Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org):
> I think it's fair to point out that systemd-timesyncd only promises
> Simple NTP (SNTP). How good a job it does of that is another matter
> but at least it explains some of the "quirks" you mention below.
Put that way, fair point. _But_,
clock is within about 68 years
of current time.
Do _not_ use ntpdate any more. It doesn't work well.
https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/DeprecatingNtpdate
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Quoting Bernard Rosset via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> Thanks Rick, for this lighthearted take on this!
> Very much welcome and appreciated on my part.
Yr. very welcome.
> This actually is the "dream" of any infra person facing a relentless
> ego-bloated hijacker above in such a situation.
I
Quoting Dimitris via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> there are lawyers-threats involved and he took infra too. so it's
> not that simple/light as you're presenting it.
> announced here as well : https://twitter.com/freenodestaff
As always, persons involve will need to judge for themselves whether
Quoting Ludovic Belli??re (belliere.ludo...@proximus.be):
> What does it means for devuan?
It's a spelling change!
1996: NCSA HTTPd is now spelled "Apache HTTPd"
1997: gcc is now spelled "egcs" (which then got called gcc, again)
1991: GNU libc forked as Linux libc, and then, 1998: Linux
not be able to
compromise the package collection via the build infrastructure.
> There is always a first time (or a time of first discovery).
Send a telegram.
And I believe I'm done. Run away and play elsewhere, sonny. I'm busy.
[rest snipped per the Law of Diminishing Returns]
o speculate that my employer was VA Linux Systems and that
the embarassing theft of a token happened when a VA sysadmin ssh'd out
to shells.sourceforge.net (a shared public host that he didn't know
someone had rooted), and then ssh'd or scp'd back into the sensitive
corporate network, I would say
n source distros for general purpose computing.
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Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no):
> ..very true. Are there ways to trick common Devuan installs
> into automatically installing these bad things?
> (Other than tricking newbie etc users, sysadmins etc into
> doing it?)
I don't see any particular structural accidents waiting to happen,
RotaJakiro has been distributed remains unanswered.
So, there ya go: Avoid installing and running it. It's called system
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Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> Looks as if the connection manager is taking over dns.
>
> Who knew? And whom does it talk to? Does it contain its own recursive
> DNS resolver? Or does it just pick up on the DHCP signals it gets from
> elsewhere and take over?
connman
Quoting Marc Shapiro via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> On 3/19/21 8:31 PM, tempforever via Dng wrote:
> >
> >To find files last modified in January:
> >(adjust the dates as needed; on Mar. 19 this should locate files dated
> >Jan 1 - 31 but it could be off a day or so)
> >
> >cd /media/archives
>
Quoting Mike Tubby (m...@tubby.org):
> Try this:
> https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/03/no-rsa-is-not-broken.html
Thanks, yes. Among the telling points made;
The most important point from the StackExchange discussion is that if
Schnorr could “destroy RSA”, he would have destroyed
I wrote:
> > https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/232.pdf
>
> Snakes. Oil. (**COUGH** Theranos **COUGH**)
> We've been here before with Crown Sterling.
Sorry, I take that back, having just assumed this was the Crown Sterling
guys (again). The current claim is _not_ from Crown Sterling
but rather
liably,
and would just need to do it again the right way.
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algorithms themselves. Cracking is cracking, no matter whether it
was achieved through exploiting unintended side-channels or anything
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Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> What's the problem? I'm now resolving with some opennic servers. Later
> I'll actually make a separate root.hints for opennic, and one for the
> regular servers (which might be updated with my next Unbound update).
Glad it's working for you.
Quoting tito via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> To be honest you advised me:
>
> me: Hi,
> can this opennic.cache file be downloaded freely or do
> you need to register?
>
> You: As mentioned, I have not experimented with alternative DNS roots in
> decades.
>
> I could try
Quoting tito via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:38:35 -0800
> Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > Quoting Dimitris via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> >
> > > https://wiki.opennic.org/tier_2_unbound
> > >
> > > eg. for opennic root server
Quoting Gabe Stanton via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> I'll be blunt as well. I think this argument is a strawman because you
> lumped opennic in with other dns providers and dismissed them
That is not what I said.
Your reading comprehension isssues are not my problem.
> > > You made a case
bit makes handling of queries
faster and smarter.
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humourously in my piece "The Village of Lan: A Networking Fairy Tale":
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Quoting Gabe Stanton via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> Of course using a local (or controlled by you) caching dns resolver
> ENHANCES privacy.
