Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Ron
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 17:18:13 -0400 Fungi4All wrote: > I am relatively new here, I've only seen a few messages and all I can say it > is > "this is not what I expected". I am an opponent of all censorship and an > advocate of the freedom to use a delete button. My

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Fungi4All
Hi, I am relatively new here, I've only seen a few messages and all I can say it is "this is not what I expected". I am an opponent of all censorship and an advocate of the freedom to use a delete button. My opinion in such a discussion is: It is ok to express a view publically when there is

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread zap
On 07/16/2017 04:35 PM, Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 07/16/2017 09:34 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: >> This thread has gotten ridiculously off-topic > > Smart people can choose to be smart or stupid, as it suits them > better. The stupid have no choice... ;> yep... mhm... >

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread zap
On 07/16/2017 03:34 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > This thread has gotten ridiculously off-topic. Please show some > restraint and consideration for the bloat this is putting into the dng > database. > > golinux > Oh sorry, I will stop replying if you wish to this message. and the other one if

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 07/16/2017 09:34 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: This thread has gotten ridiculously off-topic Smart people can choose to be smart or stupid, as it suits them better. The stupid have no choice... ;> ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 09:50:11 -0700, Rick wrote in message <20170716165011.gj28...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > ..sissy. ;o) > >

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread info at smallinnovtions.nl
On 16-07-17 21:34, goli...@dyne.org wrote: This thread has gotten ridiculously off-topic. Please show some restraint and consideration for the bloat this is putting into the dng database. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread golinux
This thread has gotten ridiculously off-topic. Please show some restraint and consideration for the bloat this is putting into the dng database. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 18:55:21 + Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170716-13:18-0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:59:35 + > > Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > > > Can't trust modern translations of Bible, actually so

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170716-13:18-0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:59:35 + > Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > Can't trust modern translations of Bible, actually so much undeserving > > of trust that they verge on disgusting... > > yet modern translations often

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Ron
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:59:35 + Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Can't trust modern translations of Bible, actually so much undeserving > of trust that they verge on disgusting... yet modern translations often are from better ancient texts, which helps in the accuracy.

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > ..sissy. ;o) > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Sissy+Boy+Traitor%22+OR+%22the+Nepotist+Warrior+Ace%22+OR+%22Flew+So+High+and+Far+he+Missed+Vietnam%22=web > http://www.groklaw.net/search.php?query=Sissy+Boy+George=phrase===0=all=0=search >

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170716-12:10+0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 22:46:14 -0700, Rick wrote in message > <20170716054614.gi28...@linuxmafia.com>: > > > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > > > But pls. people, I don't understand Latin so well... Nor have time > > > to

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 22:46:14 -0700, Rick wrote in message <20170716054614.gi28...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > But pls. people, I don't understand Latin so well... Nor have time > > to study. Already breaking down tired from lots of work with >

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > But pls. people, I don't understand Latin so well... Nor have time to study. > Already breaking down tired from lots of work with polishing my Devuan > today... > Could you pls. translate. There'll be others who would benefit... OK, but

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170715-15:52-0700, Rick Moen wrote: ... > It gives me hope that, some day, even Americans can learn proper > English.[1] ;-> Ah! > (Apologies to any Latinists for the .signature block. It's a sly > reference to current domestic affairs designed to be in good enough > dog-Latin that it can

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Ron
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 15:52:42 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > (Apologies to any Latinists for the .signature block. It's a sly > reference to current domestic affairs designed to be in good enough > dog-Latin that it can be deciphered by English-speakers. Unfortunately, > the same

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > No, people. Pls. one thing is important to notice: Edward did not make any > assertion out of any malice. > > And I'm not writing for reason any other than to try and make Edward, whom I > sincerely consider a friend, understand. > >

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170715-15:46-0400, zap wrote: > Oh, that explains it, next time start a new thread and people will be > more likely to respond... sorry just sayin... > > > On 07/14/2017 09:03 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > Since forums deal with people, how is it possible to put sociology, > > psychology and

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread zap
Oh, that explains it, next time start a new thread and people will be more likely to respond... sorry just sayin... On 07/14/2017 09:03 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Since forums deal with people, how is it possible to put sociology, > psychology and ethics aside as if the present time were a time

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread zap
Easy there, I wasn't aware of what your response was to, I haven't been watching these messages as much lately... On 07/15/2017 04:42 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Nice, nobody replied. > > This means, nobody has any valid counter arguments to what I wrote. > Moderation is a right nobody should

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Rick Moen writes: I'm curious who implied this. I didn't, for one. My impression is that you're talking about something nobody upthread has been talking about, and asserting that they did. You weren't around then — at least a year ago Edward made a bit of a nuisance of himself on this

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 15 July 2017 at 09:42:22, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Nice, nobody replied. Eh? On Friday 14 July 2017 at 18:41:34, Rick Moen replied. I agree very much with his comment: "My impression is that you're talking about something nobody upthread has been talking about, and asserting that

