Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-05 Thread tom
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:30:10 +0100 g4sra via Dng wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > This is my current thinking with regard to a LXC Container system for > building OS images and support software. The host workstation has all > the standard development tools ('build-essential' etc) that an

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-05 Thread tom
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 12:22:27 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 11:04:23AM +0100, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > I am seeking any Devuaners with an interest in lxc to bounce ideas > > off. > > > > I wish to move to multi-fully-containerised development but am > > repeatedly stumbling

Re: [DNG] Any parties interested in lxc ?

2020-10-04 Thread tom
On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 11:04:23 +0100 g4sra via Dng wrote: > I am seeking any Devuaners with an interest in lxc to bounce ideas > off. > > I wish to move to multi-fully-containerised development but am > repeatedly stumbling along the way. Unfortunately the official lxc > resources do not help much

Re: [DNG] dynamic resolver configuration [Was: Danger: Debian POSIX hostility]

2020-09-16 Thread tom
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 12:40:18 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-09-16 02:11, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Speaking of Netowrk manager, am I the only one who hates it messing > > with /etc/resolv.conf? You know what I'd like? I'd like > > /etc/resolv.conf to be a symlink to one of many files, such

Re: [DNG] Devuan Made The List

2020-09-16 Thread tom
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 14:56:55 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2020-09-15 14:02, Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote: > > 10 Best Debian-Based Linux Distributions > > > > https://www.tecmint.com/debian-based-linux-distributions/ > > > > > > Promoting Beowulf with a screenshot of the Jessie

Re: [DNG] RFC: wiki software

2020-09-08 Thread tom
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 10:39:26 -0700 spiralofhope wrote: > On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 09:05:39 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Of course there's also mediawiki, which is the basis for the > > WIkipedia. > > Unless something has changed, ACLs are explicitly absent from > MediaWiki. There have always

Re: [DNG] RFC: wiki software

2020-09-06 Thread tom
On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 19:56:32 -0700 tom wrote: > On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 20:29:24 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 23:42:39 -0400 > > Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 07:53:54PM -0700, tom wrote: > > >

Re: [DNG] RFC: wiki software

2020-09-06 Thread tom
On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 20:29:24 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 23:42:39 -0400 > Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 07:53:54PM -0700, tom wrote: > > > > > How many Gemini and Kristall (or any other Gemini client

Re: [DNG] RFC: wiki software

2020-09-04 Thread tom
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 00:51:01 -0400 Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > Hi all! We're looking for opinions about wiki software. First choice > at the moment is TWiki but we want more options and more perspective > to get us to the best possible decision. > > Goals, not in a particular order: > > *

Re: [DNG] my experience upgrading to NFT

2020-08-17 Thread tom
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 09:10:46 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-08-02 22:35, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Does iptables still work on beowulf? > > As long as you use update-alternatives to choose > /usr/sbin/iptables-legacy. Please see the other subthreads - I am new > to this topic myself, in

Re: [DNG] dev1galaxy.org down?

2020-08-17 Thread tom
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 09:49:16 +1000 Ozi Traveller via Dng wrote: > me either > > This site can’t be reached > > *dev1galaxy.org * unexpectedly closed the > connection. > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:28 PM pekman wrote: > > > yes. I don't access > > -- > > att,

Re: [DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread tom
On Sun, 17 May 2020 13:20:13 +0100 g4sra via Dng wrote: > I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but > panics 'killing init' on Devuan. Has anybody else experienced this ? > > The only difference I can discern is that the Devuan repository > executables (init) are

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-05-08 Thread tom
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 09:24:47 +0300 Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 4/7/20 9:05 AM, Rod Rodolico wrote: > > but it works so far with FF > > > doesn't work for everyone, that's why jitsi suggests the use of > chromium based browsers.. > >

Re: [DNG] Current state of VPN software ?

