On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 18:30:25 +0100
Antoine via Dng wrote:
> On Tuesday, 4 January at 14:24, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote:
> > (...)
> >Portable shell use would be "whatever() {" which I wish to encourage
> >by saying that here. Please use only that form for /bin/sh scripts.
> >:-)
> >
> >The
On Tuesday, 4 January at 14:24, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote:
(...)
Portable shell use would be "whatever() {" which I wish to encourage
by saying that here. Please use only that form for /bin/sh scripts. :-)
The "function" keyword was introduced by ksh. This syntax is also
supported by bash and
Antoine via Dng wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
> > With my /bin/sh (which I believe is dash) I had to change:
> >
> > function whatever {
> >
> > to
> >
> > whatever() {
> >
> > on all three function declarations.
>
> Yes, now that you mention it, that tends to vary between shells. I should
>
On Wednesday, 22 December at 07:08, Steve Litt wrote:
(...)
PDC (Pretty Darn Cool)!
Thank you!
With my /bin/sh (which I believe is dash) I had to change:
function whatever {
to
whatever() {
on all three function declarations.
Yes, now that you mention it, that tends to vary between
Hi,
wirelessduck--- via Dng writes:
>> On 21 Dec 2021, at 07:37, Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> I use Openbox and have no problems, ever. When I take it on the road
>> and want a complete setup with panel, I use LXDE, which is a panel and
>> various programs to run with Openbox. If LXDE
On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:08:38 -0500
Steve Litt wrote:
> I'm used to these kinds of terminals not having window decorations.
> Any way to accomplish that?
I haven't tried Antoine's work, but Openbox's rc.xml has functionality
to do that sort of thing.
I've tinkered with wmctrl
Antoine via Dng said on Wed, 22 Dec 2021 00:01:04 +0100
>On Tuesday, 21 December at 20:03, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
>>(...)>
>>Still haven't made up my mind about a command-line terminal. Have
>>been using guake for a long time, looked at tilda for a bit but for
>>the time being use
Steve Litt [22/12/2021 12.15]:
The easy suggestion is you can install xfce to get its apps, including
the pretty nice xfce4-terminal
^^^
and extremely slow
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Olaf Meeuwissen said on Tue, 21 Dec 2021 20:03:52 +0900
>Haven't heard of i9, can't find any info about it either. You sure you
>don't mean i3?
Yes, I meant i3. I guess I was writing with too much power. :-)
>
>Actually, I am looking at ditching Xfce4. Too much stuff I don't use
>anyway.
wirelessduck--- via Dng said on Tue, 21 Dec 2021 18:30:04 +1100
>> On 21 Dec 2021, at 07:37, Steve Litt
>> wrote:
>>
>> Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:49:59 +0900
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ACK. I really wish the xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin dependency were
>>> downgraded to a
On Tuesday, 21 December at 20:03, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
(...)>
Still haven't made up my mind about a command-line terminal. Have been
using guake for a long time, looked at tilda for a bit but for the time
being use rxvt-unicode on my i3-wm systems. Note, support for Japanese
is a
Hi Steve,
Steve Litt writes:
> Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:49:59 +0900
>
>> [stuff about trying to get rid of *pulse packages on an Xfce4 system]
>
> About the only positive thing I can say about xfce is it's better than
> Gnome, KDE and the now defunct Unity. Except
> On 21 Dec 2021, at 07:37, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:49:59 +0900
>
>
>
>>
>> ACK. I really wish the xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin dependency were
>> downgraded to a Recommends:. Note to self, submit a bugreport!
>>
>> # Don't mind if someone
Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:49:59 +0900
>
>ACK. I really wish the xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin dependency were
>downgraded to a Recommends:. Note to self, submit a bugreport!
>
># Don't mind if someone else beats me to it. If so, submit to Debian
># BTS cuz this ain't no
Hi Didier,
Didier Kryn writes:
> Le 18/12/2021 à 14:55, Antony Stone a écrit:
>> On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 14:43:30, Didier Kryn wrote:
>>
>>> Aptitude why libpulse0 only lists xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, but it
>>> misses a lot, including indirectly xfce4.
>> Yes, this is in my opinion
Hi Didier,
Didier Kryn writes:
> Le 18/12/2021 à 15:22, Florian Zieboll via Dng a écrit:
>> On December 18, 2021 2:43:30 PM GMT+01:00, Didier Kryn wrote:
>>
>>> apt-get remove --purge libpulse0 wants to remove the following (which
>>> includes gimp):
>>>
>>> The following packages will be
On 12/17/21 14:29, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 17/12/2021 à 20:32, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
On 12/16/21 04:44, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 16/12/2021 à 07:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source. And it would
have to be recompiled every time
Le 18/12/2021 à 15:22, Florian Zieboll via Dng a écrit :
> On December 18, 2021 2:43:30 PM GMT+01:00, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
>> apt-get remove --purge libpulse0 wants to remove the following (which
>> includes gimp):
>>
>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>> atril* audacious*
On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 16:32:48, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 18/12/2021 à 14:55, Antony Stone a écrit :
> >
> > So, you did "aptitude why libpulse0" and it said
> > "xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin".
> >
> > However, was that:
> > "xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin Depends libpulse0" or
> >
Le 18/12/2021 à 14:55, Antony Stone a écrit :
> On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 14:43:30, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
>> Aptitude why libpulse0 only lists xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, but it
>> misses a lot, including indirectly xfce4.
> Yes, this is in my opinion one of the shortcomings of "aptitude
On December 18, 2021 2:43:30 PM GMT+01:00, Didier Kryn wrote:
> apt-get remove --purge libpulse0 wants to remove the following (which
> includes gimp):
>
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> atril* audacious* audacious-plugins* blueman* ffmpeg* font-manager*
> geeqie*
> gimp*
On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 14:43:30, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Aptitude why libpulse0 only lists xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, but it
> misses a lot, including indirectly xfce4.
Yes, this is in my opinion one of the shortcomings of "aptitude why" - it only
goes "one level up", whereas I would
Le 18/12/2021 à 12:25, Antony Stone a écrit :
>> Please can you post the output of "aptitude show gimp" from the machine
>> where you have seen this?
> Another useful output to see would be "aptitude why XXX" where XXX is any of
> the PA libraries you say you have found which gimp etc. depends
On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 11:22:10, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 11:14:59, Didier Kryn wrote:
> > I noticed, looking for packages the name of which include just the
> >
> > string "pulse", that a few PA libraries are still installed and cannot
> > be removed
On Saturday 18 December 2021 at 11:14:59, Didier Kryn wrote:
> I noticed, looking for packages the name of which include just the
> string "pulse", that a few PA libraries are still installed and cannot
> be removed because a lot of packages have a dependency on them, such as
> xfce4, atril
Le 17/12/2021 à 23:29, Didier Kryn a écrit :
> Le 17/12/2021 à 20:32, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
>> On 12/16/21 04:44, Didier Kryn wrote:
>>> Le 16/12/2021 à 07:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source. And it would
have to be
Le 17/12/2021 à 20:32, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
>
> On 12/16/21 04:44, Didier Kryn wrote:
>> Le 16/12/2021 à 07:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
>>> I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source. And it would
>>> have to be recompiled every time mozilla releases a new version.
Le 17/12/2021 à 20:37, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
> On 12/16/21 09:59, Steve Litt wrote:
>> Gregory Nowak via Dng said on Wed, 15 Dec 2021 19:32:11 -0700
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 03:34:09PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
>>> You need to use /usr/bin/apulse as a wrapper around every
On 12/16/21 09:59, Steve Litt wrote:
Gregory Nowak via Dng said on Wed, 15 Dec 2021 19:32:11 -0700
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 03:34:09PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
You need to use /usr/bin/apulse as a wrapper around every
application you want to use it.
Something got clipped wrong. It
On 12/16/21 04:44, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 16/12/2021 à 07:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source. And it would
have to be recompiled every time mozilla releases a new version.
Why do you need to track the very last version from Mozilla?
