Re: [DNG] Lennart now working for Microsoft

2022-07-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 7/14/22 12:04, Peter Duffy wrote: [snip] M$ and IBM haven't always been rivals - worth remembering that OS/2 was originally a joint venture. Then they decided to go their separate ways and fork the OS/2 project: IBM carried on developing OS/2; M$ hacked their version into Windows 95 (remember

[DNG] Compiler differs from the one used to build the kernel

2022-04-28 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
When trying to build some DKMS modules manually, I run into the following fatal error when running 'make' warning: the compiler differs from the one used to build the kernel The kernel was built by: gcc-11 (Debian 11.2.0-20) 11.2.0 You are using: gcc-11 (Debian 11.3.0-1) 11.3.0

[DNG] NetworkManager Applet 1.24.0 on daedalus quite broken with multiple interfaces

2022-03-11 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
It appears that the NetworkManager Applet 1.24.0 built into XFCE4 on daedalus is quite broken and can't route properly across multiple interfaces. Indeed the icon only shows a single interface even if "route -n" shows the other. If I add additional interfaces then NetworkManager adds those and

[DNG] OpenPGP key for Devuan Release ISOs?

2022-02-25 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
I see that the ISO images are signed. I've tried to fetch the signing key[1] again, $ gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net \ --recv-key E032601B7CA10BC3EA53FA81BB23C00C61FC752C $ gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net \ --recv-key BB23C00C61FC752C $ gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net \ --search-keys

Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs

2022-01-22 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/21/22 22:26, Hendrik Boom wrote: [snip] Whatever the licence then, it seems to have ended up with a sufficiently free licence for Intel to put a copy of it in the management engine in their CPUs for the last decade or so *without informing Tannenbaum*. Tannenbaum was miffed; he said the

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/19/22 21:46, goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2022-01-19 12:50, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: On 1/17/22 23:17, goli...@devuan.org wrote: [snip]> This is not a trivial task. The many pieces that need to be coordinated are described in this HOW-TO: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-19 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/17/22 23:17, goli...@devuan.org wrote: [snip]> This is not a trivial task. The many pieces that need to be coordinated are described in this HOW-TO: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics/theming-devuan.md [snip] What quality of display(s) and color

Re: [DNG] Genuine, legitimate Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video: Was: Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

2022-01-16 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/16/22 22:58, Steve Litt wrote: [snip] Now, does anybody have anything to say about the CONTENT of the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCr_KFl41E ? Yes, it was quite interesting to hear about what a nice working environment there used to be and the talent that was active there,

Re: [DNG] Lead or follow? this decade’s dilemma for GNU/Linux based ICT industry

2021-12-30 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 12/30/21 10:36, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 30/12/2021 à 07:53, Steve Litt a écrit : The one improvement I can suggest with the article is to define all acronyms once within the text. Because I'm from North America, I call it "IT", and it took 10 minutes of looking up to find out that "ICT" is a

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-26 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/25/21 17:11, Steve Litt wrote: [snip] Imagine if they made a car with the engine compartment welded shut, and gave you a little cockpit in the passenger compartment to control a robot inside the engine compartment that would do maintenance and repairs. That's not too far off from new

Re: [DNG] What not to back up

2021-11-23 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/23/21 21:27, Hendrik Boom wrote: I'm setting up a new backup script that will do it all piecemeal so that if a part of it fails, it can be retried without having to start *everythng* over from scratch. [snip] It depends on what you've set up. For the systems I have, I only back up the

Re: [DNG] pkexec in Chimaera

2021-11-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/14/21 20:44, tempforever wrote: Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: [snip] On 11/8/21 05:12, tempforever wrote: > You say that sudoedit will run the editor itself under the unprivileged account; however, it appears it does run as root: [snip] Yes, I say that, but I got it from the manual p

Re: [DNG] nano hard line wrap

2021-11-13 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/13/21 19:41, Haines Brown wrote: I was left frustrated when nano 4.0 dropped hard line wrap as the default. But I have had no luck re-implementing it. I'm running nan 5.4-2. Man nanorc says there is the set/unset nowrap. I tried unset nowrap, but it had no effect. How do I recover a

Re: [DNG] nano hard line wrap

2021-11-13 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/13/21 19:41, Haines Brown wrote: [snip] > How do I recover a hard wrrap at 70 in nano? Isn't that done with 'set breaklonglines' now? /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] pkexec in Chimaera

2021-11-07 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/8/21 05:12, tempforever wrote: [snip]> Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: You could consider running sudoedit instead. That will allow you to edit a file as root (or any other designated account) while still running the editor itself under the unprivileged account. One should not run graphi

Re: [DNG] pkexec in Chimaera

2021-11-07 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/7/21 21:19, tempforever wrote: [snip]> Actually I'll probably switch to a text-based editor for this particular case, but in general, for GUI applications, how is this done now? [snip] You could consider running sudoedit instead. That will allow you to edit a file as root (or any other

Re: [DNG] a how to question (project(s) related)

2021-08-17 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 8/17/21 10:39 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: [snip] > I've lost all my earier works on amiga and plus4 due to bitrotting - > I sold the hardware when I realised everyting on floppy dodn't even > last some years. The life span of various storage media under various storage conditions was (and

Re: [DNG] End of free open source software?

