "postprocessing" logmailer script. This creates some overhead, as the script loops o

[DNG] OT: redirecting piped / processed stderr to a file

2022-03-14 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Hallo list, may I ask for support with redirecting piped / processed stderr to a file? dd prints it's progress to stderr, I can redirect it to a file: $ dd if=/dev/zero of=./zeroes bs=4M count=1000 status=progress 2> ./file Now I want to get rid of the CR and can print to the console as

Re: [DNG] Why do I need xdg-desktop portal?

2022-03-12 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:06:44 +0100 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Hi all, > > I don't use flatpak, so yesterday I removed xdg-desktop-portal from a > machine where it was causing df to err trying to access a fuse mount. > I wandered how came xdg-desktop-portal was installed. > > Today I

Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?

2022-02-24 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:28:57 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > /troll mode NB, for topical reasons: I suggest to check the shasums and correct me, pgpsigned, if I'm wrong. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org ht

Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?

2022-02-24 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:14:19 +0100 aitor wrote: > Only the netinst image requires network connection. This image > contains just the minimal amount of packages to install the base > system; from thereon the remaining packages are installed over the > internet. If you want an up-to-date offline

Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?

2022-02-24 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:14:32 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Let's say, just for fun, that I expected to be permanently > disconnected from the Internet, but still wanted to use my computer, > kind of how I used my computer 1985-1995.

[DNG] basic Linux resources

2022-02-20 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:11:36 + Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 20 February 2022 at 12:57:07, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > > Dear list, > > > > I just want to share the two most important things I learned > > yesterday: > > > > 1.) I can &q

[DNG] "post mortem" (was: Popcorn)

2022-02-20 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Dear list, I just want to share the two most important things I learned yesterday: 1.) I can "delete" files for which I do not have write permissions, if the containing directory is writable by me: || The system deletes files automatically when their reference || counts drops to

Re: [DNG] Popcorn (was: Re: [OT] files disappearing reproducibly)

2022-02-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 23:13:28 +0100 Florian Zieboll wrote: > cum salutis gallicis, PS: Damn, /is/ibus/, I guess... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Popcorn (was: Re: [OT] files disappearing reproducibly)

2022-02-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 17:03:58 -0500 Ken Dibble wrote: > Since you get this in every terminal window, I would look at .bashrc > and .profile, as well as any shortcut that you use to open a terminal. Yeah, thanks, that's how I got it :-) ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] Popcorn (was: Re: [OT] files disappearing reproducibly)

2022-02-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 23:00:59 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > Popcorn florian@nulldevice:~$ cat .bashrc | grep tmp rm -rf ~/tmp/* Thanks for your attention - I hope you had fun ;-) cum salutis gallicis, Florian ___ Dng mailing list

[DNG] Popcorn (was: Re: [OT] files disappearing reproducibly)

2022-02-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 21:59:59 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > root@nulldevice:~# ls -l /home/florian/tmp/test* > -rw-r--r-- 1 florian florian 0 Feb 19 21:11 /home/florian/tmp/test_deletable > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot0 Feb 19 21:19 /home/florian/tmp/test_root >

Re: [DNG] [OT] files disappearing reproducibly

2022-02-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 15:00:11 -0500 Ken Dibble wrote: > I don't know if this error will show up in the logs or not. > > If your filesystem supports extended attributes (i.e. not zfs) > > - > > $ touch cant_delete_me > > $ sudo chattr +i cant_delete_me > > $ rm cant_delete_me > > rm:

Re: [DNG] [OT] files disappearing reproducibly

2022-02-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 20:36:29 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 19:09:15 +0100 > "d...@d404.nl" wrote: > > > > Probably not helpful too but does auth.log show something from the > > use of exec=¨/bin/su" ? > > Yes, as my

Re: [DNG] [OT] files disappearing reproducibly

2022-02-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 19:09:15 +0100 "d...@d404.nl" wrote: > > Probably not helpful too but does auth.log show something from the > use of exec=¨/bin/su" ? Yes, as my standard user is not a "sudoer", I use to get a root shell by 'su'ing into the admin account and then 'sudo su -' from there, so I

Re: [DNG] [OT] files disappearing reproducibly

2022-02-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 12:46:18 -0500 Ken Dibble wrote: > > Probably not helpful but did you check anacrontab? Thank you for the hint, but nothing there but anacronically executed crontab entries... Still helpful, as in the future I will check it earlier :-) libre Grüße, Florian

Re: [DNG] [OT] files disappearing reproducibly

2022-02-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 16:25:54 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > And here the relevant snippet of 'ps axjf': > > PPID PID PGID SID TTY TPGID STAT UID TIME COMMAND > 1 8287 8286 8286 ? -1 Rl1001 0:01 > /usr/bin/qterminal > 8287 8290