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Edward Bartolo
Nice, nobody replied. This means, nobody has any valid counter arguments to what I wrote. Moderation is a right nobody should deny if justice, equity and interpersonal respect is to prevail. Shutting down onself from dialogue is a clear sign there is no good will. This is equivalent to

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-14 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 07/15/2017 12:47 AM, Rick Moen wrote: Dylan fan, Hendrix fan, BSG fan, or all three? I wonder, I wonder... ;> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUq_T_Bhau8 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-14 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Hendrix fan, and I love Dylan's lyrics, especially when others are > singing them. > > And who the heck is BSG? BackStreet Girls? The exact famous scene is not openly online on account of NBC Universal's copyright, but you can hear the musical

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 15:47:10 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 21:44:51 +0200 > > Dragan FOSS wrote: > > > > > On 07/14/2017 07:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > philosopher > > >

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 03:47:10PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 21:44:51 +0200 > > Dragan FOSS wrote: > > > > > On 07/14/2017 07:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > philosopher > > > > > > NoI'm just

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-14 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 21:44:51 +0200 > Dragan FOSS wrote: > > > On 07/14/2017 07:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > philosopher > > > > NoI'm just a little grain of sand, on the Third Stone from the > > Sun :)

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 21:44:51 +0200 Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 07/14/2017 07:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > philosopher > > NoI'm just a little grain of sand, on the Third Stone from the > Sun :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7uJk0cb7Nw You may think that, but all along

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-14 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 07/14/2017 07:17 AM, Steve Litt wrote: philosopher NoI'm just a little grain of sand, on the Third Stone from the Sun :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7uJk0cb7Nw ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-14 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Edward Bartolo (edb...@gmail.com): > I am using 'lesser rights' to signify the implied message that people > with disabilities or with a weak personality are better to stay off > public forums. I'm curious who implied this. I didn't, for one. My impression is that you're talking

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-14 Thread Edward Bartolo
Since forums deal with people, how is it possible to put sociology, psychology and ethics aside as if the present time were a time from several decades ago? Society as a whole, has moved on to the extent, that minorities are given a voice that can easily be felt and heard both in the media and

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Dragan FOSS (dragan.f...@gmx.com): > All in all, all of the above guidelines can be defined in one line: > > "Don't f*ck with admins, we have root privileges.." :D Well, it's true. ;-> But at the same time, anyone who's read the Evil Overlord List knows you don't want to be hassled by

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 02:15:30 +0200 Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 07/14/2017 01:38 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > > I really do strongly recommend all of the above guidelines. > > All in all, all of the above guidelines can be defined in one line: > > "Don't f*ck with admins, we have

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170713-16:38-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Continuing my thoughts about listadmin best practices. We've covered: > > o Listadmin sanctions should be carefully minimal. (Often as not, the >misbehaving person is seeking public drama and wants nothing quite >a much as to be treated harshly,

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 07/14/2017 01:38 AM, Rick Moen wrote: I really do strongly recommend all of the above guidelines. All in all, all of the above guidelines can be defined in one line: "Don't f*ck with admins, we have root privileges.." :D ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Rick Moen
Continuing my thoughts about listadmin best practices. We've covered: o Listadmin sanctions should be carefully minimal. (Often as not, the misbehaving person is seeking public drama and wants nothing quite a much as to be treated harshly, towards a goal of claiming martyrdom at the

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Rick Moen
I wrote: > 5. Web forums have poor presence in Web search prominence and archives > like Wayback Machine / Internet Archive. (In fairness and in contrast, > crowdsourced knowledgebase sites like StackExchange are uncommonly good > in those areas.) Particular relevance of this is that, along

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170713-18:09+0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 13.07.2017 16:37, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > So true. I'm still banned from Gentoo Forums (also because I never asked to > > be > > back; I didn't feel I was to blame in the least). > > By the way: heared some rumors that some

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread zap
On 07/13/2017 12:09 PM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 13.07.2017 16:37, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > >> So true. I'm still banned from Gentoo Forums (also because I never >> asked to be >> back; I didn't feel I was to blame in the least). > > By the way: heared some rumors that some

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 13.07.2017 16:37, Miroslav Rovis wrote: So true. I'm still banned from Gentoo Forums (also because I never asked to be back; I didn't feel I was to blame in the least). By the way: heared some rumors that some people are banned from this list, too. --mtx

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170712-21:59-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > A mailing list is like vendors shipping to your house. > > > > Forums are like calling 15 stores to see whether they have any orders > > for you yet. > > I may have to FAQ this on my Web site, because

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > A mailing list is like vendors shipping to your house. > > Forums are like calling 15 stores to see whether they have any orders > for you yet. I may have to FAQ this on my Web site, because it keeps coming up. 1. There are far greater social

[DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 23:34:48 +0200 Svante Signell wrote: > (personally I heavily dislike forums :( Why not use plain email and > publish stuff on web pages??) A mailing list is like vendors shipping to your house. Forums are like calling 15 stores to see whether they