Re: [DNG] Caching leads to unresponsiveness

Am 2017-08-11 17:43, schrieb Joachim Fahrner: Linux uses all available more Should be "memory", not "more" ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Caching leads to unresponsiveness

Linux uses all available more for caching of filesystems. When copying large files to slow network filesystems (nfs, smb, sshfs, davfs) it takes a long time until such allocated memory becomes free. When these network filesystems saturate memory linux becomes very unresponsive. It can take

Re: [DNG] Switching

Am 2017-08-05 11:28, schrieb Weaver: Currently running Debian SID, with separate /, swap, and /home partitions. I don't suppose switching is as easy as simply replacing the / partition with a new install, preserving the old data? Yes it is easy. Choose the same partition layout in the

Re: [DNG] flash player for browser

Am 2017-07-26 20:01, schrieb Haines Brown: So then how do I access the database? The files I need to access are newspaper images. You can try Google Chrome (not Chromium). AFAIK that's the only browser for Linux that still supports Flash. ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

Am 2017-07-24 20:34, schrieb Hendrik Boom: How much source code actually cares whether pointers are 32 or 64 bits? Clean written code should not care about pointers or integers are 32 or 64 bit or byte order. Code written in a higher language should run on any hardware, otherwise I call it

Re: [DNG] Devuan lightdm greeter

Am 2017-07-22 09:09, schrieb Joachim Fahrner: On new devuan Jessie installs there is a nice looking lightdm greeter (Devuan theme). How can I install this greeter on old installations? I found it myown. It is not lightdm, it is slim with theme devuan-curve-purpy. Jochen

[DNG] Devuan lightdm greeter

On new devuan Jessie installs there is a nice looking lightdm greeter (Devuan theme). How can I install this greeter on old installations? Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Extreme mail delay

Since a few days I'm getting very old mails from this list. Below is an example Header of such a mail. Someone should have a look at the mail queue at tupac2.dyne.org. Received by tupac2.dyne.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42FD118AB89 for ; Tue, 25 APR 2017 14:08:05 + (UTC)

Re: [DNG] WICD & DNS & IPv6

Am 2017-07-19 22:21, schrieb Antony Stone: Also, "some network problems" is not a very helpful bug report :) If you're going to say that something doesn't work properly, please at least say *how* it doesn't work properly... I'm sorry, but I did not have the time to investigate this

Re: [DNG] WICD & DNS & IPv6

Am 2017-07-19 20:48, schrieb KatolaZ: Which Devuan release are you using? Jessie A de-systemd-ised network-manager is in jessie for sure. Is this new? tried it, seems to work, but there are some network problems. Switched back to wicd. If you don't want anybody to change the DNS

Re: [DNG] VBScript Injection via GNOME Thumbnailer

Am 2017-07-18 09:39, schrieb Rick Moen: OTOH, clearly the parser code in /usr/bin/gnome-exe-thumbnailer is rubbish, as it shouldn't be possible to fool it into processing embedded VBSCript in a filename. That's the point. All these things made by Poettering, Gnome Team, Read Hat ... are

[DNG] VBScript Injection via GNOME Thumbnailer

Another nice bug in Gnome: http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/posts/gnome-thumbnailer-msi-fail.html Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Linus can no longer trust "init"

Am 2017-07-12 00:00, schrieb Dragan FOSS: Btw...Linux Is Not UniX ;) Then replace "unix" in my post with "un*x" ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix-like Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] What is GNU/Linux?

My understanding is, that Linux is the kernel, and GNU is the userland. Is systemd part of GNU/Linux? If not, how do we call a systemd Linux? Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Linus can no longer trust "init"

Am 2017-07-11 20:35, schrieb Dragan FOSS: Do you want to say that devuan users do not need any upstream that recommends systemd? For example, Postgresql? *** With PostgreSQL 9.6 or newer, it is recommended to build with --with-systemd and use the unit file shown in the documentation... ***

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

Am 2017-07-09 17:10, schrieb Edward Bartolo: I have been running Devuan since August of two years ago, and I do not regret it. Being forced to do Linux the way seen from above, would have definitely killed my motivation to use a different OS completely. Devuan is giving me freedom; Devuan is

