Re: [DNG] https://talk.devuan.org/ not accessible

On 12/22/2016 04:08 AM, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote: > Hi All, > > As of now 3:12 UK time I can't access the https://talk.devuan.org/ pages. > Thanks. The machine is not pinging either. I'm not aware of anything I can do since I only have SSH access to it, and there's

Re: [DNG] DocSprint Devuan, December, BXL

On 12/21/2016 01:09 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > The concepts discussed are deep, far reaching, and branch off a long > way from software. I have a feeling that reading this document > carefully would teach me a lot more than software. This is a manifesto. > Thank you Steve, this is the most

Re: [DNG] DocSprint Devuan, December, BXL

On 12/06/2016 01:13 PM, hellekin wrote: > On 11/15/2016 08:43 AM, hellekin wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> for the third moment of its research-action vector on SMALL >> SINGULARITIES, Dyne:β×λ is organizing a documentation sprint for Devuan >> in December in Brussels. &

Re: [DNG] DocSprint Devuan, December, BXL

On 12/06/2016 06:26 PM, ja...@beau.org wrote: > > They're going to put money towards something that most every Open Source > project has problems with - documentation. > More than money we're putting a lot of energy and sensibility into it. People who participate actually care for Devuan, as

Re: [DNG] DocSprint Devuan, December, BXL

On 12/06/2016 05:45 PM, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > β stands for Brussels, λ for laboratory, and in vector calculus, × stands > for curl. The curl of two vectors is a third vector normal (i.e. > perpendicular) to both original vectors. A vector is something that > has a direction. A singularity

Re: [DNG] DocSprint Devuan, December, BXL

On 11/15/2016 08:43 AM, hellekin wrote: > Dear all, > > for the third moment of its research-action vector on SMALL > SINGULARITIES, Dyne:β×λ is organizing a documentation sprint for Devuan > in December in Brussels. > > https://bxl.dyne.org/vectors/small-singularities >

[DNG] talk.devuan.org dangling issue for two months.

Two months ago I warned of a low disk space situation. https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/todo/issues/33 Yesterday, talk.devuan.org started failing for lack of space. Can't say more. == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

On 11/23/2016 01:12 PM, Simon Hobson wrote: > hellekin <helle...@dyne.org> wrote: > >> ... nobody cares > > As someone who is not really in a position to contribute much at all, let me > say that I'm grateful to all who are working towards making Devuan "hap

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

On 11/09/2016 11:05 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > The final documentation should be done on something more permanent, > based on the back-and forth in email. The talk.devuan.org would be a > great place to put the finished docs. My problem with talk.devuan.org > is when I used it for brainstorming. I

[DNG] Devuan stickers now on sale!

Our friends at UnixStickers put out Devuan stickers \o/ 10% of the sales go to the Devuan project, so it's a great way to show your support. Single copies are $2.69, down to $1.79 per 10 or more. They come in two colors: Black on white for clear surfaces:

[DNG] Devuan Editors (was Re: apt-get update fails [FIXED])

On 11/06/2016 08:59 PM, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > BTW, I think two or three lines a month about the apparently heavy work > under the hood would help to reduce the perception of discrepancy > between the often-quoted "rock solid beta" statement and "accidents" > like this^^ > Yup. We have a

[DNG] Devuan-based Distros

The page at https://devuan.org/os/partners/devuan-distros is a bit outdated and quite messy. I'd like to make a complete list of Devuan-Based distros, including a presentation, link to the site, distrowatch entry if any, etc. Besides, a lot of people seem to choose SourceForge to host their

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

On 11/06/2016 02:59 PM, Giovanni Rapagnani wrote: > > Based on these observations, I think the information on [2] should be > updated to tell DNG is the primary ML. devuan-discuss would better be > closed and all the subscribers informed that DNG is the primary ML for > getting help and discuss

[DNG] Recent Security Update Discrepancy

As you may have noticed, last week-end the security updates for JESSIE and ASCII didn't work. We apologize for that glitch which reminds us we're still in Beta. The problem was fixed and shouldn't happen again. Recent changes in the devuan-keyring package made that the secondary instance of