You really should have stopped there.
> That's not even a question and doesn't represent a
> real argument against the likelihood that, in the case of
Quoting wirelessduck--- via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> Au contraire, I’m running unbound right now on my laptop. There are
> some situations though where it’s not feasible to run one's own
> recursive DNS resolver, such as a home router for non-technical people
> that doesn’t support
Quoting tito via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> then please just don't do it. You are under no obligation to answer,
> As we say in Italy: "To ask is allowed, to answer is a courtesy",
> but once you take the time and effort to answer then it would
> make more sense to me to share your knowledge
Quoting Dimitris via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> https://wiki.opennic.org/tier_2_unbound
>
> eg. for opennic root servers :
> # dig . NS @161.97.219.84 > root.hints
Yeah, I _vaguely_ recall (after not paying attention to such matters for
some decades) that their alternate root servers supply
Quoting tito via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> Hi,
> can this opennic.cache file be downloaded freely or do you need
> to register?
As mentioned, I have not experimented with alternative DNS roots in decades.
I could try to answer your question for you, but, seriously, if you are
going to start
Quoting tito via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> Hi,
> just for fast information, is it enough for unbound to remove:
>
> forward-zone:
> #forward-first: yes
> name: "."
> forward-tls-upstream: yes
> forward-addr: 1.1.1.1@853#cloudflare-dns.com
> forward-addr:
Quoting Gabe Stanton via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> In the absence of a "community of dns server operators and users", is
> the optimal option to have everyone run their own recursive server? But
> then the upstream servers still get the birds-eye view and will very
> likely abuse that
Quoting wirelessduck--- via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> What’s the consensus on Quad9? Are they any better from a privacy
> standpoint?
To say again, why outsource recursive nameservice to _anyone_?
You seem like a large number of people who are weirdly resistant to
the notion of basic control
Quoting Dimitris via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> so, i would be interested to know, if there's a privacy issue with
> opennnic?
I have no problem with people who decide to adopt alternate roots.
What I was talking about upthread was outsourcing one's recursive
nameservice to OpenNIC's public
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> When I added four opennic root servers to my unbound's root.hints
{laughs}
Oh, you sweet summer child. Experimenting with alternative DNS roots,
eh?
It's been decades since I've done so, but ISTR that the correct way to
do that is to re-point
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> AND the tech chops to set it up.
I provided a simple copy/paste recipe. My friend Michael Paoli even
scripted the entire process: http://www.mpaoli.net/~michael/tmp/2jitsi
And just following the official instructions isn't actually difficult,
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> If I had demanded of myself to change the root cause instead of
> coathangering the symptom, I'd have needed to go to the Void Linux
> developers and ask them to find a way to accommodate DNS, in a
> travelling situation, without changing
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 11:36:57AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> > More to the point, Jitsi Meet (reminder: that's its correct name)
> > is open source (Apache License 2.0). All it takes to run is a computer
> > with adequat
I wrote:
> Setting /etc/resolv.conf immutable, the classic case that was the first
> I saw you fall in love with, is a case in point. There are multiple
> ways to ensure that a DHCP client respects and enforces your preference
> of recursive nameserver, averting the need for breaking system
>
utable bit.
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I wrote:
> Gentle reminder: The correcct name of this A/V conferencing server
> software is Jitsi Meet. The Jitsi Project has published several pieces
> of software; Jitsi Meet is the best known among them.
Jitsi Project codebases so far:
o Jitsi Desktop aka 'Jitsi' aka 'the SIP
Quoting g4sra via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> My biggest beef with Microsoft Teams, Zoom, and now Jitsi-meetthey
> all omitted an essential service. What I want is (looking at you Rick
> :P) a test sever which simply echo's back the incoming video\audio to
> the client.
As mentioned, the
Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se):
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_conferencing_software
> lists four open source systems:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jami_(software)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMeetings
>
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> So while a home-grown installation is all of our goal, until then,
> anything on meet.jit.si works pretty darn well, as long as your browser
> is Chromium if you're on Linux.
Looks like Jitsi Meet's supported browsers list has moved to
hub.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/
https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium-debian
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Quoting Dimitris via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> a list of jitsi instances :
> https://framatalk.org/accueil/en/info
Ah, thank you (ευχαριστώ). I've been trying to re-find that.