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-05 11:51, schrieb Rick Moen: Glad to hear it! I've been too early pleased - problem still exists. I now forward dyne.org to Google DNS. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-05 10:47, schrieb Rick Moen: edns-buffer-size: ... tation reassembly problems, usually seen as timeouts, then a value of 1480 can fix it. I did some more tests (ping ns.dyne.org with different packet sizes) and found that 1480 is

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-05 10:47, schrieb Rick Moen: edns-buffer-size: Number of bytes size to advertise as the EDNS reassembly buffer size. This is the value put into datagrams over UDP towards peers. The actual buffer size is determined by

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-05 09:43, schrieb Joachim Fahrner: Jul 5 09:37:46 server unbound: [22751:0] info: NSEC3s for the referral proved no DS. Could it be that my problem has to do with DNSSEC? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-05 09:24, schrieb Joachim Fahrner: I now increased unbounds verbosity and see if there is further information in the log. Some more info. unbounds verbosity level is now 2. I did a "dig tupac2.dyne.org", which had a timeout. This is in the log: Jul 5 09:37:29 serv

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-05 09:08, schrieb Rick Moen: So, in general terms, I certainly encourage your approach. It's not obvious from present evidence why you are getting timeouts querying your local recursive nameserver. You'll have to do further diagnosis locally. (Lacking any better ideas at the

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-05 08:51, schrieb Rick Moen: I believe you said that you are running an instance of Unbound as a local recursive nameserver. If so, I hope you are listing it first in /etc/resolv.conf (perhaps by localhost IP). Anyway, that's where you should start looking, to find your problem.

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-05 00:18, schrieb Rick Moen: On a quick, broad check, dyne.org DNS seems robust. There are three network-diverse authoritative nameservers (refreshing to see after observing far too many domains attempting to get by with two, when RFCs require 3-7 auth nameservers[1]), all

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-04 18:27, schrieb Alessandro Selli: I'm afraid this has to do with the DNS server you're using (;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1), that is), as I get these values: Enter "dyne.org" here: http://www.dnsqueries.com/en/dns_lookup.php and select "ALL". That delivers the same

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-04 18:27, schrieb Alessandro Selli: I'm afraid this has to do with the DNS server you're using (;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1), that is), as I get these values: [alessandro@draco ~]$ dig tupac2.dyne.org ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-9+deb8u11-Debian <<>> tupac2.dyne.org ;; global options:

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-04 15:37, schrieb Alessandro Selli: I really wonder what did mxtoolbox.com check, as I cannot see what dns.org and shockmedia.com have to do with dyne.org: That's strange. Something in my test changed dyne.org magically to dns.org. But that was not me, I used cut ;-) The

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

Am 2017-07-04 12:46, schrieb Alessandro Selli: I still think it's a bug that systemd runs a process as root when adduser is configured to prevent creation of a user with a given name but such a user does exist. Next step probably will be to supersede unix user management and integrate it

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-04 09:39, schrieb Joachim Fahrner: Could it be that dyne.org name servers have temporary connection problems? When checking dns for tupac2.dyne.org I get 1 error and 3 warnings: https://mxtoolbox.com/domain/tupac2.dns.org/ E https dns.org The Certificate has

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

Am 2017-07-03 22:27, schrieb Gregory Nowak: I'm not seeing this here, and the A record for tupac2.dyne.org resolves correctly. Could there be a DNS issue on your end perhaps? Normally name resolution works fine, and tupac2.dyne.org is the only server with such errors in my postfix log. I'm

[DNG] Listserver configuration

Hello, I get lots of those errors in my postfix log: Jul 3 18:09:16 server postfix/smtpd[2840]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from tupac2.dyne.org[178.62.188.7]: 450 4.7.1 : Helo command rejected: Host not found; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= Is there

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

Am 2017-07-03 17:34, schrieb dev: useradd and adduser work differently. One allows it, the other does not. Just thought 'why not make them work the same?'. That's all. That's right, that's a bug. They should work the same, and they should follow POSIX-rules, not Poettering-rules. Jochen

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

Am 2017-07-03 16:08, schrieb dev: Sounds like a "won't fix", too: "So, yeah, I don't think there's anything to fix in systemd here." - Poettering Not sure what's more troubling here[1]; the lack of concern, the digression from POSIX, or the bug/backdoor itself. Maybe all three. useradd

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

Am 2017-06-30 19:16, schrieb Steve Litt: Would it be possible for you to install OpenRC from upstream source? I know that's easily doable with runit or s6, but I know little about OpenRC. I'm wondering why there are lots of discussions about init systems. What is wrong with sysv init? My

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

Am 2017-06-30 07:53, schrieb Alessandro Selli: Maybe it's me, but what the hell is a DNS resolver doing inside an init system? systemd is _NOT_ an init system. That's a mythos. Systemd started as an init system, but evolved step-by-step to a monolithic low level Linux userland. It's

Re: [DNG] reverse-engineering systemd is fighting strategic incompetence.