2021-05-09 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 5/9/21 12:57 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:18:47 +0200, Dr. wrote in message > <202105090918.47488.off...@klepp.biz>: > >> Hi! >> >> Anno domini 2021 Sun, 9 May 08:33:05 +0200 >> tito via Dng scripsit: >>> Hi to all, >>> today while reading online my selection of

Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-03-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 3/27/21 5:33 AM, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:30:45PM +0200, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >> I'm looking at an ARM image for Beowulf, but cannot find where the >> default password is annotated. It's not on either of these pages: >>

Re: [DNG] Dng Subscription results

2021-03-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 3/26/21 4:54 PM, Dimitris via Dng wrote: [snip] > for mailman it might also be possible to just send an email to > dng-j...@lists.dyne.org Thanks. That helped. Regards, Lars OpenPGP_0xDEF20AB6653CEAE7.asc Description: application/pgp-keys OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital

[DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-03-26 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
I'm looking at an ARM image for Beowulf, but cannot find where the default password is annotated. It's not on either of these pages: https://arm-files.devuan.org/ https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan And no README file seems to be present. What is the default user/password for

Re: [DNG] Dng Subscription results

2021-03-26 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 3/26/21 4:10 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 26 March 2021 at 14:59:26, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > >> I am trying to subscribe a different account so I can unsubscribe this >> one. However, when submitting the new address to the web form [1], I >> get the follow

[DNG] Dng Subscription results

2021-03-26 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
I am trying to subscribe a different account so I can unsubscribe this one. However, when submitting the new address to the web form [1], I get the following error and apparently no action towards subscription: Dng Subscription results Invalid captcha: invalid-input-response Regards, Lars [1]

Re: [DNG] Netiquette

2021-03-04 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
There are also some informal Netiquette Guidelines from October 1995 in the form of RFC 1855: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855#section-3.0 Section 3 covers one-to-many communications. /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] How to firewall on Devuan?

2021-02-24 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 2/24/21 2:01 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm now at the stage where I need a firewall on my Devuan VM guest, > and I don't know how to do it. I have the iptables package installed, > and /usr/sbin/iptables is a command, but I have no idea where to go > from there. Is there a file that

Re: [DNG] Devuan wallpaper licensing?

2021-01-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/27/21 10:43 PM, Bruce Perens via Dng wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:30 AM wrote: >> On 2021-01-27 12:51, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Which licenses are relevant for contributing wallpapers to the distro? >>> &

[DNG] Devuan wallpaper licensing?

2021-01-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
Greetings, Which licenses are relevant for contributing wallpapers to the distro? Would CC BY-ND [1] be the most appropriate, for photos? What about CC BY-NC-ND [2] or is there an established license already chosen? /Lars [1] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/ [2]

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 10/28/20 12:47 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting John Crisp via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > [snip much-appreciated picture of behind-the-scenes management > folderol at Thunderbird Project:] > >> The problem is decent alternatives are not great [...] > > Just in case people have lost track of

Re: [DNG] mssh not working (Chimaera)

2020-10-02 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 10/2/20 5:09 PM, Dimitri Minaev via Dng wrote: [snip] > If you could offer an alternative that provides synchronized input to a > number of SSH sessions, I'd be glad to hear your opinion. I know that > similar capabilities are found in Terminator and my favorite Konsole, but > they are not as

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-05 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 8/4/20 3:58 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: [...]> Normally, I use the Zoom app on my Android tablet, where I keep no > critical information. If video is not needed, then consider using Mumble [1]. It is exceptionally easy to set up, both from the client perspective and the user perspective. There

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-15 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/15/20 3:37 AM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:30:39PM +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote: >> Which is still quiet high. I would advise to renew the thermal paste on >> your processor. I can recommend Arctic Silver 5 AS5-3.5G Thermal Paste. >> Made a difference of another 20°C on

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/14/20 2:03 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 14-06-2020 12:53, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >> On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: >>> On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >>>> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice >>

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice >> that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about >> 25°C the cores seem to run much

[DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or hotter. The system is not really under any load. What should I be looking at to

[DNG] Patch for /etc/os-release on ascii

2019-08-23 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
It might help to have the same level of detail for /etc/os-release on both ascii and beowulf. That would allow a more standardized approach to automatically detecting the versions. Perhaps the same should apply to jessie, too. /Lars diff /etc/os-release /etc/os-release.orig 3,5d2 <

Re: [DNG] Qemu with Beowulf host / Ascii guest dies without much of an error message

2019-08-16 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 8/12/19 4:00 PM, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: [snip] > Well, a slightly irrelevant, and perhaps well known observation: I have > come to think that the most flexible networking for my local VM's is the > "vde mode". It does need a small amount of initial plumbing, with a > (single) supporting