2020-05-07 Thread tom
On Tue, 5 May 2020 15:04:17 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > How did the SSH solution work out for you, performance wise? > > Why did you move from the SSH method to OpenVPN? > > Thanks, > > SteveT > > On Tue, 5 May 2020 06:15:45 -0600 > Chris Dos wrote: > > > On 4/8/20 2:14 PM, Simon Hobson

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread tom
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:56:07 +1000 terryc wrote: > This is a hardware question. > Which brand and model(s) of laptop have people successfully installed > devuan onto? > How difficult was it? > > Thank You In Advance. > > The long story; I finally have a need to purchase my own personal > laptop

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-08 Thread tom
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 11:34:19 +0300 Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 4/7/20 5:17 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > OMG how can you agree with Dal and then go on to suggest the use of > > something cloud based and written in Java ? > > jitsi can be installed anywhere. https://meet.jit.si is cloud based

Re: [DNG] A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?

2020-04-07 Thread tom
On Mon, 06 Apr 2020 20:51:37 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2020-04-06 20:46, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:46:03PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > >> On Apr 04, 2020, Raul Claro wrote: > >> > Dear Devlers, > >> > > >> >     is there a way of holding a video- or an

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?

2020-03-30 Thread tom
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 12:08:23 -0600 tekHedd wrote: > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting tekHedd (tekh...@byteheaven.net): > > > > > Cool software doesn't really happen without the ability for apps > > > to communicate and read/write the state of the system and > > >

Re: [DNG] ibus

2020-03-30 Thread tom
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 18:12:42 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 10:59:41 +0100 > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > > > Anno domini 2020 Tue, 17 Mar 10:27:11 +0100 > > Didier Kryn scripsit: > > > >     There's now a fashion of doing all innovations in a > > > complicated way. It seems

Re: [DNG] Help needed:[Fwd: eudev: Methods to detect if running in a container.]

2020-03-30 Thread tom
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:37:40 + aitor_czr wrote: > Hi, > > On 30/3/20 14:09, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > Fails to identify a Devuan Guest which has its own partition > > running in a VM hosted by Fedora. > > Are you referring to the *raw* host hard disk from a guest? > >

Re: [DNG] discord is spyware

2020-03-20 Thread tom
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 22:21:59 -0700 tom wrote: > the company > behind it previously called OpenFeint and Hammer & Chisel has been > under a class action lawsuit in the state of California for > various violations of consumer privacy, fraud, and abuse. https://arc

Re: [DNG] discord is spyware

2020-03-20 Thread tom
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:55:21 +1000 onefang wrote: > On 2020-03-21 15:44:10, terryc wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 08:38:32 -0400 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > Is anybody using Discord in Devuan for virtual get-togethers? > > > > Yes, in the sense that I can join such for various groups like

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-20 Thread tom
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 05:33:04 -0400 Dan Purgert wrote: > On Mar 19, 2020, tom wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 21:29:51 -0400 > > Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > > What, then, is so bad about PCI? Or hell, even ISA? > > > > > > Sure, i

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-19 Thread tom
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 21:29:51 -0400 Dan Purgert wrote: > On Mar 16, 2020, tom wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 08:38:04 -0400 > > Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > On Mar 15, 2020, tom wrote: > > > > [...] The biggest technical problem is the > > &

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-16 Thread tom
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 08:38:04 -0400 Dan Purgert wrote: > On Mar 15, 2020, tom wrote: > > [...] The biggest technical problem is the > > lack of ASIC northbridge, or rather something to interface the CPU > > to an PCIE bus. Currently the best thing available you c

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-16 Thread tom
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 17:20:51 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 01:20:24PM -0700, tom wrote: > > > > But this may be a stop-gap if you /really/ need to get an X86 > > machine you already have running. My advice is to stop buying X86 > > in the future

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-15 Thread tom
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:22:49 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Pulseaudio > - If you have no sound, make sure the following line in > /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/00-disable-autospawn.conf is commented as > shown here: > > #autospawn=no > > - Note that firefox-esr no longer requires

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread tom
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 06:05:49 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > Actually, we've got more to fear with hardware [and the lower level > firmware / EFI / SecureBoot / IME / vPro and other crap] these days > whether we avoid Winblows or not. > > The Intel and AMD flaws, Intel Management Engine

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-15 Thread tom
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:08:37 + Mark Rousell wrote: > I am not opposing your central message in any way, but... > > On 13/03/2020 02:59, Steve Litt wrote: > > involves programming, and most people can't > > do that. > > > > Oh really? 12 lines of code and they can't do it (or have a friend >

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?

2020-03-07 Thread tom
On Fri, 06 Mar 2020 15:25:55 -0700 tekHedd wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 02:09:37PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > Le 03/03/2020 à 23:37, tekHedd a écrit : > > > > > > > > So, I would consider rewriting polkit and dbus from scratch.

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?

2020-02-25 Thread tom
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 14:33:25 +0100 Tito via Dng wrote: > and only for known "safe" commands. For everything else, it'd be much > better to just log in on a tty as root. Same goes for su. > > for sudo only if set > > userALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > or if the user is added to the sudo group > >

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? dropin replacement

2020-02-24 Thread tom
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:46:46 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 24/02/2020 à 10:44, aitor a écrit : > > Hi Didier, > > > > En 24 de febrero de 2020 10:01:33 Didier Kryn > > escribió: > > > >> Le 24/02/2020 à 01:16, Aitor a écrit : > >>> > >>> Hi Tito, > >>> > >>> On 23/2/20 17:02, Tito via Dng

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? dropin replacement

2020-02-23 Thread tom
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 13:17:21 +0100 Aitor wrote: > Hi, > > On 23/2/20 12:34, Aitor wrote: > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > On 21/2/20 21:57, Steve Litt wrote: > >> Will it work even if I'm not using lxqt? Does it stand alone? > >> > >> SteveT > > I've just started developing a replacement for gksu

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? dropin replacement

2020-02-21 Thread tom
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:17:06 +0100 Tito via Dng wrote: > > > On 2/19/20 10:23 AM, tom wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 00:35:26 -0800 > > tom wrote: > > > >> Deprecated gksudo? Well thats pretty dumb. Any particular reason > >> Devuan doesn't

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? dropin replacement

2020-02-19 Thread tom
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 00:35:26 -0800 tom wrote: > Deprecated gksudo? Well thats pretty dumb. Any particular reason > Devuan doesn't just fish around for the old gksudo git repo and > continue that instead of dealing with this policykit mess of > complexity? You can allow users in

Re: [DNG] PSI+ (Qt) on XFCE (GTK) on Beowulf

2020-02-19 Thread tom
On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 10:30:11 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 18/02/2020 à 10:02, kernel panic! a écrit : > > Hello freedom Heroes, > > > > i will use PSI+ on my Beowulf, XFCE. if i start it on XFCE "nothing > > happend" The "XDG Runtime Dir" never exist on GTK? > > > > > >> :~$ psi-plus > >>

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? bring back gksudo

2020-02-19 Thread tom
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 00:35:26 -0800 tom wrote: > Deprecated gksudo? Well thats pretty dumb. Any particular reason > Devuan doesn't just fish around for the old gksudo git repo and > continue that instead of dealing with this policykit mess of > complexity? You can allow users in

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed? bring back gksudo

2020-02-19 Thread tom
Deprecated gksudo? Well thats pretty dumb. Any particular reason Devuan doesn't just fish around for the old gksudo git repo and continue that instead of dealing with this policykit mess of complexity? You can allow users in your a group for example 'installers' to run synaptic by editing sudo's

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] [PATCH] (security) launcher: don't attempt to execute arbitrary binaries

2020-02-13 Thread tom
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:27:40 +0100 Evilham via Dng wrote: > Hello Enrico, > > On dt., gen. 07 2020, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > What might supposed to be convenience functionality, poses a > > real-life > > security threat: > > > > A user can be tricked be tricked to download malicious code,

Re: [DNG] why is polkit needed?

2020-02-13 Thread tom
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 16:50:15 + Mark Hindley wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 05:44:17PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely via Dng > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > is there a recommended GUI package browser for Devuan? > > > > After migrating, synaptic isn't installed. If I try to install it, > > it says it

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-07 Thread tom
On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 15:58:11 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Wed, 1 Jan 08:00:22 -0500 > fsmithred via Dng scripsit: > > On 12/31/19 4:49 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > All upgraded since some months, no problems so far. > > > > > > Nik > > > > > > > Was that with

Re: [DNG] Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'

2019-12-29 Thread tom
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:11:16 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi, > > On 28/12/19 9:03 pm, Alexis PM via Dng wrote: > > A mediocre result, neither good nor bad. The best option for people > > who don't want to use systemd, Option 6

Re: [DNG] OT: KVM/QEMU incremental backups?

2019-11-20 Thread tom
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:08:41 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > Anno domini 2019 Wed, 20 Nov 22:59:28 -0800 > tom scripsit: > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 10:58:35 +0100 > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > > > > > was not able to access my

Re: [DNG] OT: KVM/QEMU incremental backups?

2019-11-20 Thread tom
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 10:58:35 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > was not able to access my data after a kernel upgrade Oh you'll LOVE Nvidia graphics cards then. (Sarcasm) -- / The course of true anything never does \ | run smooth.

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-12 Thread tom
There is another option I think is worth looking into. There's been word on Samsung adding another filesystem to the Linux kernel called the Flash Friendly FileSystem (F2FS). Perhaps instead of debating disabling the ext4 journal we could just replace it with F2FS? --

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-12 Thread tom
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:31:27 +0100 Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Hi all, > > The Raspberry Pi is very frequency used with an SD Card which is > highly intolerant of frequent writes as these are limited. My first SD > Card became read only after about six weeks with Devuan running. Using >

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-12 Thread tom
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:51:25 -0700 Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:58:06AM -0800, Bruce Ferrell wrote: > > There are actually a couple of ways around the SD wear issue, even > > though people seem to dearly LOVE SSDs with the exact same issue; > > I haven't seen anyone mention

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-09 Thread tom
On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 22:09:13 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 09/11/2019 20:53, tom wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 16:55:34 +0100 > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > > > >> Anno domini 2019 Fri, 8 Nov 16:36:24 +0100 > >> Joril via Dng scrip

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-09 Thread tom
On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 16:55:34 +0100 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > Anno domini 2019 Fri, 8 Nov 16:36:24 +0100 > Joril via Dng scripsit: > > On 08/11/19 16:21, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > FYI: ext4 filesystem journaling (and swap) *should* be disabled > > > by default on SD\SDHC media. > > > > To

Re: [DNG] Why is spamassasin compiling here?

2019-11-08 Thread tom
On Wed, 06 Nov 2019 07:45:56 -0600 hal wrote: > The past few days I have been getting this message from my Devuan > ASCII mail host. Anyone know what's up with this? > > I've installed the libc6-dev-i386 package to see if it solves it but > then I wondered what is spamassasin doing compiling

[DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-10-26 Thread tom
Hello, I wanted to warn those of you using the Raspberry Pi or other aarch64 Devuan ASCII installs. The defaults on the linux kernel flags have the options rootflags=noload. This has the effect of disabling ext4 filesystem journaling, checksumming, and all other safeguards. In addition to that

Re: [DNG] Devuan as a rescue CD?