Am 2017-06-27 16:02, schrieb Steve Litt: I know if I were a real programmer... real programmers can write Fortran programs in ANY language ;-) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Eye candy: I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Am 2017-06-22 18:34, schrieb Steve Litt: I very well could be insane, but I've always thought that Windowmaker is extremely beautiful. I don't understand Windowmaker, and I can't get it to do what I need, but when it comes to eye candy, I find Windowmaker the best. Windowmaker is also

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Am 2017-06-21 14:44, schrieb KatolaZ: Steve Jobs understood that users must be won with eyecandies, and on that side we will never be able to beat Apple. That's very right, but you missed 2 points: Apple makes this eyecandy not only in software, but also in hardware. And they made their

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Am 2017-06-20 20:38, schrieb Hendrik Boom: We have enough work being an "ugly" "third party workaround" for Debian. :-D ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Am 2017-06-20 18:58, schrieb KatolaZ: What could be relevant is that, as several people have already pointed out, GNOME 3 is still available for platforms in which systemd is not present (e.g., FreeBSD: https://www.freebsd.org/gnome/). The main problem in having "that" GNOME 3 in Devuan is the

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Hi Didier, Am 2017-06-19 12:10, schrieb Didier Kryn: I'm allways surprised when people seem to find Gnome is compelling. I never found it compelling. A dozen years ago I moved to KDE, because Gnome was so ugly. Later I turned back to Gnome when KDE went crazy; then Gnome-3 went mental also

Re: [DNG] what looks for gsettings?

Am 2017-06-19 00:41, schrieb Haines Brown: When I boot, just before the log in prompt is the message: "-bash: gsettings: command not found" Most system scripts are located in /etc. Try searching for it there with: find /etc -type f | xargs fgrep gsettings

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Am 2017-06-18 12:08, schrieb info at smallinnovations dot nl: Expanding to that we can even make a libsystemd0 that actually works with any init system (except systemd) for all relevant init parts and to all other calls answering that systemd is not present. I think most of you are wrong

Re: [DNG] An option should be provided in the installer for avahi and friends

Am 2017-06-16 02:10, schrieb taii...@gmx.com: "rpc.statd A daemon that listens for reboot notifications from other hosts, and manages the list of hosts to be notified when the local system reboots" I see no reason as to why this should be turned on or even installed by default rpc.statd is

Re: [DNG] Onscreen keyboard

, but is in some way in conflict with openbox or tint2. When Florence is running, the panel is dead. Am 2017-06-07 16:23, schrieb aitor_czr: > Hi Joachim, El 07/06/17 a las 14:00, Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> > escribió: > > On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 02:41:04PM +0200, Joa

Re: [DNG] Devuan ready VPS?

Am 2017-06-07 17:09, schrieb Emiliano Marini: Not viable on most VPS providers, specially if they use OpenVZ or custom kernels/filesystems on the VMs. That's only possible under a full virtualisation platform. Look for a hoster that uses KVM. Here in Germany there are lots of them.

Re: [DNG] Devuan ready VPS?

Am 2017-06-07 16:12, schrieb Emiliano Marini: Hi all, I wonder if there is already any VPS provider supporting Devuan? You can rent a VPS with Debian and migrate to Devuan following this guide: https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Upgrade-to-Devuan I did this

[DNG] Onscreen keyboard

Hi all, can someone recommend an onscreen keyboard (for use in tablet mode) with low dependencies and no systemd? Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] git.devuan.org migration

Am 2017-05-17 09:41, schrieb Jaromil: As we go forward extending Devuan's infrastructure, we kindly ask everyone interested in supporting this project to consider running a server for one of the many services we have running. I have some disk space and bandwidth left on my server (running