[DNG] Discourse MIME messages (was Re: On talk.do and Web forums)

On 09/30/2016 11:28 AM, hellekin wrote: >> >> appear to be HTML formatted. HTML formatted? Sy what??? >> Here's what RFC 2046 has to say: Systems should recognize that the content of the various parts are interchangeable. Systems should choose the "best&q

Re: [DNG] On talk.do and Web forums

On 09/28/2016 03:57 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > For me, discourse is nothing but silliness. The discourse summary and > discourse Digest emails I occasionally get are hard to read, boring, > and appear to be HTML formatted. HTML formatted? Sy what??? > If they appear to be HTML formatted,

Re: [DNG] On talk.do and Web forums

On 09/28/2016 03:57 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Does anyone remember the great, text formatted, human created Devuan > Weekly News? It's sad to think the Devuan Weekly News was supplanted by > Discourse Digest. > Oh yes I do. After Envite burned out on it, I had to take a lot of my own time to

[DNG] On talk.do and Web forums

On IRC #devuan: hellekin: Can we PLEASE move on from Discourse. Very few people are using it and those who are loathe it for the most part. It's holding back Devuan's community growth! Let me state it one last time, by email, so that it can be read by everyone and we can have a discussion

Re: [DNG] [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

On 08/01/2016 01:55 AM, Daniel Reurich wrote: > > I think it may be useful to add a question into the installer about this > (probably only in expert mode) rather than blindly change the current > setting. Where we are rebuilding packages we could certainly review and > potentially reclassify

Re: [DNG] [Dng] What do you guys think about "Suggest" and "Recommends" dependency?

On 07/31/2016 02:20 PM, Paweł Cholewiński wrote: > > First law of software quality picture from nixcraft .. > Oh, they even provided a line of examples :) BTW, I thought this suggests/recommends set to false were already agreed upon, so +1 here. (Sorry I didn't take the time to read the whole

Re: [DNG] Bad website CSS: was Devuan Sticker Poll

On 07/30/2016 06:10 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Here's a screenshot: > > http://a3b3.com/stuff/devuan_org_compressed_lines.png > Ouch. Can you please visit the following page and make a screenshot? I want to see if it comes from the software or the customization.

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

On 07/30/2016 07:45 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > > It doesn't hurt to just _ask_ Joey his perspective. > I did already, as I mentioned earlier in this thread. For the record, here is the content of my message to him: * Subject: a toxic document? Hello I'm working with the Devuan project, and

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

On 07/29/2016 07:28 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > According to you, voters vote for a political party basing their vote > on the party's electoral manifesto, then suddenly when the party wins > the government, they can be told the government does what they think > is best, and claim it best meets

[DNG] Devuan Sticker Poll

preferences. Please take the poll! https://talk.devuan.org/t/devuan-merchandise/177/2?u=hellekin Regards, == hk [0]: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/issues/13 -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

On 07/25/2016 06:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > This is a screenshot of my buddy's kernel menuconfig: > > https://sanitarium.net/x.png > Support for init systems, system and service managers: [*] OpenRC, runit and other script based systems and managers [ ] systemd This looks like a

Re: [DNG] Cannot install Samba on Jessie

On 07/24/2016 10:40 AM, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote: > > Apparently the bug has been fixed? Samba 4.2.10 installed without any > problem or hickup today with AMD64. > The bug remains open and is unassigned: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/issues/61 == hk -- _ _ We are

Re: [DNG] UPdate error

On 07/06/2016 11:02 PM, Paweł Cholewiński wrote: > Hi, > during "apt-get update" error appear "Error > http://auto.mirror.devuan.org jessie-security/main amd64 Packages > Undetermined Error". Same here: W: Failed to fetch

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

On 06/03/2016 05:56 PM, Dan Purgert wrote: > > '~._ > ""+=+_ )(@ @)@@ @@ @@.@@@. > '"@+.@''' @@@@ @@ @@ @++@ @?'''\@ > @@@+.@@ @@ @@ @@@@ @@@@@@ >

[DNG] Devuan Top100 on DistroWatch

Today Devuan is number #91 on DistroWatch.com! We made it to the Top 100 is the first 3 days of presence on DW. Sweet! http://distrowatch.com/devuan == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry *

Re: [DNG] Devuan (f)art

td" here. Sorry. > I tried this before, indeed the result needs tweaking. The screenfetch entry for Devuan looks pretty good already: hellekin@raiz ..,,;;;::;,.. OS: Devuan 1.0 jessie `':ddd;:,.

Re: [DNG] What's the correct place for backgrounds, wallpapers etc.

You may also install desktop themes in your user's $HOME: ~/.themes/foo == hk ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

On 05/13/2016 04:30 PM, David Hare wrote: > > http://paste.debian.net/683478 > Great! Would you consider putting it on https://talk.devuan.org/c/study? If you need help, please tell me. I guess you can replace line 17: if ! (dpkg -l | grep "^ii" | grep "grub-efi-amd64" |grep -v "bin"); then

Re: [DNG] Torrents for every single install image

On 05/13/2016 10:35 AM, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote: > Hi All, > > I have created a single torrent file for every installation image inside > the 10 Gb and are actively seeding. > Is there a way to add them to a website or wiki for easy access for > everyone? > Hello, This is not

[DNG] No DNS: OVH under DDOS

As reported on IRC just a minute ago: < Guy-> is it just me, or is there a DNS problem with devuan.org? Guy-: http://travaux.ovh.com/?do=details=17875 dns anycast.me ( the CDN where devuan.org is hosted for DNS ) is under dDoS i will take care to

[DNG] OT Re: cloud

On 05/03/2016 06:05 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:44:29 + > hellekin <helle...@dyne.org> wrote: > > >> I want to call it "rabbit" or "Shub-Niggurath" > > I fear the latter name would not be well received in the United States

Re: [DNG] [helle...@dyne.org: Re: Missing packages]

On 04/29/2016 09:50 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > >> Hellekin wrote: >> >> You should use http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ for >> Devuan sources. Not anything else. > Update: auto.mirror.devuan.org gives you the closest (fastest) mirror available, and is preferred.

Re: [DNG] .iso images label

On 04/29/2016 05:36 PM, Jim Murphy wrote: > Minor but it would be nice to see Devuan and not Debian > as the label. > > [snip] > > Would someone check and correct before the next release? > Follow up to https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/debian-installer/issues/52 == hk -- _ _ We

Re: [DNG] Fwd: For all you automounter programmers

On 05/03/2016 12:16 PM, Jim Murphy wrote: > > Problem, blkid uses a cache that is only updated when root runs blkid. > Any changes are not automatically updated. A user only sees the cache. > > The issues is, fsr is trying to do everything as a "user" so tools like > lsblk and blkid don't work

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

On 05/03/2016 12:00 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > > I definitely agree with you Jim, and this is certainly one aspect to > be taken into account seriously. We should strive to allow the maximum > flexibility in choosing an init system, ensuring that the set of > constraints remains as small as possible. >

Re: [DNG] sources.list targets

On 05/03/2016 10:28 AM, Jaromil wrote: > On Tue, 03 May 2016, Daniel Reurich wrote: > >> Indeed we need a canonical FAQ for Devuan - one that contains correct >> information and properly managed. > > best strategy for that is to restart it on our forum https://talk.devuan.org > FYI:

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

On 05/02/2016 09:15 AM, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > helle...@dyne.org writes: >> auto.mirrors does not exist: only auto.mirror does. Unknown names point >> to www.devuan.org. > > Auto.mirrors exists as of yesterday. It was on the devuan home page due > to a typo. Nextime made the typo work, then

Re: [DNG] cloud

On 05/02/2016 11:37 AM, Herb Garcia wrote: > By that metric, using the phrase "cloud-init" is at least descriptive, > and not marketing buzzword driven. > It reminds me of the silver ion spreading technique used in China to create rain and wash Beijing's roofs from desert sand. Now *that* is

Re: [DNG] cloud

On 05/01/2016 08:17 PM, dan pridgeon wrote: > Cirrus > > From: Hughe Chung > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 8:33 PM > Subject: Re: [DNG] cloud > > > How about cloudnine? > As much as I like Bucky Fuller, the goal is not to

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

On 04/30/2016 08:25 PM, Don Wright wrote: > > I resolve them as: > auto.mirror.devuan.org. 300 IN CNAME packages.devuan.org. > packages.devuan.org.1800IN A 46.105.191.77 > > auto.mirrors.devuan.org. 300IN CNAME www.devuan.org. > www.devuan.org.

Re: [DNG] [helle...@dyne.org: Re: Missing packages] UP!

On 04/29/2016 04:54 PM, hellekin wrote: > > You should use http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ for Devuan > sources. Not anything else. > Sorry, I meant AUTO.MIRROR.DEVUAN.ORG, as indicated in the documentation and the default /etc/apt/sources.list. packages.devuan.org is where Am

Re: [DNG] devuan announce and discuss mailing lists

On 04/29/2016 03:30 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Please arrange to relay these new mailing lists through gmane.org. > They provides a very usable archive-as-usenet service. > > Or do you want me to do this? > Please go ahead! == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share

[DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

On 04/29/2016 03:27 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > > security.devuan.org uses an invalid security certificate. > The certificate is only valid for the following names: > devuan.org, www.devuan.org > (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) > > How do I resolve this? > Don't use

Re: [DNG] Missing packages

On 04/29/2016 03:02 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > > Let me elaborate. In debian, the firmware-iwlwifi package is found in > the pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/ subdirectory. > In packages.devuan.org/pool/, there is only a main directory, no non-free > directory. Why is that? > packages.devuan.org

Re: [DNG] Beta

On 04/29/2016 11:40 AM, Jaromil wrote: > On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Herb Garcia wrote: > >>So is the Openstack instance there? > > yes, the openstack image (cloud-init equipped) is tagged _cloud_ > > and is included in the torrent. > _cloud_ is the worst label ever. Please tag it openstack, as

Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]

Thank you all for your positive response! It's heart-warming. == hk ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

On 04/21/2016 08:17 PM, Mitt Green wrote: > > Frankly, no idea. ‎I have never used Skype, nor have > a Microsoft account (removed right after throwing > away my Lumia; smartphones suck by the way). > > / Mitt > I guess you're my kind of a guy :) == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

On 04/21/2016 04:14 PM, Mitt Green wrote: > > From GitHub[1]: > Project is in stale state since its proclamation. > The main objective, working Skype test call, > is reached. I don't have any plans for further > development. > > [1]:https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse > Thanks Mitt. That means

Re: [DNG] Devuan Web A11y

On 04/20/2016 07:55 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > Clicking on 'forked from Debian' > This is indeed one of the sections that remain to write. Generalizing like you did is useless and misguiding. Don't forget that this is the BETA site of the BETA, so it's normal that a house in-the-making

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

On 04/20/2016 03:46 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: >> >> This is not the first time apulse has been discussed on this list. >> There was talk of packaging apluse for Devuan last year but that >> conversation has been lost in time. Perhaps adding apulse to Devuan >> will be reconsidered once the beta is

Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]

This thread contains a lot of praise for Devuan. I want to ask you whether it's fine to use it on devuan.org for promotion. You're welcome to reply here. I'll contact everyone individually to ask anyway. Cheers == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom

Re: [DNG] Devuan Web A11y

On 04/20/2016 02:38 PM, Svante Signell wrote: > > Nice page, next would be to populate the links with content, right? > Can you be more specific? Did you *read* the contents of the 404 page you must have stumbled upon? If so, you know what to do. == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code

Re: [DNG] asteroids and release names.

On 04/19/2016 12:36 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Ascii will be the name of version 1, won't it? > 1.0 is Jessie (upcoming beta...) 2.0 is ASCII 3.0 is B... 4.0 is C... ... sid is CERES == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

On 04/19/2016 01:38 PM, Go Linux wrote: > >> More to the point, what is being used s a bug tracker now? Something >> on github, maybe? >> >> -- hendrik > > To report a bug, open an issue under the appropriate project in > Devuan's gitlab (not github) at https://git.devuan.org/. You will > need

Re: [DNG] apt-get vs. aptitude ?

On 04/16/2016 08:13 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 16/04/2016 19:47, Noel Torres a écrit : >> >> I regularly use aptitude's CUI (I use to name it as text-mode GUI). >> Mostly because it has that wonderful "Mark as automatically installed" >> mode, that allows packages to be more easily updated or

[DNG] KDE Presents its Vision for the Future

https://dot.kde.org/2016/04/05/kde-presents-its-vision-future I like it. Ditto for the comments on Accessibility (a11y). == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [DNG] suspend

On 04/13/2016 12:44 AM, Simon Walter wrote: > > I don't mean that we have to be PC about everything, but > "to be PC"? Err, what? Can you expand the acronym if that doesn't mean Personal Computer? == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation,

[DNG] TLS / files.do

In case you didn't notice, all servers are now using proper TLS certificates from Let's Encrypt, except one host: files.devuan.org, that mysteriously failed to acquire some. So this one is using a free certificate from Startcom. If you encounter any issue with TLS, please report to

Re: [DNG] ...and when trolling went too far

I'd rather not read that kind of degrading perspective in anything related to Devuan anymore. I have enough going on with my life not to be interested in witnessing people vomiting their hate over one another. == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne

Re: [DNG] files.devuan.org not working

On 03/30/2016 02:46 PM, parazyd wrote: > > For what it's worth, it is now upped to 30 certs. > Yes, it upped just after--like hours after--the first generation of our certificates :( == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture

Re: [DNG] Where to get beta?

On 03/17/2016 07:56 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Where can I download Devuan's beta? > In the near future, as Mitt suggested ;o), from https://devuan.org/ and https://files.devuan.org/. For now, in Centurion_dan's pocket :) Tip: for anything related to the Web, please report issues to

Re: [DNG] Packaging Vdev

On 03/14/2016 08:04 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >>> >>> 0.1.20160314+1deb1 >>> >>> I was purposing something like this: >>> >>> 0.1.d5d965-jessie1 >>> >>> There is not a great difference between both. If you prefer to use >>> the date instead of the short commit, i will do so. >> >> The whole point

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

On 02/28/2016 07:38 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I suggest we use this mailing list for communication, and label each > post with the word DE in capital letters on the subject line. > Thus they'll end up arriving as [DNG] DE ... > We can do that, or use Mailman topics: so if you put [DE] in

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

On 02/27/2016 03:28 AM, Simon Wise wrote: > > something as minimal as possible, like above, seems a very good option. > I dream of a core Devuan that is modular so that the Desktop Environment is a *blend* that you layer on top of core. That way, you can have a choice of DEs that users can

Re: [DNG] leveldb support proposal

On 02/25/2016 04:01 PM, Ivan J. wrote: > Hello DnG. > > Is there interest in Devuan supporting multiple versions of leveldb? > The case of Bitcoin warrants some attention. Moreover, applications derived from Bitcoin may have the same issue. E.g., Twister compiles fine with db-5.3, but it may

Re: [DNG] Which Devuan alpha4 for vbox?

On 02/16/2016 06:05 PM, GoOSSBears wrote: > Wish to run an i386 Devuan alpha4 as a guest OS in VirtualBox's > current v5.0.14[1], and under an i386 Linux-distro host. > The Devuan download zone[2] currently lists the four possibilities > for this as > > - devuan-jessie-i386-alpha4.box > -

Re: [DNG] Easynetaid is for now netman's new name

On 02/07/2016 01:00 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > If someone suggests a serious name that is better suited than the new > name, I will consider it. > I'd like to suggest *netbeam*, also callable by `beammeup` or `beam [me] up [Scotty]` There's no netbeam package nor any `beam` UNIX command.

Re: [DNG] Semi OT: Mailman, Lurker and referencing messages

On 02/01/2016 10:49 AM, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > Can Mailman predict the URL under which Lurker will archive the message > it is processing "on the fly", or is there even a variable available? > > Quoting and referencing "third party" messages would be so much easier, > if mails contained

Re: [DNG] About Devuan News

On 02/01/2016 09:24 AM, Noel Torres wrote: > > For familiar reasons I'm not able to continue working in the beautiful > Devuan News work I started, but I love to know that it continues alive. > Reading it is my main point of connection with the Devuan community and > as such I need it to

Re: [DNG] Can I create other projects on git.devuan.org besides netman?

On 01/31/2016 03:38 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > Since space on servers costs money I am asking whether I am allowed to > create other project on git.devuan.org? > Everyone has 10 projects by default. Did you reach that limit already? == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On 01/28/2016 01:16 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..small fish, nice tits. ;o) >>> >>> The preceding half sentence is one example of something that should >>> NEVER appear in any Devuan venue. Ever. >>> > > > ..either way, > I'm sorry to tell you, Arnt Karlsen, that the only correct answer

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

On 01/27/2016 07:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > We anti-systemd people are already a tiny minority. > Indeed, Steve, *you* are. I'm not anti-systemd. Systemd has the right to exist, like slugs, bugs, rats, bullshit, bad coffee, or cyanide. I just don't want to have anything to do with it, and

Re: [DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

Arnt Karlsen: > > and: https://tails.boum.org/news/version_2.0/index.en.html > > ... > > Change to systemd as init system > I think it makes sense for a Live CD desktop distribution to do so, as it doesn't have to deal with legacy nor with broken upgrades, and it's not upgrading a

Re: [DNG] git.devuan.org upgrade

On 01/20/2016 12:27 PM, hellekin wrote: > Hello, > > git.devuan.org will go down for a scheduled upgrade on Friday, January > 22nd, in the (EU) evening. > I am timezone-challenged :) Hope everything is fine. Please report any anomalies. Happy hacking! == hk -- _ _

[DNG] git.devuan.org upgrade

Hello, git.devuan.org will go down for a scheduled upgrade on Friday, January 22nd, in the (EU) evening. Cheers, == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [DNG] Devuan Weekly News LX (Errata)

On 01/04/2016 03:07 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >> https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-news/wikis/past-issues/volume-03/issue-060 >> >> tips about UUID's][2], Arnt Karlsen talked about the [purpose of > > ..er, I did not, I asked the (I believe timely) question > "..where did the "/media

[DNG] How to enable LetsEncrypt Authority to access git.devuan.org (was Re: Expired SSL certificate for git.devuan.org)

On 12/24/2015 03:24 PM, Don Wright wrote: > > Perhaps Let's Encrypt isn't included in the default certification > authorities in your Iceweasel build (unlikely). Visit > https://letsencrypt.org and check the Support pages. --Don > The Tor Browser Bundle plays fine with LetsEncrypt. It uses

[DNG] Devuan Security

I suggest we add a devuan-security group on the gitlab, with a secur...@devuan.org with a GPG key. Any objection? Any volunteer? == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [DNG] proposed changes: the results

On 07/16/2015 11:41 PM, Franco Lanza wrote: What do you think about moving this way? *** Your proposals are very consensual and pregnant of the users' freedom of choice. This is a great way to enable an open system embracing variety and selection, and this should be kept in mind for other

Re: [DNG] vi for beginners

On 07/16/2015 06:24 PM, Riccardo Boninsegna wrote: :wq ZZ (uppercase) saves and quits, no questions asked! :x also saves and exits. == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

On 07/14/2015 09:59 PM, Franco Lanza wrote: More than the already know switch from gnome to xcfe4 as the default desktop and the oblovious change to sysvinit instead of systemd, i would to propose some other default changes in the standard install: nano - vim exim - postfix what do you

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

On 06/03/2015 05:53 AM, James Powell wrote: If the firmware aids in compatibility and driver support then yes, include it. *** I think non-free anything should not be included by default. For the sake of universality, they should be available to people who actually need them. Many people will

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

On 06/03/2015 11:37 AM, Laurent Bercot wrote: about licensing purity. and: But whatever you do, don't paternalize the users. There's nothing more infuriating than an infantilizing message in the way of what you want to do. and: Your users chose Devuan: they already have made a good

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

On 06/03/2015 12:06 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: IMO, network hardware that needs a non-free blob is the most glaring issue *** Yes, indeed, many computers come with broken hardware that won't work without installing proprietary software. I think this case is the single case that should be

Re: [Dng] Document on using Qemu for Linux DIY

On 05/14/2015 08:18 PM, Steve Litt wrote: sharing host and guest /tmp/xfer directory via sshfs. *** I use the Plan9 way for sharing folders (per someone's suggestion on the list): https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu#sharing-a-folder-with-the-host == hk --

[Dng] Devuan News, volume 02, issue XXIV

Project. - [Subscribe to the list][subscribe] - [Subscribe to the feed][atom-feed] - [Read online archives][archives] --- Read you soon! Devuan News is made by your peers: you're [welcome to contribute][wiki]! + Created by Noel @Envite Torres + @hellekin (editor at large) + @golinux

[Dng] Devuan financial report

The donations page [0] says Next one is due by the end of March 2015. Did I miss it? == hk [0]: https://devuan.org/donate.html -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/

Re: [Dng] fontawesome icon fix!

Did you check that the fonts now display correctly (without the userscript)? == hk ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] dev-list

FYI, I've been working on a Discourse instance for Devuan, so that we can have the best of both worlds (email and forum). If this happens, the developers can simply ignore threads they're not interested in and keep focused on work. The forum form is likely to grow beyond what any single person

Re: [Dng] dev-list

On 04/08/2015 07:44 PM, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: We got #debianfork and #devuan IRC channels for pretty much the same reasons, and it seems it sort of works there. So for ML that would be the natural template to follow. *** Except the move from IRC to email matches in nature the move from

Re: [Dng] dev-list

On 04/09/2015 01:15 AM, Martijn Dekkers wrote: We do not need another list. That's pretty arrogant. Can you back that up with some actual reasons, like others in this discussion are doing? Or is this simply a case of because I said so It's not arrogant, it's a fact. There's not even a

Re: [Dng] dev-list

On 04/09/2015 01:17 AM, Martijn Dekkers wrote: The reason the vast majority of projects use separate lists is because it *works* [dev] tagged topics don't work very well, because in most cases, people tend to forget, or change the subjectline, or whatever. *** I agree that Mailman's topics

Re: [Dng] dev-list

On 04/08/2015 09:49 PM, Steve Litt wrote: I make the following pledge to make sure I don't cause or continue conflict or noise on Dng: 1) I will not respond, at least on-list, to any thread discussing the merits or shames of systemd. I will either ignore, respond offlist, or filter and

Re: [Dng] The new forum

On 04/08/2015 06:34 PM, Go Linux wrote: It bears little resemblance to the technical forums to which I have become accustomed. *** Thank you. I really hope non-technical people will like it. I hate technical discussions about computers. They suck, because they're either dick-wagging

Re: [Dng] Too many man pages, too much complicated : systemd

On 04/06/2015 04:23 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: Second, I can't take all the credit :) Besides the VUA collective (Jaromil, Nextime, Hellekin, and others?), there's also: *** I'm not VUA. They are genuine spaghetti-raised Italians, I'm just an exiled Piemontese from the XVth Century. I can

[Dng] Call for factoids on the Debian fork

Hello dears, one of the current tasks of the Devuan Editors is to gather facts about the Debian fork in order to write a compelling story to be told on debianfork.org. This domain will hopefully be the place to deflect and defuse any troll about the Debian fork and systemd, in order to focus

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