Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-17 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/14/18 12:45 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2018-10-14 01:52, Rick Moen wrote: Anyhow, it can be vital to know _what_ server is answering (well or otherwise) your system's DNS questions by default.  Looking at /etc/resolv.conf should answer that question. I don't have anything in

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-17 Thread Alessandro Selli
  Hi, Steve! On 17/10/18 at 07:34, Steve Litt wrote: > Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES! > I just got thru updating my unbound doc at > http://troubleshooters.com/linux/unbound_nsd/unbound.htm , and added a > new glossary.   i noticed a couple of lines are missing in the reverse-zone definitions of the

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > Can't say for sure. Wouldn't Comcast/Spectrum/RoadRunner(TWC) be > able to throttle traffic more effectively using their in-house DNS > service? Maybe unbound escapes their reach? I don't think this is likely for various reasons including the fact

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:31:41 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote in message : > On 2018-10-15 22:22, mett wrote: > > On 2018年10月16日 11:16:30 JST, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > >>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote > >>> > >> It is incredibly annoying to be connected to

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-17 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-15 22:22, mett wrote: On 2018年10月16日 11:16:30 JST, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote It is incredibly annoying to be connected to a rather fast pipe yet have to travel on what feels like 56k connection to get to where I can

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > I just got thru updating my unbound doc at > http://troubleshooters.com/linux/unbound_nsd/unbound.htm , and added a > new glossary. This is very necessary because there are so many > contradictory terms for things over the Internet. I'm not saying

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:46:29 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 16/10/2018 à 07:10, Rick Moen a écrit : > > Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > > > >> With help from my Devuan friends the connection times have improved > >> significantly. After little poking around and a very

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 02:30:09 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > wicd finds a connection automatically. I think it uses DHCP. All > these years I have managed to avoid the fine points of networking > because it's always "just worked". > > Anyway, /etc/resolv.conf is one of the primary

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 09:13:12 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: >     Hi Golinux. > >     Did you try to list your favorite sites in /etc/hosts ? This is > a primitive and oldfashioned, but very simple, way to see if you hit > a DNS issue or are routed to a slow lane. > >     Didier Nice! SteveT

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-16 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 16/10/2018 à 20:28, Rick Moen a écrit : Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):     Any reading to recommend about recursive, authoritative or what else name servers ? Not trying to be perverse, but: What would you like to know? I'll give you two answers, where the first one is my effort

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-16 Thread Evilham
Am 16/10/2018 um 10:46 schrieb Didier Kryn: > >     Any reading to recommend about recursive, authoritative or what else > name servers ? IIRC it doesn't cover everything and by no means is it technical, detailed or deep, but it's way too cute not to mention it: https://howdns.works/ --

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): >     Any reading to recommend about recursive, authoritative or > what else name servers ? Not trying to be perverse, but: What would you like to know? I'll give you two answers, where the first one is my effort to avoid seeming to promote my own writings.

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-16 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 16/10/2018 à 07:10, Rick Moen a écrit : Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): With help from my Devuan friends the connection times have improved significantly. After little poking around and a very interesting talk with my ISP, I decided that the ISP's DNS resolver was contributing

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-15 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > With help from my Devuan friends the connection times have improved > significantly. After little poking around and a very interesting > talk with my ISP, I decided that the ISP's DNS resolver was > contributing significantly to the slow connection

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-15 Thread mett
On 2018年10月16日 11:16:30 JST, goli...@dyne.org wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote >> >It is incredibly annoying to be connected to a rather fast pipe yet >have >to travel on what feels like 56k connection to get to where I can >benefit from it. >> >>

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-15 Thread golinux
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote It is incredibly annoying to be connected to a rather fast pipe yet have to travel on what feels like 56k connection to get to where I can benefit from it. golinux With help from my Devuan friends the connection times have

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): >     Avahi daemon is the Linux dnssd service. dnssd is a protocol > for service discovery on LAN (formerly known as Apple "Bonjour"). > The essential utility for me is to allow to discover CUPS servers on > the LAN, because recent versions of CUPS advertise

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 11:52:34PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > > > > If you look in /etc/resolv.conf, you'll see one or more 'nameserver' > > lines. Mine on my server is like this: > > > > $ cat /etc/resolv.conf > > search linuxmafia.com

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread Simon Hobson
Rick Moen wrote: > It's the most versatile and reliable tool around for testing DNS > functionality -- which in turn is useful to be able to test separately > from the separate task of actually making connections for services after > resolving DNS names to find where to reach them. +1 for that

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-10-14 14:23, schrieb Hendrik Boom: And OT do I even need avahi installed at all? What is it needed for? try "aptitude why avahi-daemon" to see why it was installed. Your normally don't need it. Maybe it was installed as a recommend. Avahi is a zeroconf tool like Apples Bonjour to

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 14/10/2018 à 09:45, goli...@dyne.org a écrit : I don't have anything in /etc/resolvconf except an avahi-daemon in /update-libc.d/  Maybe I should start by putting 8.8.8.8 in /etc/resolvconf? And OT do I even need avahi installed at all?     Avahi daemon is the Linux dnssd service.

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 08:23:09 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 02:45:07AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > ... > > > > And OT do I even need avahi installed at all? > > What is it needed for? I do not really know, if you have DNS set up correctly, it isn't required and guess

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 02:45:07AM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: ... > > And OT do I even need avahi installed at all? What is it needed for? > > OK. I am a complete idiot and ignored the dot in the filename so didn't > even see the resolv.conf file. This is what's in it: > > domain

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 11:52:34PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > > > Well, I picked a few names at random. netflix pops up as soon as I > > hit enter. Ditto Microsoft, outlook, Apple, twitter, instagram, > > reddit, snapchat and facebook. Redhat is in a

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > I don't have anything in /etc/resolvconf except an avahi-daemon in > /update-libc.d/ Maybe I should start by putting 8.8.8.8 in > /etc/resolvconf? I didn't say _/etc/resolvconf_ (which is a directory). I said _/etc/resolv.conf_ (which is a regular

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-14 01:52, Rick Moen wrote: Anyhow, it can be vital to know _what_ server is answering (well or otherwise) your system's DNS questions by default. Looking at /etc/resolv.conf should answer that question. I don't have anything in /etc/resolvconf except an avahi-daemon in

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-14 01:52, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): Well, I picked a few names at random. netflix pops up as soon as I hit enter. Ditto Microsoft, outlook, Apple, twitter, instagram, reddit, snapchat and facebook. Redhat is in a slower lane as is the Linux

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 14/10/2018 à 04:38, goli...@dyne.org a écrit : On 2018-10-13 20:59, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2018-10-13 09:05, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:21:19 -0500 > goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > > Greetings everyone, > > > >

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-14 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > Well, I picked a few names at random. netflix pops up as soon as I > hit enter. Ditto Microsoft, outlook, Apple, twitter, instagram, > reddit, snapchat and facebook. Redhat is in a slower lane as is the > Linux Foundation. Even Ubuntu takes a while.

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-13 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-13 22:22, mett wrote: On 2018年10月14日 10:59:54 JST, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2018-10-13 09:05, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:21:19 -0500 > goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > Something

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-13 Thread mett
On 2018年10月14日 10:59:54 JST, Hendrik Boom wrote: >On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: >> On 2018-10-13 09:05, Steve Litt wrote: >> > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:21:19 -0500 >> > goli...@dyne.org wrote: >> > >> > > Greetings everyone, >> > > >> > > Something funny is

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-13 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-13 20:59, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2018-10-13 09:05, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:21:19 -0500 > goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > Something funny is going on with my networking.

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-13 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2018-10-13 09:05, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:21:19 -0500 > > goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > > > Something funny is going on with my networking. It's taking a very > > > long

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-13 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-13 09:05, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:21:19 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: Greetings everyone, Something funny is going on with my networking. It's taking a very long time to resolve host IPs across all browsers. It's been happening for a week or two but I'm just now

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 14:21:19 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > Something funny is going on with my networking. It's taking a very > long time to resolve host IPs across all browsers. It's been > happening for a week or two but I'm just now getting annoyed enough > to

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-13 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 13-10-18 00:26, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > >>> Disabling IPv6 can be done with adding in /etc/sysctl.conf: >>> >>> net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 >>> >>> and executing sysctl -p or reboot >>> >>> Grtz. >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> >> Thanks Nick. Much

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 10/12/18 4:55 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 04:35:17PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: Thanks for the responses. I suspect that IPv6 might indeed be the culprit. I doubt it, since both traceroutes are using IPv4, and both have odd delays. $ traceroute google.com

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 04:35:17PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Thanks for the responses. I suspect that IPv6 might indeed be the culprit. I doubt it, since both traceroutes are using IPv4, and both have odd delays. > $ traceroute google.com > traceroute to google.com (74.125.129.102), 30

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it): > True, if it's IPv6 *only*. > > That's pretty unusual at present. My point being that this assumption should be borne in mind and if necessary revisited, if shutting off IPV6. ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 13 October 2018 at 00:26:04, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting goli...@dyne.org: > > >Disabling IPv6 can be done with adding in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > > > > >net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 > > > > > >and executing sysctl -p or reboot > > > Well, might make it really difficult to use

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > >Disabling IPv6 can be done with adding in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > > >net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 > > > >and executing sysctl -p or reboot > > > >Grtz. > > > >Nick > > > > > > Thanks Nick. Much appreciated. Will sort that later and report

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-12 17:06, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: On 12-10-18 23:35, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2018-10-12 15:25, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl): I had something similar but with ssh. Some debugging learned that IPv6 was

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 12-10-18 23:35, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2018-10-12 15:25, Rick Moen wrote: >> Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl): >> >>> I had something similar but with ssh. Some debugging learned that IPv6 >>> was preferred but my ISP connection does not have IPv6. After

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread golinux
On 2018-10-12 15:25, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl): I had something similar but with ssh. Some debugging learned that IPv6 was preferred but my ISP connection does not have IPv6. After 60 seconds ssh time out and changed back to IPv4 and

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl): > I had something similar but with ssh. Some debugging learned that IPv6 > was preferred but my ISP connection does not have IPv6. After 60 seconds > ssh time out and changed back to IPv4 and made connection after all. > After

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 12-10-18 21:21, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > Something funny is going on with my networking.  It's taking a very > long time to resolve host IPs across all browsers. It's been happening > for a week or two but I'm just now getting annoyed enough to > troubleshoot. > > When

[DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread golinux
Greetings everyone, Something funny is going on with my networking. It's taking a very long time to resolve host IPs across all browsers. It's been happening for a week or two but I'm just now getting annoyed enough to troubleshoot. When I ping Google at 8.8.8.8 or various websites, they