Re: [DNG] Interesting Read on Linux Permissions

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 6:48 AM Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote: > > I was "aware" of this, but I don't know that I understood it. I'm actually > not sure that I understand it now, but I'm more aware of it than I was before. > >

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 6:26 AM onefang wrote: > > For what it's worth I just discovered that xscreensaver now has > xscreensaver-systemd, and is running on my Chimaera desktop. "The > xscreensaver-systemd program is a helper program to integrate > xscreensaver with systemd(1)." > I dunno if

Re: [DNG] Init respawns - was: Be prepared for the fall of systemd

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 12:37 AM Steve Litt wrote: > > On Thu, 2022-08-04 at 17:36 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 04:06:18AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > ... > > > > > > When I write Free Software, I'm one of those "meh, good enough" guys, > > > although > > > I'd > > >

Re: [DNG] article about devuan

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 7:29 AM Peter Duffy wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-07-30 at 06:07 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Fri, 2022-07-29 at 14:27 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > > > https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/ > > > > > > I think the author knows nothing about devuan and

Re: [DNG] article about devuan

On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 7:26 AM Fernando M. Maresca via Dng wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 01:14:10PM +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 06:07:53 -0400 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2022-07-29 at 14:27 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > > > >

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:41 AM o1bigtenor wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:21 AM Ludovic Bellière via Dng > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2022, o1bigtenor wrote: > > > > >On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:23 PM Ludovic Bellière via Dng > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> You need to understand how your

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:21 AM Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2022, o1bigtenor wrote: > > >On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:23 PM Ludovic Bellière via Dng > > wrote: > >> > >> You need to understand how your Desktop environment is being initialized. > >> It is > >> started by the

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:23 PM Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote: > > You need to understand how your Desktop environment is being initialized. It > is > started by the Display Manager, thus inherit whatever environment variable is > sourced by the DM. To have the DM be aware of custom variables,

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:44 AM Ludovic Bellière wrote: > > That would be an environment variable. It has to be written into a file > sourced > by your DM, each has their own standard. For KDE/sddm, you can look into > /etc/sddm/Xsession to see which file correspond to your system (it's

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 7:33 AM onefang wrote: > > On 2022-07-28 07:24:46, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:53 AM onefang > > wrote: > > > > > > On 2022-07-27 21:24:42, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > On Wed,

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:53 AM onefang wrote: > > On 2022-07-27 21:24:42, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang > > wrote: > > > > > > On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > Greetings > >

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang wrote: > > On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > > > Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X graphics card using > > opensource amdgpu drivers (version compiled for 1.21.1.3, module > > v

[DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

Greetings Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X graphics card using opensource amdgpu drivers (version compiled for 1.21.1.3, module version = 22.0.0, Module class: X.Org Video Driver, ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2) running xorg-server 2:21.1.3-2+b1. I think my system is

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 6:24 AM Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > Hi o1bigtenor, > > o1bigtenor writes: > > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 10:19 PM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi list, > >> > >> I lost the single SSD on my mini PC and am in the process of rethinking > >> its storage. So

[DNG] Further question on graphics drivers

Greetings Have completed an install onto a AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and am running a Radeon 570x graphics card. Driver comes up as amdgpu . https://amdgpu-install.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install-prereq.html If I followed the above url;'s destructions it is possible to add further 'enhancements'

Re: [DNG] moving to a new system

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 8:39 AM Adrian Zaugg wrote: > > In der Nachricht vom Saturday, 25 June 2022 15:32:21 CEST schrieb Marjorie > Roome via Dng: > > > (1) Replicate your existing system on the new hardware, maybe with a > > different disk/partition structure from what you have now. And then >

Re: [DNG] moving to a new system

On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 10:19 AM Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: > > Anno domini 2022 Fri, 24 Jun 09:05:39 -0500 > o1bigtenor via Dng scripsit: > > Greetings > > > > Hoping that I'm not asking too many questions. > > > > (moving from debian testing t

[DNG] moving to a new system

Greetings Hoping that I'm not asking too many questions. (moving from debian testing to devuan testing (daedalus) the old system is under 5.17.xx and the new one is on 5.18 if that makes for differences) (I've learnt the hard way that just winging things means a LOT more work and even a greater

[DNG] new system + graphics

Greetings Managed to get the new system running - - - yee haw!!! Now trying to get everything set up - - - lots of software to install - - - working on things. How do I get the open source drivers for my RX570 gpu installed AND working? lsmod says that I have amdgpu running - - - multiple