2019-10-26 Thread tom
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 17:06:43 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Has any of you been using Devuan as a rescue CD? If so, how has it > been working out for you, and do you have any suggestions to make the > Devuan rescue experience easy and productive? > > System Rescue CD recently switched

Re: [DNG] Fonts in testing/unstable are some ugly

2019-10-26 Thread tom
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 13:51:07 +0200 Stephane Ascoet wrote: > > I would dream of a tool that lets me know what font is in what > > package. > > Hi, I think that can do it. You can extract fonts from programs with the GNU debugger. Simply dump the virtual memory

Re: [DNG] Problem installing Devuan-ascii

2019-10-26 Thread tom
Hello, I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'Legacy Mode'. I'll assume your talking about BIOS. If you want to use the installer to install grub2-bios make sure to boot the installer disk in BIOS mode. Vice versa to install grub2-EFI make sure to boot the disk in EFI mode. Depending on your

Re: [DNG] Security problem

2019-10-19 Thread tom
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 07:07:18 +0200 "J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote: > Am 2019-10-14 01:01, schrieb tom: > > Why in gods name does a centralized instant messenger require root > > privileges on your machine? > > Signal uses the electron framework for running in a sand

Re: [DNG] Security problem

2019-10-13 Thread tom
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 19:46:28 +0200 Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba wrote: > Hi, Jochen. > > El Mon, 30 Sep 2019 19:29:34 +0200 > "J. Fahrner via Dng" escribió: > > > I just came across a security problem. The application > > signal-desktop could not be started anymore because a file from the

Re: [DNG] I wrote IBM

2019-10-07 Thread tom
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 20:42:01 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 18:01:11 +0300 > Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > > of similar crap.. (even did so for nazis.) > > Hi Dimitris, > > I'd like to ask you a favor. Could you please no longer mention the > IBM->nazi connection? > > The

Re: [DNG] backups from ext4 to ntfs - extended attributes and access control lists

2019-05-30 Thread tom
On Tue, 28 May 2019 19:14:25 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Bruce Ferrell (bferr...@baywinds.org): > > > Sorry Rick... I missed that. > > No worries (as our Australian friends say). > > > I am absolutely astounded by the number of time I've seen *IX > > "admins" at fortune X companies copy

Re: [DNG] frustration with browsers.

2019-04-11 Thread tom
On Fri, 05 Apr 2019 15:21:06 + chillfan--- via Dng wrote: > Indeed there is Icecat that is DRM free. > > Iceweasel-UXP just covers some more of the criteria of what people > would consider less frustrating or is closer to a real fork since > they change things at the code level. > > It

Re: [DNG] Creating directory in /var/run on bootup

2019-02-12 Thread Tom via Dng
s with runit-sysv and runic-init? Or does s6 not provide all the features that runit provides? —Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Creating directory in /var/run on bootup

2019-02-12 Thread Tom via Dng
this running once on each bootup instead of running every minute with the cronjob. —Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Creating .deb packages with jenkins-debian-glue

2018-05-31 Thread Tom
of /usr/bin/build-and-provide-package at Thu 31 May 17:24:30 AEST 2018 [running 0 seconds] ***' *** Finished execution of /usr/bin/build-and-provide-package at Thu 31 May 17:24:30 AEST 2018 [running 0 seconds] *** + exit 1 Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure Archiving artifacts Finish

Re: [DNG] lsb_release on ascii

2018-04-20 Thread Tom
d then run "lsb-release -c -s", then it shows "n/a". Uncommenting those lines again shows "ascii" for "lsb-release -c -s". --Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] lsb_release on ascii

2018-04-15 Thread Tom
w do I fix devuan1 to show the correct output? Both machines have the same identical contents for /etc/os-release, /etc/debian_version, and /etc/devuan_version. —Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] PostScript vs PCL

2018-03-20 Thread Tom
for PS or PCL these days? --Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Error when upgrading eudev

2018-02-11 Thread Tom
: APT had planned for dpkg to do more than it reported back (0 vs 4). Affected packages: eudev:amd64 Thanks for all your help —Tom > On 12 Feb 2018, at 06:06, KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > > The error is there, and exists only if you have never had udev > installed.