Gregory Nowak via Dng said on Wed, 15 Dec 2021 19:32:11 -0700
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 03:34:09PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> You need to use /usr/bin/apulse as a wrapper around every
> application you want to use it.
The preceding didn't work for me either.
SteveT
Steve Litt
Spring
Hi,
On 16/12/21 9:33, d...@d404.nl wrote:
Is it still working with pulseaudio after being compiled with
--enable-alsa? If yes we could add a Devuanized firefox to the
build process.
Yes, i tried removing alsa and reinstalling pulseaudio, and it still works.
Cheers,
Aitor.
Hi,
On 16/12/21 7:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source.
Packaging for i386 requires cross-compilation under 64 bits because it
takes a lot of ram:
http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/
Le 16/12/2021 à 07:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
>
> I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source. And it would
> have to be recompiled every time mozilla releases a new version.
>
Why do you need to track the very last version from Mozilla? The
package provided in Devuan
On 16-12-2021 01:58, aitor wrote:
Hi Steve,
On 16/12/21 1:09, Steve Litt wrote:
I'm not so sure. We're hearing anecdotes of people running Firefox with
only ALSA. Perhaps there's some secret magic incantation that we don't
yet know about.
FF needs to be compiled passing the flag:
On 12/15/21 16:58, aitor wrote:
Hi Steve,
On 16/12/21 1:09, Steve Litt wrote:
I'm not so sure. We're hearing anecdotes of people running Firefox with
only ALSA. Perhaps there's some secret magic incantation that we don't
yet know about.
FF needs to be compiled passing the flag:
On 12/15/21 18:32, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote:
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 03:34:09PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
Installed apulse. Still no sound in firefox, or xine.
Simply installing apulse doesn't mean applications will start using
it. You need to use /usr/bin/apulse as a wrapper
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 03:34:09PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> Installed apulse. Still no sound in firefox, or xine.
Simply installing apulse doesn't mean applications will start using
it. You need to use /usr/bin/apulse as a wrapper around every
application you want to use it. Sounds
Hi Steve,
On 16/12/21 1:09, Steve Litt wrote:
I'm not so sure. We're hearing anecdotes of people running Firefox with
only ALSA. Perhaps there's some secret magic incantation that we don't
yet know about.
FF needs to be compiled passing the flag:
ac_add_options --enable-alsa
I removed
Marc Shapiro via Dng said on Wed, 15 Dec 2021 15:34:09 -0800
>On 12/14/21 17:00, Steve Litt wrote:
>> Marc Shapiro via Dng said on Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:09:31 -0800
>>
[snip]
>> Have you power cycled yet?
>Thanks for reminding me!
>
>Powered down and rebooted. No sound in Firefox, or
On 12/14/21 17:00, Steve Litt wrote:
Marc Shapiro via Dng said on Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:09:31 -0800
On 12/14/21 06:00, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 14/12/2021 à 13:37, ael via Dng a écrit :
Firefox works fine on my systems for playing audio without
pulseaudio or apulse. So, I suggest verifying
Marc Shapiro via Dng said on Tue, 14 Dec 2021 14:09:31 -0800
>On 12/14/21 06:00, Didier Kryn wrote:
>> Le 14/12/2021 à 13:37, ael via Dng a écrit :
Firefox works fine on my systems for playing audio without
pulseaudio or apulse. So, I suggest verifying firefox works for
you
On 12/14/21 06:00, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 14/12/2021 à 13:37, ael via Dng a écrit :
Firefox works fine on my systems for playing audio without pulseaudio
or apulse. So, I suggest verifying firefox works for you without
apulse first.
Interesting. I only use firefox occasionally, but some
Le 14/12/2021 à 13:37, ael via Dng a écrit :
Firefox works fine on my systems for playing audio without pulseaudio
or apulse. So, I suggest verifying firefox works for you without
apulse first.
Interesting. I only use firefox occasionally, but some versions at least
need apulse.
On
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 08:05:15PM -0700, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 06:57:02PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> > Next, I may take out pulseaudio and verify
> > that firefox works on my system with apulse. Then I can be rid of both of
> > them.
>
> Firefox works
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