[DNG] [OT] files disappearing reproducibly

2022-02-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Hallo list, may I ask for help narrowing down a strange phenomenon? Any files in my personal '~/tmp/' directory just disappear after a couple of minutes. I was able to catch the event with 'auditd' - I seems to be executed in a bash within a qterminal, running as child of PID 1: The

Re: [DNG] Chimaera on Dell Wyse 3040 installs but won't boot

2022-01-27 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Am 27. Januar 2022 11:06:15 MEZ schrieb Mike Tubby : > I have run the installation a second time and paid more attention, when > it installs Grub it doesn't pop a menu asking where I want the boot > loader installed (MBR, first partition,) or providing a list of 'drives' > or block devices to

Re: [DNG] software question

2022-01-26 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:23:50 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > It does assume though that your mail software delivers through your > system's sendmail alternative or, if not, pays attention to that file. > Not sure if things like thunderbird (and libreoffice :-o!) do. The approach with

Re: [DNG] software question

2022-01-24 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 21:44:35 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > (...) Sorry, list, it was not my intension to talk politics here, damn: This had been meant to go offlist! I fell for the "$sendername" (via Dng) in the 'From' header. libre G

Re: [DNG] software question

2022-01-24 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 10:51:09 -0600 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Will have to take a look at this 'constant contact'. As you are considering "cloud based" solutions, depending on your and the recipients' attitude towards "left-wing activism" [1], you might want to have a look at riseup.net: They

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-24 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 17:28:39 -0800 Bruce Perens wrote: > Isn't this one of the things the "dracut" alternative to > initramfs-tools was intended to fix? Hallo Bruce, thank you for the hint: My system just accomplished the second power-on (of two, this time from hibernation) with its new

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 21:20:56 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 20:29:39 +0100 > aitor wrote: > > > If the name swap happens randomly, then the required setting might > > be: > > > > RESUME=none > > > > instead of: > >

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 20:23:51 +0100 tito via Dng wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 15:45:46 +0100 > Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > > > > Hallo list, > > > > after the latest kernel-update (chimaera, from 5.10.0-10-amd64 to > > 5.10.0-11-amd64), my deskt

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 20:29:39 +0100 aitor wrote: > If the name swap happens randomly, then the required setting might be: > > RESUME=none > > instead of: > > resume=UUID= > > in your /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume > > HTH, > > Aitor Thank you Aitor, that was the crucial hint, the

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 20:05:43 +0100 aitor wrote: > Hi, > > On 23/1/22 19:54, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > Returning to kernel 5.10.0-10-amd64 does NOT solve the issue, as > > well as the upgrade to linux-image-5.15.0-0.bpo.2-amd64. > > If you are using sever

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 19:54:34 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > I also just swapped the cables at the two disks: No change. Now the disk with the swap partition appears as sdb, persistent over at least four reboots - so this issue seems to have "dis

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 13:29:11 -0600 Hector Gonzalez Jaime via Dng wrote: > > On 1/21/22 11:03, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:34:28 -0500 > > tempforever wrote: > > > >> Something to check/verify: > >> If swap is listed

Re: [DNG] software question

2022-01-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On January 21, 2022 7:15:06 PM GMT+01:00, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > For a non-profit - - - this is not bulk email for sales - - - - bulk > email for connection. > > Is there a linux program (foss hopefully) that will allow me to do this? > > (Sending regualr emails to a group

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-23 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 12:07:07 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Florian Zieboll via Dng writes: > > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:34:28 -0500 > > tempforever wrote: > > > >> Something to check/verify: > >> If swap is listed in /etc/fstab,

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-21 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:34:28 -0500 tempforever wrote: > Something to check/verify: > If swap is listed in /etc/fstab, then make sure it is listed by UUID > rather than block-id. > I mention this, since I have a (commented out) swap line in /etc/fstab Yes, in the fstab, the swap partition is

[DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-21 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Hallo list, after the latest kernel-update (chimaera, from 5.10.0-10-amd64 to 5.10.0-11-amd64), my desktop's initramfs no longer finds the swap (suspend/resume) partition. Running 'update-initramfs -u' returns the correct UUID "to resume from", and also adding the line resume=UUID=

Re: [DNG] [OT] problem with quemu dnsmasq vs unbound

2022-01-21 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 12:55:04 +0100 al3xu5 via Dng wrote: > > Please, I would ask for your advices about the situation described > below. > > Excuse me if this could be OT in this list. > > On my chimaera system, I am using unbound as a local recursive > caching DNS (not authoritative) server.

