Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-07 Thread Radisson via Dng 

thx,
i have figured out after some discussion and tried
yesterday with success :)
After that random work i would suggest to add a mechanism
to allow a free partition scheme. IMHO everything is already
there.

hope that helps,

rad


Am 04.02.21 um 19:24 schrieb fsmithred via Dng:

On 2/3/21 4:43 PM, Radisson via Dng wrote:

Am 03.02.21 um 02:59 schrieb fsmithred via Dng:

You can have a separate /home or /boot, but if you want to  re-use an old
/home partition, you must do that manually after the install.

I would like to setup a server, with separate /var and raid and so on. The
box i use for testing is clean, no need to be careful.
What is the recomended way to create a complex setup and install ?

It seems that the way via USB stick is not the right idea.


The usb stick is not the problem. The live installer won't do what you
want. Use one of the installer isos - netinstall or server iso are best
choices for what you want, but even the desktop dvd will do it.

fsmithred

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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-04 Thread fsmithred via Dng 
On 2/3/21 4:43 PM, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> 
> Am 03.02.21 um 02:59 schrieb fsmithred via Dng:
>>
>> You can have a separate /home or /boot, but if you want to  re-use an old
>> /home partition, you must do that manually after the install.
> I would like to setup a server, with separate /var and raid and so on. The
> box i use for testing is clean, no need to be careful.
> What is the recomended way to create a complex setup and install ?
> 
> It seems that the way via USB stick is not the right idea.
> 

The usb stick is not the problem. The live installer won't do what you
want. Use one of the installer isos - netinstall or server iso are best
choices for what you want, but even the desktop dvd will do it.

fsmithred

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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-03 Thread Radisson via Dng 


Am 03.02.21 um 02:59 schrieb fsmithred via Dng:

On 2/2/21 7:48 PM, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote:

On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 04:57:35PM +0100, rad via Dng wrote:

The programm calls  refrectinstaller-wrapper.sh

OK, it sounds like you're using Refracta, which is another
distribution based on devuan.


so what program should i start from the USB-stick ?

Sorry I tuned into this so late. I would guess that rad is using the
desktop-live iso, which does use refractainstaller.

rad, what partition layout did you want? What do you mean by "private
partition"?

The installer on the live isos just copies the running live system to hard
drive. Take a look at the install guide (also on the desktop). There's a
help page you can access from inside the installer.

It says i should use gparted to make partitions.


You can have a separate /home or /boot, but if you want to  re-use an old
/home partition, you must do that manually after the install.

I would like to setup a server, with separate /var and raid and so on. The
box i use for testing is clean, no need to be careful.
What is the recomended way to create a complex setup and install ?

It seems that the way via USB stick is not the right idea.

CU


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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-02 Thread fsmithred via Dng 
On 2/2/21 7:48 PM, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 04:57:35PM +0100, rad via Dng wrote:
>> The programm calls  refrectinstaller-wrapper.sh
> 
> OK, it sounds like you're using Refracta, which is another
> distribution based on devuan.
> 
>>
>> so what program should i start from the USB-stick ?

Sorry I tuned into this so late. I would guess that rad is using the
desktop-live iso, which does use refractainstaller.

rad, what partition layout did you want? What do you mean by "private
partition"?

The installer on the live isos just copies the running live system to hard
drive. Take a look at the install guide (also on the desktop). There's a
help page you can access from inside the installer.

You can have a separate /home or /boot, but if you want to re-use an old
/home partition, you must do that manually after the install.

fsmithred
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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-02 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng 
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 04:57:35PM +0100, rad via Dng wrote:
> I have no problem with a curses version but i suspect that i use the wrong
> program. Sometimes I fill blind.
> The programm calls  refrectinstaller-wrapper.sh

OK, it sounds like you're using Refracta, which is another
distribution based on devuan.

> 
> so what program should i start from the USB-stick ?

Which ever one you would like. If you want to use Refracta, that's
fine. I believe the maintainer of Refracta is on this list, and so are
other Refracta users hopefully as well. For reference, it sounded to
me like you were using the devuan installer such as:



This can be booted from a USB flash drive also, and this is what I
use. Again, I'm not trying to dissuade you from using Refracta if that
is what you want to use. This illustrates the importance of describing
exactly what someone is using, and what documentation they are
following.

Greg


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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-02 Thread rad via Dng 
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. Februar 2021 um 00:13 Uhr
> Von: "Gregory Nowak" 
> An: radisso...@gmx.de, dng@lists.dyne.org
> Betreff: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
>
> Radisson, unless you have a specific reason to reply to me directly,
> please reply to the list instead. Having the entire group see the
> discussion means that maybe others can help you where I'm not able
> to. Redirecting back to the list.
>
it was not intentionaly, i just did reply,


>
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 05:10:34PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 01. Februar 2021 um 03:33 Uhr
> > > Von: "Gregory Nowak" 
> > > An: radisso...@gmx.de, dng@lists.dyne.org
> > > Betreff: Re: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> > >
> > > Redirecting back to the list.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 04:34:56PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2021 um 04:09 Uhr
> > > > > Von: "Gregory Nowak via Dng" 
> > > > > An: "Radisson via Dng" 
> > > > > Betreff: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:15:53PM +0100, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> > > > > > Hello list,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can tell you that using the text based installer for Beowulf, I was
> > > > > able to do manual partitioning without problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're able to boot into the installed system, then /etc/fstab was
> > > > > indeed created. At least some parts of the system will end up being
> > > > > installed into /.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You got me wrong,  i started the
> > > > installer. i successfully created the whole partitioning but the whole 
> > > > setup
> > > > was ignored the installer used / and installed everything there.
> > >
> > > OK, I'll repeat back what you said as far as I understand it. You said you
> > > used the installer to create a custom partitioning scheme, but the
> > > installer ignored your partitioning scheme, and installed the entire
> > > system into /, instead of mounting various partitions in the
> > > appropriate mount points under /. Correct? If yes, then a /etc/fstab
> > > must still have been created,
> >
> > It has been but only with / and swap
> >
> > else the system wouldn't boot; it just
> > > wasn't the /etc/fstab you wanted. What I said is still correct. I was
> > > able to use the devuan 3.0 text installer to create a custom
> > > partitioning scheme inside the installer, and have various directories
> > > placed in the partitions I wanted.
> >
> > the point "text installer" make me nervios
> >
>
> That's understandable, not everyone likes a purely text interface,
> where what you want to do is chosen by typing numbers from a list. I
> mention the text installer only because that is the one which I have
> used, so can't speak to any of the GUI versions.

I have no problem with a curses version but i suspect that i use the wrong
program. Sometimes I fill blind.
The programm calls  refrectinstaller-wrapper.sh

so what program should i start from the USB-stick ?


>
> > > You still haven't explained exactly what you did, or which docs you
> > > followed, so confirming that what you want to do is possible at least
> > > in the text installer for devuan 3.0 is the best I can do to help you
> > > at this point. When you create a partition in the installer, you need
> > > to be sure to specify how the partition is to be used (E.G. swap,
> > > ext4), and where it is to be mounted in the target directory tree.
> > >
> >
> > I used the installer from Beowulf image (copied to usb-stick), is there 
> > anything else ?
> >
> > I did:
> > -boot from Stick -> gfx comes up
> > -choose icon  install devuan
> > -- after showing me the partitions, i run gparted
> > and end up with a single partition install
> >
> > were is the wrong turn ?
>
> I haven't used the graphical Beowulf installer,

Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-01 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng 
Radisson, unless you have a specific reason to reply to me directly,
please reply to the list instead. Having the entire group see the
discussion means that maybe others can help you where I'm not able
to. Redirecting back to the list.