Re: [DNG] Qemu with Beowulf host / Ascii guest dies without much of an error message

2019-08-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 8/12/19 1:42 PM, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Lars Noodén via Dng wrote on 12/8/19 8:07 pm: >> [snip] >> -net user,hostfwd=tcp::-:22 \ >> -net user,hostfwd=tcp::8880-:80 \ >> -net user,hostfwd=tcp::4443-:443 \ >>

[DNG] Qemu with Beowulf host / Ascii guest dies without much of an error message

2019-08-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
I've installed Ascii in a Qemu VM and qemu dies each and every time I try to connect to it using SSH via a forwarded port. This crash also happens each and every time with other Guests, such as CentOS 7, and with either Ascii or Beowulf as a host. It also happens with known working Qemu VMs

Re: [DNG] Installing fresh copy of x86_64 Beowulf?

2019-07-31 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 7/28/19 6:33 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2019-07-28 09:29, rgsid...@sunrise.ch wrote: >> Hi, with the actual image, I encountered only one problem. I tried to >> install it from a USB-stick, but the installer mixed up the partitions >> and installed on /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sda. You

[DNG] Installing fresh copy of x86_64 Beowulf?

2019-07-28 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
Is there a current guide to installing Beowulf on a fresh machine in one move? Or must Ascii go first and then followed by an in-place upgrade? /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Review: Intro to Devuan GNU+Linux, A Great Operating System without Systemd

2019-05-18 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
Ubuntu Buzz has a nice review of Devuan: "Intro to Devuan GNU+Linux, A Great Operating System without Systemd" http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2019/05/intro-to-devuan-gnulinux-great-operating-system-without-systemd.html It seems like a decent, positive review and covers the

[DNG] [solved] Re: python-qt5

2019-05-01 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 5/1/19 4:01 PM, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Lars Noodén via Dng wrote on 1/5/19 10:44 pm: >> How would I find python-qt5 for beowulf or pull it in from the >> corresponding Debian repository? >> >> /Lars > did you mean python-pyqt5 ? > > Ralp

[DNG] python-qt5

2019-05-01 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
How would I find python-qt5 for beowulf or pull it in from the corresponding Debian repository? /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 4/12/19 6:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: [snip] > The problem with the phrase "freedom of init choice" is that it appears > to say that one could choose systemd. > > We need to be clear that we are promoting freedom by providing > alternatives to systemd, and that users that choose systemd can >

Re: [DNG] The 1st Devuan conference kicks off tomorrow afternoon!

2019-04-07 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 4/7/19 4:53 PM, Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote: > We've had a number of excellent talks which have been recorded and > can be seen at https://www.youtube.com/user/DyneOrg. Thanks for posting the recordings. The sound isn't always the best but I am quite grateful that some people planned to

Re: [DNG] Update on the Green Hat Hackers attack

2019-04-02 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 4/2/19 12:26 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > >> Dear D1rs, >> >> we have analysed in depth the attack from the "Green Hat Hackers" that >> compromised the Devuan infrastructure in the last hours, and we >> concluded that you all are: >> >>* APRIL FOOLS

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-01-31 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/31/19 4:38 AM, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:19:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> Might interest someone: >> >> https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/ >> >> [Front] Posted Jan 28, 2019 20:05 UTC (Mon) by corbet >> >> His attempt to cast that story for the >> pleasure

Re: [DNG] mailing list software

2018-12-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 12/12/18 1:25 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > I wrote: > >> Upon examination, it turns out that the known flaws in Procmail lack any >> credible exploitation scenario. The matter was covered on LWN.net a few >> years ago, and I'm pretty sure nothing has changed substantively. >> >> (I've gone through

Re: [DNG] mailing list software

2018-12-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 12/12/18 1:13 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Lars Nood??n via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > >> It's probably a time that Procmail be retired, and thus anything based >> on it. There have been a lot of reports in recent years of serious, >> unsafe bugs in its processing. However, there is this

Re: [DNG] mailing list software

2018-12-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 12/12/18 1:14 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Martin Steigerwald (mar...@lichtvoll.de): [...] >> Ah, I found it: smartlist. It appears to be a small, lightweight C >> application. Debian is using this. > > Nicely summarised. Yes, SmartList seems to have carved out a neat > little niche of

Re: [DNG] Audio woes in Ascii - speakers but no headphones

2018-12-10 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 12/10/18 1:25 AM, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > [...] > One other good idea is this: alsactl init > The command will put your soundcard in a usable > state. > > As exemplified here: > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15765/why-do-i-have-to-run-alsactl-init-each-time-i-boot-my-system

Re: [DNG] Audio woes in Ascii - speakers but no headphones

2018-12-09 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 10/11/18 9:00 PM, Lars Noodén wrote: > Today when I plugged in external speakers or earbuds into the audio jack > on my notebook, the sound no longer transfers from the built-in speakers > to the jack. The sound stops in the built-in speakers as expected but > it is not transferred to the