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 20:04:13 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Florian: > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:19:57 +0100 (CET) > > k...@aspodata.se wrote: > ... > > > To paraphrase usenix: > > > > > > ;init: > > > > > > but that would be too much of an internal joke. > ... > > I tried with a

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 18:19:57 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Florian: > ... > > I like "init freedom" very much and think, that it's fully > > sufficient resp. that it doesn't need any further comment (nor > > advice). > > > > The only change I would suggest is to add a colon, that it

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 06:01:29 -0600 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 3:55 AM wrote: > > > > Curtis: > > > > On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:49 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-12 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:39:07 +0100 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > On Wed 12/Jan/2022 01:27:45 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > > > I am replying to the list to share the valid (tested) alternative. > > Thanks a lot! > > > Bash st

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-11 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 01:10:11 +0100 Antony Stone wrote: > Double-quoting turns the string into a single token, and therefore > the parser sees the line as: > > token 1 = "unrar x" > token 2 = "$f" > > Without the double quoting, it's: > > token 1 = "unrar" > token 2 =

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-11 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:52:10 -0500 william moss wrote: > Bash is taking the string in the double quotes as a single command; > this is well documented. If either the command or parameters have > spaces, you will have to use eval. Check the bash man page for > details. > > This will also usually

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-11 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:16:15 -0500 tempforever wrote: > I believe quoting $xcmd would instruct the shell to look for and > execute "unrar x" so unless you have an executable file named unrar\ > x within $PATH, it will fail.  The same thing happens within a shell: > ~$ "unrar x" > bash: unrar x:

[DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-11 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Dear list, this im my 'test.sh': #!/bin/bash for f in "$@" ; do xcmd="unrar x" $xcmd "$f" done Can please somebody explain, why, if I double-quote the "$xcmd" variable in line 4, the script fails with ./test.sh: line 4: unrar x: command not found ??? Commands without

Re: [DNG] Printer trouble again. (slight progress)

2022-01-03 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 19:22:44 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > a simple netcat'ed pdf Well, "simple pdf" might be an oxymoron... but 'netcat' vs. 'cupsd' bears an impressive simplification ;-) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.d

Re: [DNG] Printer trouble again. (slight progress)

2022-01-03 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 12:40:24 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > DeviceURI > dnssd://Brother%20HL-3170CDW%20series._ipp._tcp.local/?uuid=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-30055c5516df Hallo Hendrik, as you mentioned "driverless" earlier in this thread: I remember, that "driverless printing" had been mentioned

Re: [DNG] Priter trouble again.

2022-01-03 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Hallo Hendrick, just another possibility: If there's no intermediate print server, grepping your local '/etc/cups/printers.conf' for 'DeviceURI' will reveal the printer's IP address resp. its hostname as well. Libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-18 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On December 18, 2021 2:43:30 PM GMT+01:00, Didier Kryn wrote: > apt-get remove --purge libpulse0 wants to remove the following (which > includes gimp): > > The following packages will be REMOVED: >   atril* audacious* audacious-plugins* blueman* ffmpeg* font-manager* > geeqie* >   gimp*

[DNG] [OT] Re: Embedded devuan (was Re: Devuan with usr merge?)

2021-11-17 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Earlier in this thread, on Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:29:11 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: >     Of course, if you want to install the distro for another > architecture, you must use debootstrap --foreign > > (...) > >     Another experiment with great fun is to just install busybox in a > chroot. > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-15 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 21:19:08 +0100 Antoine via Dng wrote: > > For what it's worth, I can confirm this : I ran a BeagleBoneBlack > build of Devuan for a while and was rather surprised one day to > discover that it had no kernel package installed at all. The kernel > and initramfs where packed

Re: [DNG] mutt and html

2021-10-31 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On October 31, 2021 6:05:26 PM GMT+01:00, Steve Litt wrote: > Florian and Hendrik, > > Would either or both of you be able to give a presentation, on Mutt, at > the GoLUG meeting this coming Wednesday, 7pm New York time? Hallo Steve, sorry for having to let you down: I am not into 'mutt'

Re: [DNG] mutt and html

2021-10-31 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On October 30, 2021 10:13:31 PM GMT+02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I did manage to reconfigure, telling it to use firefox-esr, but that > didn't help much. I connect to my server, the machine on which I run > mutt, using ssh -X. > So firefox on the server detects I already have a firefox

Re: [DNG] white band on top of lxqt screen -- SOLVED

2021-10-30 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On October 30, 2021 12:07:35 AM GMT+02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Turns out menu-clicking on the bar itself provides a menu Haha, nice one! My most-given advice to mouse clickers eager to learn: Wherever you are, use the /other/ button to check for context menus! libre Grüße, f. --

Re: [DNG] a how to question (project(s) related)

2021-08-17 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On August 15, 2021 5:35:58 PM GMT+02:00, tito via Dng wrote: > In conjunction with a physiological process better known as > learning which transforms your brain in the primary > storage for pointers to the information stored in > your papyrus rolls and allows endless recombination > of the

Re: [DNG] another upgrade ascii to beowulf borked

2021-08-03 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 06:44:56 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > I was following the instructions on > https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/upgrade-to-beowulf > and got to the point of doing apt-get dist-upgrade. > > Partway through, it decided, a usual, that it had to stop and restart

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-01 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 1 May 2021 17:11:48 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 30/04/2021 à 15:05, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 14:37:20 +0200, Arnt wrote in message > > <20210430143720.7311bc82@d44>: > > > > > >> https://www.theregister.com/2021/04/29/stealthy_linux_backdoor_malware_spotted/ > >>

Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera

2021-04-21 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:34:34 +0300 Dimitris via Dng wrote: > Στις 21/4/21 2:53 μ.μ., ο/η Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng έγραψε: > > > > The first time around, there will be quite a long list of packages > > that are candidates for removal. Even without a desktop environment > > installed the list can

Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera

2021-04-20 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:10:49 +0200 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Isn't there a way to remove > packages not used for more than one year? Definitely not an approach for automated package removal, but perhaps a valid starting point for decluttering manually: $ find /usr/bin -atime +360 |

Re: [DNG] Chimaera upgrade

2021-04-18 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 21:56:09 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > The upgrade of my still libsystemd-free desktop PC from Ascii to > Chimaera ~2 weeks ago went so smooth that I forgot to mention it: Of course this was an upgrade NOT from Ascii, but from _Beowulf_ to Chimaera, seems

Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera

2021-04-18 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 11:37:58 +0200 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > On Sat 17/Apr/2021 15:37:31 +0200 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > On April 17, 2021 2:33:53 PM GMT+02:00, Alessandro Vesely via Dng > > wrote: > >> > >> Is there a guide, a wiki, rel

Re: [DNG] Advice to migrate from Beowulf to Chimaera

2021-04-17 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On April 17, 2021 2:33:53 PM GMT+02:00, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Hi all, > > I usually prefer to stick on released system, but I'd start working on > OpenSCAD > and the version available is rather oldish. As it has lots of graphical > dependencies, I think it may be easier to

Re: [DNG] why dies apt update need the date?

2021-04-17 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On April 17, 2021 2:03:44 PM GMT+02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Just curious -- what does apt update need the time and date for? > Aren't the version numbes of the packages all it needs? I'd guess that the correct time is required for signature verification. libre Grüße, Florian --

Re: [DNG] FSF and human rights

2021-03-26 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 19:01:47 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > Anno domini 2021 Fri, 26 Mar 18:49:23 +0100 > Didier Kryn scripsit: > >     We are supposedly all here in favour of software freedom and > > freedom in general, which includes freedom of opinions. > > > >     It seems  we have

Re: [DNG] FSF and human rights

2021-03-26 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:07:08 +0100 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Hi All, > > Debian is engaging in a disgusting attack against RMS: Yesterday's mistfits -> today's opressors: A warm welcome to autismophobia! I hope we (as humanity) get this resolved, before the tide turns again to hit

[DNG] Chimaera upgrade

2021-03-25 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
The upgrade of my still libsystemd-free desktop PC from Ascii to Chimaera ~2 weeks ago went so smooth that I forgot to mention it: $ apt update && apt dist-upgrade $ sed -i\.ascii 's/ascii/chimaera/' /etc/apt/sources.list $ apt update && apt upgrade (to install: 223 /

Re: [DNG] Trouble booting Beowulf on an Intel NUC8i5BEK

2021-03-25 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 17:30:14 +1030 dva...@internode.on.net wrote: > Have just taken delivery of an Intel NUC8i5BEK, installed RAM & SSD. > A USB stick with: > $ dd if=~/Downloads/devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso > of=/dev/sdb  bs=512k > looks good mounted on another host, but doesn't

Re: [DNG] Netiquette

2021-03-22 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 22:33:27 + (GMT) Jim Jackson wrote: > well well well. Many thanks for that. And I thought I knew my way > around alpine :-( Glad I could help :-) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] No future?

2021-03-21 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 17:21:43 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > It's still about leaves hanging on the same ol' tree. s/hanging/growing/ :-) Cheerio, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mail

Re: [DNG] No future?

2021-03-20 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 11:15:50 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Florian Zieboll via Dng said on Fri, 19 Mar 2021 13:18:04 +0100 > > >On March 19, 2021 12:18:17 PM GMT+01:00, Florian Zieboll via Dng > > wrote: > > > >> a sphere > > > >Or, lol, should I say: a

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-20 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 15:13:39 +0100 Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > Marc, > > So far, the only factual data does not show any problem, and the only > input stating something is wrong is actually you saying that. Hallo Bernard, perhaps you missed these lines within the mess of pasted output,

Re: [DNG] No future?

2021-03-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 13:43:26 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > Anno domini 2021 Fri, 19 Mar 13:18:04 +0100 > Florian Zieboll via Dng scripsit: > > On March 19, 2021 12:18:17 PM GMT+01:00, Florian Zieboll via Dng > > wrote: > > > > > a sphere &g

Re: [DNG] No future?

2021-03-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 15:00:09 +0100 aitor wrote: > Do you guys still trust Cristóbal Colón? Personally, I prefer Galilei to Columbus: "And yet it moves!" BTW, it was a nice tour de Heidelberg with ~500 colorful bicyclist@s and many friendly people at their windows :-) Now, safe and sound,

Re: [DNG] No future?

2021-03-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On March 19, 2021 12:18:17 PM GMT+01:00, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > a sphere Or, lol, should I say: a curved plane? With best regards from Flatland, Florian -- [message sent otg] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org ht

[DNG] No future?

2021-03-19 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
A friendly reminder: It's friday - for freedom, fun & future! I suggest to consider this information so far off topic, that it hits the nail on the head from behind. Still, our planet is a sphere! libre Grüße :-) -- [message sent otg] ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Advice on a package pinning

2021-03-17 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:18:03 +0100 "Antonio Trkdz.tab" wrote: > Thank you Florian for your good advice on pinning strategy. > What I am really scared of is if having installed different gcc > packages could screw up my system. > Does your strategy take into account this, i.e. is your suggestion

Re: [DNG] Netiquette

2021-03-17 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:53:58 + (GMT) Jim Jackson wrote: > for the record alpine is broken in that area. As far as I can make > out it just uses the subject line to "thread" emails (modulo the > various "re:"s etc) It's a while ago that I used (al)pine (in fact, it was still pine back then,

Re: [DNG] Advice on a package pinning

2021-03-17 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:49:56 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:00:19 +0100 > "Antonio Trkdz.tab via Dng" wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I could use some advice on a package pinning which I have set. > > I need a version

Re: [DNG] Advice on a package pinning

2021-03-17 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:00:19 +0100 "Antonio Trkdz.tab via Dng" wrote: > Hello all, > > I could use some advice on a package pinning which I have set. > I need a version of ripgrep (>11.0) only available in Ceres repos. > Hence, I enabled the ceres repo in my sources.list file and I pinned > all

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-16 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Just to doube check for "human error": Does the output of 'df' match with the output of 'du -sc /path/to/mountpoint/'? -- [message sent otg] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] rm not freeing space

2021-03-15 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:39:51 -0700 Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote: > > On 3/14/21 8:33 PM, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > > Run fsck to make sure your disk isn't corrupted or damaged. > > Afterward, your lost+found might get populated with the stuff that > > occupies the space, done so in order for you

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-10 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 22:07:07 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > What I was talking about upthread was outsourcing one's recursive > nameservice to OpenNIC's public recursive nameserver IPs, or any other > stranger's. Because, well, why? Recursive service is dead-easy to do > with one's local computing

Re: [DNG] Jitsi-meet server in DMZ

2021-03-09 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 23:02:11 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 4:00 PM, Florian Zieboll via Dng > wrote: > > > On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 14:18:34 + > > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > >

Re: [DNG] Jitsi-meet server in DMZ

2021-03-09 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 14:18:34 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > The meeting being hosted on the server needs to be simultaneously > accessible as two different domains, internal.com and external.com. > > Anyone achieved this yet or know a better way ? Not sure if "better", but works for me: I

[DNG] was: Re: web conferencing software

2021-03-08 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 20:00:46 +1100 wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > What’s the consensus on Quad9? Are they any better from a privacy > standpoint? I personally do not trust any of the DNS-providers with such easy- to-remember IP addresses. Also, if you want unfiltered results from Quad9, you

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-06 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 12:45:41 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 04:27:21 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > >I /had/ Jitsi Meet running (w/o local turn server and jigasi) on a > > >Odroid XU-4 with 2GB RAM. Tested with up to four participants

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