[DNG] Error when upgrading eudev

2018-02-11 Thread Tom
ascii/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status —Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Intel Says you Should Not Install its Meltdown Firmware Fixes

2018-01-23 Thread Tom Cassidy
https://soylentnews.org/breakingnews/article.pl?sid=18/01/22/218258 Looks like Intel is saying to hold off on the microcode updates for the moment.___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Help with Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-17 Thread Tom Cassidy
It looks like the latest Firefox has mitigations in place for spectre and/or meltdown. Chrome will include them in the next update too I believe. https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2018/01/03/mitigations-landing-new-class-timing-attack/ > On 17 Jan 2018, at 23:00, jacksprat

Re: [DNG] Help with Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-17 Thread Tom Cassidy
You can install the intel-microcode package. AMD processors have a similar amd-microcode package. https://packages.debian.org/intel-microcode It looks like the updated microcode with the latest fixes is currently in Debian testing so I guess you could grab it from there directly and install

Re: [DNG] Apache2 CVE-2017-9798

2017-09-27 Thread Tom Cassidy
Ok thanks. In that case I will add the proposed updates repo and then wait for amprolla3. —Tom > On 28 Sep 2017, at 05:23, . fsmithred <fsmith...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't think anything is coming through ascii-security. This will probably > change when amprolla3 is ope

Re: [DNG] Apache2 CVE-2017-9798

2017-09-27 Thread Tom Cassidy
Is that documented anywhere? I would have thought it would come through to ascii-security as that one is listed on the Devuan website at https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list. There is no mention of ascii-proposed-updates on that page. —Tom > On 27 Sep 2017, at 22:22, . fsmithred <

[DNG] Apache2 CVE-2017-9798

2017-09-26 Thread Tom Cassidy
Does Devuan’s repository have updates for apache2 to fix CVE-2017-9798? I can only see 2.4.25-3+deb9u1 on ASCII while Debian Stretch has 2.4.25-3+deb9u3. —Tom___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Yunit

2017-09-20 Thread Tom Cassidy
ers wanting it in Devuan sans systemd, they might reconsider that approach? I will setup an ASCII test box sometime this week or next to try it out, as the Debian packages appear to be only for stable onwards. —Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Yunit

2017-09-20 Thread Tom Cassidy
Ubuntu was using Unity for a long time before systemd appeared on the scene. —Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Yunit

2017-09-20 Thread Tom Cassidy
Has anyone tried out Yunit on Devuan? It’s a community fork of the Unity 8 code that was abandoned after Ubuntu switched to Gnome for their next release. https://yunit.io/ https://yunit.io/yunit-packages-for-debian-stable-testing-and-unstable/

Re: [DNG] ASCII - clearlooks-Phenix-Purpy style issues

2017-08-21 Thread Tom Cassidy
I had filed bug #107 against xfce4-terminal in ascii for this issue but I guess I can close that now if it's caused by the theme. I have also solved my issue by switching to another theme. --Tomas > I never expected Clearlooks Phenix Purpy to work in ascii. Both Xfce and > (I'm pretty sure)

Re: [DNG] Which desktops are available in Devuan?

2017-08-16 Thread Tom Cassidy
Thanks for the link. Might check it out when I can find some spare hardware lying around. > Sorry, i didn't attach the link: > > http://gnuinos.org/Gnuinos%20Ascii%20Beta/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Which desktops are available in Devuan?

2017-08-15 Thread Tom Cassidy
There's no release for ascii yet. You'll just have to dist-upgrade from jessie if you want to try it. I've been running ascii + experimental/eudev on my work desktop and laptop for a few months without trouble. -- Tomas > I might just settle for the default XFCE for a while, after all: Life

Re: [DNG] Which desktops are available in Devuan?

2017-08-15 Thread Tom Cassidy
Have you thought about LXQt? Upstream LXDE stopped development a while back and merged with Razor-qt into the new project running on Qt instead of GTK. Unfortunately it's only in repositories for ascii and later, so not available on jessie. -- Tomas > I've downloaded the CD iso, and will try

Re: [DNG] WICD & DNS & IPv6

2017-07-20 Thread Tom Cassidy
> On 20 Jul 2017, at 18:44, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > > Hello, > > which connection manager can also work with 3/4g equipment? NetworkManager offers a GUI for this. Otherwise, wvdial is a console-based utility that will connect to USB 3/4g modems.