Re: [DNG] reportbug default bts

Am 2017-05-15 06:36, schrieb Steve Litt: Perhaps not in De**an, but in other distros, I've seen things go to hell in a handbasket when trying to upgrade to the next major version. I think here is a little bit confusion about what a "dist-upgrade" is and does. It *can* be used for upgrade to a

Re: [DNG] reportbug default bts

Am 2017-05-14 08:23, schrieb KatolaZ: again, there is nothing to fear in dist-upgrade... That's right. I'm using Debian/Devuan since many years and never had a problem with dist-upgrade. I'm wondering about this myth that dist-upgrade could break something. dist-upgrade has the same effect

[DNG] sane-utils depends on libsystemd0

I found another package that depends on libsystemd0: sane-utils. Would it be difficult to remove this dependency, or is there a valid reason for having this? Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] GTK3 and systemd

Am 2017-05-04 17:22, schrieb Radagast: Now that you mention it, I recall I read somewhere that GTK2 is still receiving secrity updates. So, that might be an option... I would also vote for gtk2. gtk3 ist strictly bound to Gnome 3 and changes every few days, breaking current themes. Jochen

Re: [DNG] devuan install experience

Am 2017-04-26 21:37, schrieb Bruce Perens: Devuan Jessie installed without an issue on my Panasonic Toughbook CF-19. The main user experience issue so far is that it doesn't seem to install any way to handle wifi, and WICD doesn't seem ready for prime time as a WiFi manager. wicd works fine

Re: [DNG] Why I don't want to have Pöttersoft on my system

Am 2017-04-17 17:11, schrieb goli...@dyne.org: "maybe handover dev of this toy to someone with unix experience" LOL! My favourite rant was from Linus Torvalds: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/05/torvalds_sievers_dust_up/ Jochen ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Why I don't want to have Pöttersoft on my system

Am 2017-04-17 11:18, schrieb Klaus Ethgen: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5644 No further comment needed. Have fun reading. (Found on popular fefe blog) ROTFL Stupid question: why does systemd implement a rm command? They sold us

Re: [DNG] grub background image

Am 2017-04-10 00:39, schrieb fsmithred: desktop-base is supposed to handle that, but it's not cooperating. You can bypass it by adding the following (one) line to /etc/default/grub GRUB_THEME=/usr/share/desktop-base/grub-themes/desktop-grub-them/theme.txt Thank you for that hint. The

Re: [DNG] Fwd: init system agnosticism [WAS: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system]

Am 2017-04-13 04:32, schrieb Hendrik Boom: Devuan is about choice. Therefore, it should make available (1) the choice to do without systemd and (2) the choice to use systemd. This is impossible with a binary distribution. systemd is not only an init system, it pervades the whole system. You

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

Am 2017-04-10 00:39, schrieb Daniel Abrecht: I think automatically mounting thumb drives is very different from mounting them when I klick on them in my file manager. Things like automatically mounting removable medias or even auto starting applications, I don't want that. I also don't like

[DNG] grub background image

Hi, how is the grub background image set on Devuan? I'm missing a background image, I have only the default blue background in grub. I studied /etc/grub.d/05_debian_themes, but there are lots of variables I don't know. ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

Am 2017-04-09 10:43, schrieb Florian Zieboll: I use spacefm. With some config-tweaking it is a perfect (and much more flexible) replacement for pcmanfm and alike: Thanks for that hint. SpaceFM in conjunction with udevil is great. So I can get rid of this ugly gvfs. gfvs is broken by design,

[DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

Hi, how can I get rid of libsystemd0? gvfs depends on it, and without gvfs PCmanFM does not mount external usb drives. Is there a way to user mount external drives without gvfs? Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] files.devua.org cert expired

Am 2017-04-07 14:10, schrieb Miroslav Rovis: Is this being worked on, because this is still the case? And it's very ugly... What users see in their browsers is the usual awful, hidious warning I'm wondering why they don't use Letsencrypt and use certbot for automatic renewal.