Re: [DNG] install on a raid 1 array

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 3:03 PM Simon wrote: > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > I have not ever installed like this so first the configuration. > > > > Ryzen 7 3800X > > Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro mobo > > 64 GB ram > > 2 - 1 TB M2 drives > > 2

Re: [DNG] do I need drivers for

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 11:53 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 09:13:35PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 5:16 PM tito via Dng wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 17:10:51 -0500 > > > o1bigtenor

Re: [DNG] do I need drivers for

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 5:16 PM tito via Dng wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 17:10:51 -0500 > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > Bought a mobo that said that there was room for 8 SATA ports and 2 M2 > > drives. > > > > It took look

[DNG] do I need drivers for

Greetings Bought a mobo that said that there was room for 8 SATA ports and 2 M2 drives. It took looking in the fine print to find that when using M2 drives that one loses an SATA port for each M2 drive. So in a system with 2 M2s and a pair of SSDs for the operating system I've only got space

[DNG] any gotchas in a new install?

Greetings Am having entirely too much fun (doa psu followed by the mobo) but hoping to be very soon installing Devuan testing (daedalus - - - - sic!) on a AMD 5800X cpu with a Radeon 570X gpu. When I've been looking for info there seems to be lots of chatter about how the Radeon gpus aren't

Re: [DNG] recommendations for filesystem

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 4:57 PM Rod Rodolico via Dng wrote: > > You did not say what you wanted to do with this. Workstation? Dedicated > file server? That makes a big difference. My main machine is sorta weird. Its a workstation and it supervises servers so its clearly everything and nothing at

[DNG] recommendations for filesystem

Greetings Setting up a 'non-simple' system - - - raid 1 arrays - 2 - - used for the operating system raid 10 array - 1 - - used for longer term storage last iteration I used ext4 for system file(s) (/ IIRC) and then btrfs for most everything else (raid-10 array uses ext4 because that's what I

Re: [DNG] install on a raid 1 array

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:57 PM tito via Dng wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 16:34:21 -0500 > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > When the parts get here I'm going to be installing Devuan testing on > > the system. > > > > I have not eve

[DNG] install on a raid 1 array

Greetings When the parts get here I'm going to be installing Devuan testing on the system. I have not ever installed like this so first the configuration. Ryzen 7 3800X Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro mobo 64 GB ram 2 - 1 TB M2 drives 2 - 1 TB SSDs I want to set the system up so that the drives are

Re: [DNG] New build + extras

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:48 AM Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:18:43 -0500, o1bigtenor wrote in message > : > > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 8:46 AM Steve Litt > > wrote: > > > > > > o1bigtenor via Dng said on Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -05

Re: [DNG] New build + extras

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 8:46 AM Steve Litt wrote: > > o1bigtenor via Dng said on Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 > > >Greetings > > > >I am investing in a new system. > >(Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > You're going to be very, very pleased with your fi

Re: [DNG] New build + extras

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 7:12 AM tito via Dng wrote: > > On Tue, 31 May 2022 05:27:37 -0500 > o1bigtenor wrote: > > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 1:00 AM tito via Dng wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 > > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:

Re: [DNG] New build + extras

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 1:00 AM tito via Dng wrote: > > On Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > I am investing in a new system. > > (Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > > > The old system has a rai

Re: [DNG] New build + extras

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 3:44 AM Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, 2022-05-30 at 17:03 -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > > > I am investing in a new system. > > (Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > > > The old sys

[DNG] further new build questions

Greetings Can you tell I don't do this very often? (Its been some number of years and I'm not remembering most of the details and I just don't like oopses!!) One of the things that I'm doing different in my new install is that the system itself is going to be on a raid-1 (mirror). So how can I

[DNG] Fwd: New build + extras

On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 8:55 PM Steve Litt wrote: > > o1bigtenor via Dng said on Mon, 30 May 2022 17:07:44 -0500 > > >On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 5:03 PM o1bigtenor > > >Not trying to start any kind of 'holy war' but was thinking of using > >SysV init unless there

Re: [DNG] New build + extras

On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 5:03 PM o1bigtenor wrote: > > Greetings > > I am investing in a new system. > (Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > The old system has a raid 10 array that I would like to put into the new > system. > > The new system is going to add 2 M2 drives that I want to set up as

[DNG] New build + extras

Greetings I am investing in a new system. (Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) The old system has a raid 10 array that I would like to put into the new system. The new system is going to add 2 M2 drives that I want to set up as raid 1 and this is for use for /EFI, /boot, /, /var, /usr and swap.

[DNG] assistance sought to repair install - - re:python

Greetings I was trying to clean up my /usr/bin directory so was discarding older versions of software. Had python3.10 available so thought (foolishly - - now clear) that python3.9 was a great candidate for discard. Nope nix and no way. Now I have myself more than a bit of a mess with my

Re: [DNG] information request

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 6:37 AM Antony Stone wrote: > > On Wednesday 20 April 2022 at 13:17:48, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > In the process of upgrading my system I now am stuck at a point where > > I don't know how to resolve the conundrum.

[DNG] information request

Greetings In the process of upgrading my system I now am stuck at a point where I don't know how to resolve the conundrum. /bin/sh: 1: /usr/bin/apt-listchanges: not found E: Sub-process /usr/bin/apt-listchanges --apt || test $? -lt 10 returned an error code (1) E: Failure running script

Re: [DNG] 'safe browsing'

Greetings mz googly is now pushing for her 'safe browsing' tool to be enabled. Methinks this is quite a trojan horse. What do those who really do know what they're doing (ie NOT me!!) think of this initiative? TIA ___ Dng mailing list

[DNG] browsers

Greetings Firefox is quite ticking me off. It has this penchant for NOT remembering the previous session even when the click box has been 'enabled'. I am quite uncomfortable with ms googly's desire to know everything about me but maybe I would use chromium IF I can stop the trackers. In FF I use

[DNG] moving from Debian testing to Daedalus

Greetings Looking at moving more systems from Debian over to Devuan. (Sorry - - - - I'm slow at this and the have been long running systems!) Are there any tools (process scripts) for switching like there are for moving from Debian stable to Chimaera? TIA

Re: [DNG] online purchasing (dunno - - - maybe OT)

On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 10:44 AM Ken Dibble wrote: > > On 3/9/22 11:11, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > > > Wondering what others are noticing. > > > > I made a purchase from an online store - - - its a smaller entity that > > covers some

Re: [DNG] online purchasing (dunno - - - maybe OT)

Greetings Wondering what others are noticing. I made a purchase from an online store - - - its a smaller entity that covers some interesting niches - - therefore the order. In doing the purchase - - - noticed, using uBlockOrigin and PrivacyBadger, that paypal 'only' has some 9 domains linked

Re: [DNG] Change to Devuan package version policy

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 3:27 AM Mark Hindley wrote: > > Hello, > > At the Devuan Dev meeting on Thursday 3rd February at 2030 UTC, it was agreed > to > change the Devuan package version numbering policy. The Devuan version that is > appended to forked packages will change from '+devuanN' to

Re: [DNG] IPv6 for dummies by a dummy (was: Configuring ethernet port for IPv6)

I hope that others might also contribute even questions and thereby a document in the 'how to' class is created. On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 5:03 PM Simon wrote: > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > Not only do I want to echo mr Joel but for mr Simon. > > This gives great

Re: [DNG] questions further into networking

On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 9:41 AM Michael Neuffer via Dng wrote: > > > > On 1/30/22 20:05, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > > > (Growing out of the 'Configuring ethernet port of ipv6' thread.) > > > > I have been considering settin

Re: [DNG] questions further into networking

On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 2:42 PM Simon wrote: > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > I have been considering setting up a 'Pihole' to enhance my network here. > > > > Is a Pihole a useful addition into a ipv6 network or ? > > (As already mentioned) The Pihole wor

[DNG] questions further into networking

Greetings (Growing out of the 'Configuring ethernet port of ipv6' thread.) I have been considering setting up a 'Pihole' to enhance my network here. Is a Pihole a useful addition into a ipv6 network or ? TIA ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 8:14 AM Simon wrote: > > Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > My problem is connecting via dhcp over ethernet. On IRC > > I was advised to try > > > > ping ff02::1%eth1 > > > > which fails to get a response, indicating IPv6 is not enabled in my client. > > > > I tried setting

Re: [DNG] connecting to a chromebook (OT??)

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 1:04 PM Rod Rodolico via Dng wrote: > > FYI, I'm doing the same thing. I have spent some time setting up a > Chromebook "securely" (in theory), though mainly to access a Linux > Terminal Server over a VPN. > > First, are you using the built in Linux subsystem? When I bring

Re: [DNG] connecting to a chromebook (OT??)

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:31 AM Antony Stone wrote: > > On Wednesday 26 January 2022 at 15:24:35, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > If this is too far off topic - - - please advise. > > It's not on-topic, but I'm pretty sure people will try t

[DNG] connecting to a chromebook (OT??)

Greetings If this is too far off topic - - - please advise. Just got myself a chromebook - - - - lots of hoopla la about tablets and though I'd try one. Its a fairly brain dead POS so I'm trying to find ways to make it useful! So I go into the terminal ad do ifconfig and ip a and what I'm

Re: [DNG] software question

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:02 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > > > Hendrik Boom writes: > > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 07:29:27PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > >> On January 21, 2022 7:15:06 PM GMT+01:00, o1bigtenor via Dng > >> wrote: > >&g

Re: [DNG] software question

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:59 AM Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > > How about PHPList? It works like constant contact or mailchimp. > mailchimp has a "free" level of service. So far mailchimp has been > enough for the small concert choir I do work for. > Hm - - - did a took a look at phplist - -

[DNG] software question

Greetings For a non-profit - - - this is not bulk email for sales - - - - bulk email for connection. Is there a linux program (foss hopefully) that will allow me to do this? (Sending regualr emails to a group of people (from 15 to 50 recipients).) TIA

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:33 AM Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 02:08:12PM -0700, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > > goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > Lars Noodén wrote: > > > > What quality of display(s) and color calibration are required? > > > > > > In all the years I have been doing

[DNG] Question re: security/info sent with emails and more

Greetings When I look at the headers from my emails and sometimes available in websites all this information about my system is included. Is there a way to block the sending of this particular information? Please?? TIA ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Qt, KDE, unbelievable

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 4:49 AM Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > Read this: > > https://www.neowin.net/news/ads-may-be-coming-to-kde-the-popular-linux-desktop/ > > LOL, I removed every bit of KDE, its executables and libraries, in > 2012. Mostly for the same reasons I refuse to host systemd. Now

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 4:23 PM Steve Litt wrote: > > Antony Stone said on Wed, 19 Jan 2022 22:03:23 +0100 > > >On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 21:59:46, Steve Litt wrote: > > > >> goli...@devuan.org said on Tue, 18 Jan 2022 20:49:41 > >> > > >> >Like this? https://transfer.sh/cTgmNi/if-rev2.png

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 8:37 AM Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > > > > On 20/1/22 1:03 am, Antony Stone wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 January 2022 at 15:02:00, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59:35PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Like this?

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 3:55 AM wrote: > > Curtis: > > > On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:49 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > On 2022-01-18 16:33, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > >> Maybe something like "init freedom - - - your first step . . . " >

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:59 AM Antony Stone wrote: > > Hi. > > I wanted to check the current list of init systems supported by Devuan, so I > went to the website to find out. > > I noticed the prominent motto "init freedom - watch your first step!" there, > and wonder whether this is an

Re: [DNG] Youtube is slow and advertisement laden: Was: Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:41 AM Mike Tubby wrote: > > I have Adblock Plus installed and never see adverts on Youtube at > home... only on the mobile. > So where are you installing the Adblock Plus to achieve this? This person does want to know - - -grin! (You know - - - 'inquiring minds want to

[DNG] Fwd: request for assistance

-- Forwarded message - From: o1bigtenor Date: Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] request for assistance To: On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 2:37 PM wrote: > > o1bigtenor: > ... > > I'm told to: > > > > rebuild the kernel with CONFIG_NOUVEAU_DEBUG_PUSH=y > ... > > That

[DNG] request for assistance

Greetings When I put this system together ( a LONG time ago) nvidia was not quite the pariah it has become in the open source community. So I'm stuck with nouveau for drivers (its a long explanation but trust me I'm STUCK there!). Nouveau is really not as wonderful as it purports to be and I

Re: [DNG] request for assistance

On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 10:22 PM Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > Hi, > > o1bigtenor via Dng writes: > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 6:14 AM wirelessduck--- via Dng > > wrote: > >> > >> On 7 Jan 2022, at 22:02, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > >> > &

Re: [DNG] request for assistance

On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 6:14 AM wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > > > On 7 Jan 2022, at 22:02, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > Basic question is: what happened? > > I wanted to update a beowulf system. > So did the apt update, apt upgrade,

Re: [DNG] request for assistance

On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 5:14 AM Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: > > Anno domini 2022 Fri, 7 Jan 05:01:46 -0600 > o1bigtenor via Dng scripsit: > > Greetings > > > > Basic question is: what happened? > > > > I wanted to update a beowulf system. > >

[DNG] Fwd: request for assistance

-- Forwarded message - From: o1bigtenor Date: Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] request for assistance To: Olaf Meeuwissen On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 5:12 AM Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > Hi, > > o1bigtenor via Dng writes: > > > Greetings > >

[DNG] request for assistance

Greetings Basic question is: what happened? I wanted to update a beowulf system. So did the apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade after changing the references in /etc/apt/sources.list from beowulf to chimaera. After reboot - - - well - - - screen says devuan but uname -r is 4.19.xx and not

[DNG] Fwd: Printer trouble again. (slight progress)

(sorry list - - - Imanaged to send this as private email only - - - - argh!!) Subject: Re: [DNG] Printer trouble again. (slight progress) To: Florian Zieboll On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 12:22 PM Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 12:40:24 -0500 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > >

Re: [DNG] more printer questions

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 10:25 AM Maurice McCarthy via Dng wrote: > > No, no. It is the other way around. A driverless printer means you do > _not _need any driver or other software to print. Seems to take a very long time before printing starts though. Then there is also the goofy ip address - -

[DNG] more printer questions

Greetings Following the thread 'Priter trouble again' there has been some discussion on finding the IP address of the printer. Thought I would look at my information. Printer is connected to my lan using a standard (I think it is anyway) ethernet cable. When I look in the 'Printers' tab I see

[DNG] request for assistance

Greetings Following the official directions: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/upgrade-to-chimaera I get : # apt update Ign:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera InRelease Ign:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-security InRelease Ign:3

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:51 AM Steve Litt wrote: > Marc Shapiro via Dng said on Mon, 13 Dec 2021 08:06:15 -0800 > > > >Do you have firefox running? I was under the impression that it > >requires pulseaudio. At least it did at one time. That is why I > >installed pulseaudio in the first

Re: [DNG] Wanting to set up an email system

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 3:26 AM Adrian Zaugg wrote: > In der Nachricht vom Monday, 29 November 2021 23:08:33 CET schrieb Adrian > Zaugg: > > Be prepared for a long, long journey setting up an email system with > > SMTP/ IMAP/Webmail using all the goodies SPF/SRS, BATV, DKIM, DNSSEC, TLS > >

[DNG] networking thinking

Greetings In anticipation of a fiber optical connection (moving from a wireless) I have been planning out and purchasing some bits of hardware. Am finding that networking is, at least sure seems to be, another black hole for time and effort. TL;DR (skip to last paragraphs for the question(s))

[DNG] Wanting to set up an email system

Greetings Started way back when when I got to the web full-time using webmail. Haven't ever setup an email system and AIUI it is a system - - - there are a lot of parts that have to work together to have everything working well. A mentor, now deceased, recommended using Claws but even that's not

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 3:50 PM Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > Peter Duffy wrote: > > I've recently been asked to recommend an upgrade route for a number of > > linux servers, and I proposed going to devuan. In response, I've had a > > concern raised which took me by surprise. It was suggested that

Re: [DNG] Embedded devuan (was Re: Devuan with usr merge?)

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:39 PM Steve Litt wrote: > Didier Kryn said on Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:36:23 +0100 > > > >Yes, very active and with pretty constructive exchanges and > >collaboration with Glibc. I'm on the mailing list. See > >http://musl.libc.org > > LOL, from

Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 1:01 AM Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > o1bigtenor writes: > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:47 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng < > dng@lists.dyne.org> > > wrote: > > > >> [... illustrating etckeeper commit messages ...] > > > > Mr Olaf > > (and the rest of devuan land) > > > > I

Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:47 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi wirelessduck, > > wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: > > >> On 20 Oct 2021, at 20:45, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng > wrote: > >> > >> I really looked into snapshotting but the etckeeper commit messages also > >> list which packages

Re: [DNG] Review of documentation needed

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 4:51 PM tempforever wrote: > So, my previous test did confirm that Devuan Chimaera without D-Bus is > still possible using the steps on dev1fanboy's documentation page. > Note, I don't really have anything against dbus (yet), I'm just checking > whether this is all still

Re: [DNG] [OT] Video cards on Linux (was Re: Information request re: wayland)

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 5:22 AM hal wrote: > > > On 9/5/21 14:42, o1bigtenor wrote: > > > > > https://pastebin.com/NvUtaCnQ > > > > > > Hmmm - - - - the page shows for about 1/2 a second and then goes blank. > > tried clicking on the individual sections - - -