Gentle reminder: The correcct name of this A/V conferencing server
software is Jitsi Meet. The Jitsi Project has
Quoting goli...@devuan.org (goli...@devuan.org):
> I use vivaldi for jitsi (but nothing else). It just works.
The proprietary Vivaldi browser is a good choice (other than being
proprietary) _because_ it is based on Chromium's Blink rendering engine,
hence has good WebRTC support and a decent
t;If you use headphones you can open two tabs to the same meeting and
> >talk to yourself.
>
> My psychiatrist told me to stop doing that.
>
> At least, in public.
Rumour has it that it's harmless to talk to yourself, as long as you
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Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> >In case anyone's interested in an extended and only semi-temperate rant
> >on this theme:
> >http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/meetup.html
>
> I love your essay, but you were much too kind to meetup.com.
;-> I'll work on that.
Quoting o1bigtenor via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> Asking to confirm - - - - so Firefox won't work?
Some folks have no problems with particular Firefox versions (talking to
Jitsi Meet), but it's not officially recommended as per
https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/wiki/Browser-support .[1]
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> I, for one, p l e a s e ? (!?!)
{sigh}
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Quoting Gabe Stanton via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> This is incentive for me to take another crack at getting a jitsi
> instance running. It will probably take me a couple months to get one
> working since time is limited and there are many things higher on the
> priorities list, but I'll work
eme:
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/meetup.html
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This is a very nice piece of work, Steve, and will be endlessly useful.
Thank you.
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Quoting Ralph Ronnquist via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> I think Lewis Carroll had a stab at this issue as well in "Through The
> Looking Glass" where the name of the Black Knight was called
> something... or how it was.
The White Knight, but yes, exactly -- Carroll playing with what we now
call
Quoting g4sra via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> What is the netiquette on this list for changing subject lines.
> I hate hijacking threads but I also hate breaking them.
> Which is the lesser of the two evils ?
Standards-compliant mailers' threading doesn't get broken by altering
the Subject
s/gufw
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Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> > as you replied off-list and I don't know of any better way, I bring
> > the issue back to the list: Perhaps someone has a hint on resetting
> > the device, if you'd reveal its make and model?
> >
> > Another idea out of thin air: Did you remove
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> It *does* list a co-author. Funny thing is, the co-author's name seems
> kinda familiar, and I'm wondering where I heard his name before.
I think it's actually a franchise -- like Dread Pirate Roberts.
Westley:Well, Roberts had grown so
ten guy's
style. The difference of authorial 'voice' seems night-and-day to me,
but -- horses for courses; à chacun son goût.
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plish. When I don't get answers, I send a whiny reminder every two
> hours. When all this doesn't work, I use a web search.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your
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Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it):
> On Monday 01 February 2021 at 21:02:34, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > I think someone should write an online essay called something like 'How
> > to Ask Questions the Smart Way', to help such folks.
>
> https://xkcd
what would you answer? Reading that on a mailing list you probably would
> just ignore such a person ...
I think someone should write an online essay called something like 'How
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there's a solution to that difficult and vexing problem in the
Linuxmafia.com Knowledgebase at
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/package-database-rebuild.html .
(But probably that's just me.)
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Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
> Just to remind, if you forgot it.
>
> There's one known case where double positive means negative: C++
"Yeah, yeah."
(The gag may not travel well, so: At least in some USA regions,
the phrase "Yeah, yeah" is something of a dismissive phrase
Quoting Ian Zimmerman (i...@very.loosely.org):
> But if "and" is a conjunction in this sentence pattern, the nouns or
> pronouns it joins together form the subject, and so they ought to be in
> the nominative, i.e. "John and I".
Indeed.
I vaguely recall Hendrik suggesting that 'and'
s wife Karen fondly):
https://msburkeenglish.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/uncleftish-beholding-aka-atomic-theory.pdf
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Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> Good that that works for you.
> But for someone with attantion deficit, that couple of minutes a year is
> difficult.
(1) Keep domains you care about registered with five years of runtime.
There really is not disadvantage worth mentioning.
(2)
Quoting wirelessduck--- via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> A good move to switch from godaddy. Doesn’t really matter where you
> switch to, but godaddy appear to be a seriously unethical company.
>
> https://www.webpronews.com/godaddy-elephant-killing-nodaddy-venovix/
>
Quoting vmlinux (vmli...@charter.net):
> Embrace, Extend, Extinguish? Shocking but not surprising. Even more reason
> for Devuan to exist.