Re: [DNG] Install tomcat on devuan

2017-07-19 Thread Tom Cassidy
There is a tomcat8 package in the repositories. Have you tried that? > On 21 Apr 2017, at 06:22, "alberto.se...@tin.it" wrote: > > Hi to all, > > Is it possible install Apache Tomcat on Devuan ? > > Alberto Senni > > --- > Questa e-mail è stata controllata per

Re: [DNG] Uninstallable packages on ascii

2017-06-19 Thread Tom Cassidy
login screen. I'll try installing lightdm to see how that goes on Devuan compared to Ubuntu. Does anyone recommend other display managers on Devuan? -- Tom > On 19 Jun 2017, at 21:09, Rowland Penny <rpenny241...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 20:34:49 +1000 &

[DNG] Missing scrollbars and input widgets in firefox-esr for ascii

2017-06-17 Thread Tom
://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1234158 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1262136 Is there any reason why this would be re-appearing in Firefox ESR 52? Could this issue be what's causing the scrollbars to not show up on xfce4-terminal, if it's related to gtk3? -- Tom

Re: [DNG] Xfce4 task uninstalled on upgrade to ascii

2017-06-16 Thread Tom
On 17 June 2017 at 02:15, KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 01:54:53AM +1000, Tom wrote: > > [cut] > > Hi Tom, > > apt-get is telling you what is the problem (there are several packages > which were automatically installed and are no

Re: [DNG] Xfce4 task uninstalled on upgrade to ascii

2017-06-16 Thread Tom
spacing in between, and the vertical scrollbar has disappeared. I would post a screenshot somewhere, but I'm not sure where is the best place to put it for a mailing list. -- Tom ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Xfce4 task uninstalled on upgrade to ascii

2017-06-14 Thread Tom
+devuan1.0 is to be installed Depends: xfce4 but it is not going to be installed Recommends: xfce4-mixer but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. -- Tom ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] Upgrades to testing... Is DebianBug#864043 relevant to us?

2017-06-13 Thread Tom Cassidy
On 10 June 2017 at 22:37, Hendrik Boom wrote: > This is in response to a bug on the Debian documenation mailing list, > but I'm replying to Devuan instead because some of it may be relevant > here. > > I'm particularly concerned by the sentence at the end: > > > But I

Re: [DNG] A shell script for network connections

2017-01-01 Thread Tom Cassidy
in the shebang line, which sounds like it would help here. Tom [1] https://www.shellcheck.net/ <https://www.shellcheck.net/> [2] https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck#user-content-installing <https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck#user-content-installing> [3] https://github.

[Dng] Ста Деюс: As a russian, I have question for you.

2015-03-04 Thread Tom Collins
Ста Деюс: As a royssian what do you think of the murder of Boris? Do you like Vladimir Putin. And what do you make of this: ​Snowden ‘working exhaustively’ with US to secure terms of trial   Why does he want to go back? Are the women and girls of the Rus not good enough for him. Why do you

[Dng] VNC starts to be subsumed by systemd

2015-03-03 Thread Tom Collins
http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/02/1037248 VLC Media Player Gains Support For Logging To Systemd's Journal Honestly, I am starting to suspect that userland will need to be entirely forked to stay away from systemd. It seems every developer these days is infected with a mind virus:

Re: [Dng] V^DNLC starts to be subsumed by systemd

2015-03-03 Thread Tom Collins
to be subsumed by systemd On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 18:11 +0100, Tom Collins wrote: http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/02/1037248 VLC Media Player Gains Support For Logging To Systemds Journal Honestly, I am starting to suspect that userland will need to be entirely forked to stay away