Re: [DNG] [OT] Video cards on Linux (was Re: Information request re: wayland)

On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 8:52 AM hal wrote: > > > On 9/3/21 06:24, o1bigtenor wrote: > > > How did you get your 1050 Ti working under nouveau? > > How many monitors/sizes are you driving off of it? > > > > This is the card that I'm fighting!! > > Trying to drive 2 - 1920x1080 and 1 - 4k. > > Its

Re: [DNG] License for the DNG created software guide --> Proposal: DNG Verbatim Libre License (upd)

On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 10:37 AM al3xu5 wrote: > Sat, 4 Sep 2021 09:44:21 -0500 - o1bigtenor via Dng : > > > [...] > > > > > >And what use is a verbatim (or any other) license unless you have > > > > >the financial resources to challenge those

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 9:40 AM al3xu5 wrote: https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=12 > Sat, 4 Sep 2021 07:17:11 -0500 - o1bigtenor via Dng : > > > On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 3:24 AM Steve Litt > > wrote: > > > > > o1bigtenor said

Re: [DNG] License for the DNG created software guide --> Proposal: DNG Verbatim Libre License (upd)

On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 6:09 AM al3xu5 wrote: > Sat, 4 Sep 2021 04:14:12 -0400 - Steve Litt : > > > goli...@devuan.org said on Fri, 03 Sep 2021 11:18:43 -0500 > > > > >Jaromil . . . please advise regarding the policy for using the Devuan > > >trademark and DNG acronym on a license for a document

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 3:24 AM Steve Litt wrote: > o1bigtenor said on Fri, 3 Sep 2021 06:19:31 -0500 > > >as I plug the 5th monitor (4k) in I've got uptime down to less than 28 > >hours. > > Duude!!! > > I hereby resign from the conversation. All of my experience is with one > monitor of

Re: [DNG] [OT] Video cards on Linux (was Re: Information request re: wayland)

On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 5:31 AM hal wrote: > On 9/3/21 02:09, Steve Litt wrote: > > spiralofhope said on Thu, 2 Sep 2021 20:33:35 -0700 > > > >> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:16:58 -0500 > >> o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > >> > >>> He was of the

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 2:09 AM Steve Litt wrote: > spiralofhope said on Thu, 2 Sep 2021 20:33:35 -0700 > > >On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:16:58 -0500 > >o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > >> He was of the opinion that Wayland - - - whatever its exact function,

[DNG] Information request re: wayland

Greetings My long time mentor in things Linux (described himself as a fossil) is no longer with us. (He suggested that I strongly consider using Devuan which I now have on one system.) He was of the opinion that Wayland - - - whatever its exact function, was really not worth running. Yet it is

Re: [DNG] Devuan --> Debian?

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:42 PM Antony Stone < antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it> wrote: > On Thursday 19 August 2021 at 18:53:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:52:12PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > > > I've purged eudev and now I'm installing FreeSwitch :) > > > > >

Re: [DNG] a how to question (project(s) related)

Funny guy - - - - On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 10:36 AM tito via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 09:43:46 -0500 > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > I'm finding myself occasionally drowning in information resulting in me > > trying to improve the co

[DNG] a how to question (project(s) related)

Greetings I'm finding myself occasionally drowning in information resulting in me trying to improve the connection between what I'm working on AND the information that I'm collecting. An example (followed by some questions). I'm into gardening/raising my own food (simplified for here!!).

[DNG] Advice sought on kernel upgrade

Greetings I am running a fairly old rig on debian testing with 2 gpus and want to run 5 monitors. The 5th is hdmi connected and is a 4k monitor with the other 4 all being 1920x1080. After I installed the 4k monitor I had regular graphics sub-system freezes (won't come out of suspend typically)

Re: [DNG] Microsoft: Really?

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 9:57 PM Mark Rousell wrote: > On 12/08/2021 03:49, Steve Litt wrote: > > Check out this article: > https://www.computerworld.com/article/3628169/windows-365-costs-how-much.html > > Windows 365... > > So let me get this straight: > > [...] > > Of course the real effect of

Re: [DNG] Fwd: display manager problems

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:33 AM Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > HI, > > o1bigtenor via Dng writes: > > > -- Forwarded message - > > From: o1bigtenor > > Date: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 9:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [DNG] display manager problems > > To: Ol

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