Am 2017-06-20 18:58, schrieb KatolaZ:
What could be relevant is that, as several people have already pointed
out, GNOME 3 is still available for platforms in which systemd is not
present (e.g., FreeBSD: https://www.freebsd.org/gnome/). The main
problem in having "that" GNOME 3 in Devuan is the availability of a
sufficient number (which I cannot quantify, but would probably be >1)
of maintainers who are willing to delve into the FreeBSD port, and
transform that huge thing into a viable set of deb packages which play
well with the stuff currently present in Devuan (ascii?
beowulf?). This is totally doable, if people really want GNOME 3 in
Devuan.

I disagree. This should be a task for gnome developers, if they want to be compatible with non-systemd systems (FreeBSD, Devuan...). If they don't, then forget Gnome. ANY developer outside of the gnome team will ALWAYS be behind the actual development, resulting in unstable ports. I would not accept such ugly "third party workarounds".

Jochen
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