[DNG] No action on lid close with xfce4-power-manager

I have a simple openbox desktop and installed xfce4-power-manager. It handles most events fine (battery, brightness) but there is no action on lid close. The net is full of those reports, but most have to do with systemd/logind, which we don't have on Devuan. Any ideas what could be wrong in

Re: [DNG] Error: could not find a distribution template for Devuan/jessie

Am 2017-03-29 13:11, schrieb Héctor A. Abreu: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/hollywood/ppa/ubuntu jessie main # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/hollywood/ppa/ubuntu jessie main Err http://ppa.launchpad.net jessie/main i386 Packages 404 Not Found Lauchnpad PPAs are for Ubuntu, not for

Re: [DNG] surf segmentation fault

Now I compiled the latest version from git with symbols and did a backtrace under gdb: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0xaa5c5a00 in ?? () (gdb) backtrace #0 0xaa5c5a00 in ?? () #1 0xfffb in ?? () #2 0xae3d99c0 in ?? () #3 0xaa5c59eb in ?? () #4 0xabc51f1c in ?? ()

Re: [DNG] surf segmentation fault

Am 18.03.2017 um 23:41 schrieb Steve Litt: > 64 bit, and it's Surf 0.7. That confirms my theory that only 32 bit systems are affected. Do you have a 32 bit system at hand and can proove that? -- Mit besten Grüßen Joachim Fahrner ___ Dng mail

Re: [DNG] surf segmentation fault

Am 2017-03-18 18:18, schrieb Steve Litt: I was hoping I could reproduce your problem. My Surf is no angel, it sometimes hangs and sometimes vanishes, but it pulled up that website perfectly. Hi Steve, is your system 32-bit or 64-bit? I think the issue is 32-bit related. Jochen

Re: [DNG] surf segmentation fault

some data type mismatch in some C function call. Maybe the problem is in webkit? -- Mit besten Grüßen Joachim Fahrner ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] surf segmentation fault

it's an issue with i386? -- Mit besten Grüßen Joachim Fahrner ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] surf segmentation fault

Please can someone try to load http://www.dhl.de with surf? I get a segmentation fault when opening this page. That happens woth both, the version from stable and the version from backports. Regards Jochen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

Am 2017-03-15 02:37, schrieb Steve Litt: Can somebody please make a list, that we can put our names on, of people who left Debian because of systemd? And put the name Steve Litt on it please. Mee too. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

Am 2017-03-14 12:34, schrieb Brad Campbell: +10 for privoxy. Does a great job of ad-removal for me and one instance does the whole house :) I agree, privoxy is really fine. I consider using it for my old Asus eeePC. This netbook is a bit too slow with chromium. But there is one problem and

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

Am 2017-03-13 22:13, schrieb Steve Litt: A bad idea, because your browser expects some sort of response. It's better to replace unwanted content with a small transparent gif. How do you do that? You can use pixelserv on some machine in your network that is always on, or simply run it on

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

Am 2017-03-12 19:10, schrieb goli...@dyne.org: Can any of these alternative adblocking tools block elements within a page? AdblockPlus allows for that and I use it almost every day. What do you mean with "elements wihin a page"? Every ad is loaded through a url, and if the host of this url

Re: [DNG] Debian becomes sorry state of broken distribution.

one working one fortunately: 3.16 > kernel with virtualbox 4.3. > Don't blame Debian, blame Virtualbox. Try VMware Workstation Player. Long time ago I switched from Virtualbox to VMware, because it was so buggy. -- Mit besten Grüßen Joachim Fahrner __

[DNG] Devuan on Odroid C2

I just installed Devuan on Odroid C2 with success. Install Maverics Debian Jessie: http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?t=19403 Then follow this guide: https://talk.devuan.org/t/migrating-from-debian-to-a-minimalist-devuan/181 -- Mit besten Grüßen Joachim Fahrner

[DNG] libsystemd0 dependencies

Hi all, I tried to remove libsystemd0 but I found 2 packages depend on libsystemd0: php5-fpm and transmission-daemon. Is there a reason why these packages need libsystemd? -- Mit besten Grüßen Joachim Fahrner ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Backports priority

s is a default in Debian. In Devuan this is not a default, so I accidently upgraded ALL packages :-( https://wiki.debianforum.de/Backports /"Man braucht dabei (seit Squeeze) keine Angst mehr vor unerwarteten Aktualisierungen haben, da keine Backports automatisch installiert werden"

Re: [DNG] Backports priority

database format. After downgrade I had to install mysql-server from backports to make it work again. -- Mit besten Grüßen Joachim Fahrner ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Backports priority

Joachim Fahrner ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng