Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-28 Thread Irrwahn
KatolaZ wrote on 28.10.18 12:18: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:05:11PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 10/27/2018 09:56 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >>> I assume from your response that the util-linux issue is solved. >> The live-sdk failed retreiving util-linux. I downloaded the sources, but >>

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-28 Thread aitor_czr
Hi KatolaZ, On 10/28/2018 12:18 PM, KatolaZ wrote: Aitor, if you tried a couple of days ago, please consider tha util-linux was updated in ceres on Friday. Now debootstrapping/upgrading to ceres works again. My2cents KatolaZ Here you are the changelog: util-linux (2.32.1-0.1+devuan1)

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:05:11PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi, > > On 10/27/2018 09:56 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > I assume from your response that the util-linux issue is solved. > The live-sdk failed retreiving util-linux. I downloaded the sources, but > they didn't build succesfully at the

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-28 Thread aitor_czr
Hi, On 10/27/2018 09:56 PM, Steve Litt wrote: I assume from your response that the util-linux issue is solved. The live-sdk failed retreiving util-linux. I downloaded the sources, but they didn't build succesfully at the first attempt. I've just packaged it and now i'm going to build a repo

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:12:05 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 05:05:39PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > Am I now able to download the util-linux issue-solved ceres? > > > > Where can I get a Ceres qcow2 as to work on it in a qemu VM? > > I guess the easiest is

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-27 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 05:05:39PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > Am I now able to download the util-linux issue-solved ceres? > > Where can I get a Ceres qcow2 as to work on it in a qemu VM? I guess the easiest is to either upgrade from an ascii qcow:

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 00:26:11 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > > > Steve, please work on Ceres, not ASCII. > > > >* * > > \ o / > > \|/ > > |C O O L > > / \ _ > > / \/ > >/ > > - > > > > I'm glad you told me now, when

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-25 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 25/10/2018 à 05:37, chill...@protonmail.com a écrit : I like the idea of logs being in /var/log by default. But it would be great if this was modular so that we could disable this default behaviour, or even do without a logger package installed. So perhaps a switch to change this default

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-25 Thread Jim Jackson
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Thank you Olaf, > > $ logger -h > > Now to study what this is all about. man logger will give more information ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-25 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 03:37:16AM +, chill...@protonmail.com wrote: > I like the idea of logs being in /var/log by default. > > But it would be great if this was modular so that we could disable this > default behaviour, or even do without a logger package installed. So perhaps > a switch

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 00:26:11 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > > What's the best way for me to get a Ceres qcow2 as to work on it in > > a qemu VM? > > > > Just wait for a few hours, since we are solving an issue with > util-linux on ceres. Will keep you posted. Cool. I can't work on anything til

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread chillfan
I like the idea of logs being in /var/log by default. But it would be great if this was modular so that we could disable this default behaviour, or even do without a logger package installed. So perhaps a switch to change this default behaviour, so that the logger is just a recommended

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:05:54 -0400, Steve wrote in message <20181024180554.4f657...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 07:31:04 +0200 > "J. Fahrner" wrote: > > > > One wish: please use /bin/sh (dash) for the shell, don't use bash. > > Bash has a lot more overhead because it is

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 06:09:38PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:40:45 +0200 > KatolaZ wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 06:58:32PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most > > > daemons do log

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:40:45 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 06:58:32PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most > > daemons do log messages themselves, but for the ones that don't, > > I'll be using logger to

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 07:31:04 +0200 "J. Fahrner" wrote: > One wish: please use /bin/sh (dash) for the shell, don't use bash. > Bash has a lot more overhead because it is optimized for interactive > usage. Many developers don't mind about that and always use bash, > even for simple start scripts

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/24/2018 04:21 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: Hi, Jimmy Johnson writes: On 10/23/18 3:58 PM, Steve Litt wrote: using logger to capture stdout and stderr Steve, I found this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/124455/linux-how-to-redirect-stdout-stderr-to-logger What software do I

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:51:07AM +0200, Evilham wrote: [cut] > > I'll just add that when I use runit, I use svlogd. The main reason for > this being that it is guaranteed to just do the right thing with the > signals sent by sv and it is flexible enough. > > That being said, logger probably

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Jimmy Johnson writes: > On 10/23/18 3:58 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >> using logger to capture stdout and stderr > > Steve, I found this: > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/124455/linux-how-to-redirect-stdout-stderr-to-logger > > What software do I need to install to follow you?

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread Evilham
Am 24/10/2018 um 0:58 schrieb Steve Litt: > Hi all, > > I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most > daemons do log messages themselves, but for the ones that don't, I'll > be using logger to capture stdout and stderr and put them in the logs. > > If anybody has an

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:09:15AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > On 24/10/2018, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:38:59AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > >> This smells bad, really bad, I dare say, like a putrifying animal. Is > >> the difficulty to keep up with startup scripts so

[DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread Edward Bartolo
On 24/10/2018, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:38:59AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: >> This smells bad, really bad, I dare say, like a putrifying animal. Is >> the difficulty to keep up with startup scripts so great that Devuan >> will have to bow its head to using a single supported

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 06:58:32PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most > daemons do log messages themselves, but for the ones that don't, I'll > be using logger to capture stdout and stderr and put them in the logs. > > If

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 08:38:59AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > This smells bad, really bad, I dare say, like a putrifying animal. Is > the difficulty to keep up with startup scripts so great that Devuan > will have to bow its head to using a single supported init? This > reminds me of systemd.

[DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread Edward Bartolo
This smells bad, really bad, I dare say, like a putrifying animal. Is the difficulty to keep up with startup scripts so great that Devuan will have to bow its head to using a single supported init? This reminds me of systemd. The excuse was, that Debian did not have enough man-power to keep using

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread aitor_czr
On 10/24/2018 12:58 AM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most daemons do log messages themselves, but for the ones that don't, I'll be using logger to capture stdout and stderr and put them in the logs. If anybody has an objection to this,

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-23 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-10-24 00:58, schrieb Steve Litt: I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most daemons do log messages themselves, but for the ones that don't, I'll be using logger to capture stdout and stderr and put them in the logs. If anybody has an objection to this, speak now

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/23/18 3:58 PM, Steve Litt wrote: using logger to capture stdout and stderr Steve, I found this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/124455/linux-how-to-redirect-stdout-stderr-to-logger What software do I need to install to follow you? Package 'logger' is a bit obscure.

[DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-23 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most daemons do log messages themselves, but for the ones that don't, I'll be using logger to capture stdout and stderr and put them in the logs. If anybody has an objection to this, speak now or forever hold your peace.