>
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-shifts-from-red-hat-unbranded-to-red-hat-beta/
From: Rick Moen via Sb
Date: Thu, 10 De
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl):
> Imagine that you tried and failed to find any door that would taken a
> skilled lockpicker more than three seconds to open. Would you leave the
> entrance to your flat wide open without a door at all? That's what you're
> suggesting.
No, I'm not.
Quoting Bernard Rosset via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> >It makes me sad that this view is deemed 'contrarian'. As a sysadmin, I
> >consider it obvious common sense.
>
> I have no idea if it is contrarian or if it is the silent majority
> of opinions. However the opinion being more vocal
I posted a wrong link, oops.
> Retrospective case studies of some of the latter from over the prior decade:
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20201203.213847.8bf66630.en.html
I meant this one:
http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2020-December/011311.html
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> What about the fact that Google gives higher rankings to secure
> accounts? For google togive that higher ranking, does self-signing
> suffice for enhanced rankings, or does one have to have a cert signed
> by a certification company like Let's
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re, start
there. I swear I've come across other pieces elaborating on why
separating recursive from authoritative nameservice is a recommended
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Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org):
> I have a dnsmasq instance that does *authorative* resolution for an
> internal domain.
Well, pseudo-authoritative.
> Anything not in that domain is forwarded to the corporate DNS servers.
> Works fine for me so I think dnsmasq can be more
kage like BIND9, but that's been known
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Quoting Bernard Rosset via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> It seems we're drifting away from the main subject.
> Count me in!
Roger that! Subject header tweaked.
> ?
> If your emails are being refused by others, including major email
> hosters, I would kindly suggest you check you got at least
Quoting d...@d404.nl (d...@d404.nl):
> I do not have experience with Zoom but with Jitsi and discovered that
> disabling WebRTC leakage in Firefox because of WebRTC leaking ip
> addresses also crippled Jitsi.
The first comment on this bug is said to address that (even though the
bug report is
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> > Sounds like a problem local to you.
>
> No, not in the least bit "local to me". I will be generous and assume
> that you simply misunderstood what I wrote - it happens a lot :-(
>
> Prior to SPF, it was perfectly OK to (for example) :
>
>
Quoting Simon Hobson (si...@thehobsons.co.uk):
> Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > My response inevitably is that I really couldn't care less whether
> > they like SPF or not. ...
>
> May I respectfully pick you up on that one.
Well, you can _try_.
> Regardless of the argu
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Quoting terryc (ter...@woa.com.au):
> On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:20:06 +0200
> Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote:
>
>
> > You can also publish DKIM and SPF records so as to produce
> > DMARC-aligned authentication for any hosted domain. Users won't
> > notice any difference.
>
> Does anyone have
Quoting Mark Rousell (mark.rous...@signal100.com):
> Option 1 is a bit embarrassing if anyone notices (e.g.
> "host-46462.static.bugtown.myisp.net" isn't too cool as the name of your
> mail server) but I don't see any technical downside, although DMARC
> might perhaps be an issue nowadays.
DMARC
Quoting Ian Zimmerman (i...@very.loosely.org):
> I worry about a different kind of portability. If I ever have to switch
> to BSD (and this remains a possibility, unfortunately), /bin/* shebangs
> will not work except for /bin/sh, and /bin/sh is always ash. That is
> because on BSD everything not
Quoting Peter Duffy (pe...@pwduffy.org.uk):
> With respect, I'd tend to disagree with that to some extent. The /bin/sh
> symlink is built in, and is there from the point that the system is
> installed.
That was a _second_ if lesser blunder (in that bash was, even at the
inception of Linux, a
Quoting marc (marc...@welz.org.za):
> Hmm - that might require some background: I'd venture that most of
> these scripts were written when sh was just a symlink to bash, and
> dash didn't exist, nevermind as a debian package.
But that was always a blunder. The shebang should have been set to
quot;My hot flight attendant asked how I like my coffee.
Rick Moen And that's when she told me: 'That's cute, honey, but
r...@linuxmafia.com the coffee's free. You don't have to pay for it, here."
McQ! (4x80)
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> I've never been afraid to kludge when it comes to packages, so my
> solution was:
>
> chattr i /etc/resolv.conf
>
> :-)
Without the '+', that is not a solution, just a syntax error. ;->
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