On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 05:10:34PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Gesendet: Montag, 01. Februar 2021 um 03:33 Uhr
> > Von: "Gregory Nowak" 
> > An: radisso...@gmx.de, dng@lists.dyne.org
> > Betreff: Re: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> >
> > Redirecting back to the list.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 04:34:56PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2021 um 04:09 Uhr
> > > > Von: "Gregory Nowak via Dng" 
> > > > An: "Radisson via Dng" 
> > > > Betreff: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:15:53PM +0100, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> > > > > Hello list,
> > > > >
> > > > > i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.
> > > > >
> > > > > I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.
> > > >
> > > > I can tell you that using the text based installer for Beowulf, I was
> > > > able to do manual partitioning without problems.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.
> > > >
> > > > If you're able to boot into the installed system, then /etc/fstab was
> > > > indeed created. At least some parts of the system will end up being
> > > > installed into /.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You got me wrong,  i started the
> > > installer. i successfully created the whole partitioning but the whole 
> > > setup
> > > was ignored the installer used / and installed everything there.
> >
> > OK, I'll repeat back what you said as far as I understand it. You said you
> > used the installer to create a custom partitioning scheme, but the
> > installer ignored your partitioning scheme, and installed the entire
> > system into /, instead of mounting various partitions in the
> > appropriate mount points under /. Correct? If yes, then a /etc/fstab
> > must still have been created,
> 
> It has been but only with / and swap
> 
> else the system wouldn't boot; it just
> > wasn't the /etc/fstab you wanted. What I said is still correct. I was
> > able to use the devuan 3.0 text installer to create a custom
> > partitioning scheme inside the installer, and have various directories
> > placed in the partitions I wanted.
> 
> the point "text installer" make me nervios
> 

That's understandable, not everyone likes a purely text interface,
where what you want to do is chosen by typing numbers from a list. I
mention the text installer only because that is the one which I have
used, so can't speak to any of the GUI versions.

> > You still haven't explained exactly what you did, or which docs you
> > followed, so confirming that what you want to do is possible at least
> > in the text installer for devuan 3.0 is the best I can do to help you
> > at this point. When you create a partition in the installer, you need
> > to be sure to specify how the partition is to be used (E.G. swap,
> > ext4), and where it is to be mounted in the target directory tree.
> >
> 
> I used the installer from Beowulf image (copied to usb-stick), is there 
> anything else ?
> 
> I did:
> -boot from Stick -> gfx comes up
> -choose icon  install devuan
> -- after showing me the partitions, i run gparted
> and end up with a single partition install
> 
> were is the wrong turn ?

I haven't used the graphical Beowulf installer, and I use partman
instead of gparted during the install, so this is as far as I can help
you. Hopefully others more familiar with the process you're using will
be able to help you figure out how to create a custom partitioning
scheme with gparted.

Greg

> 
> 
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > > I guess i missed a point but i followed the docs so far.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this expected or did i miss an option somewhere ??
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Without knowing exactly what you did, what exactly happened, and what 
> > > > you were
> > > > expecting to happen, that's as far as I can help you.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-01-31 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng 
Redirecting back to the list.


On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 04:34:56PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2021 um 04:09 Uhr
> > Von: "Gregory Nowak via Dng" 
> > An: "Radisson via Dng" 
> > Betreff: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:15:53PM +0100, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > > i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.
> > >
> > > I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.
> >
> > I can tell you that using the text based installer for Beowulf, I was
> > able to do manual partitioning without problems.
> >
> > >
> > > The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.
> >
> > If you're able to boot into the installed system, then /etc/fstab was
> > indeed created. At least some parts of the system will end up being
> > installed into /.
> >
> 
> You got me wrong,  i started the
> installer. i successfully created the whole partitioning but the whole setup
> was ignored the installer used / and installed everything there.

OK, I'll repeat back what you said as far as I understand it. You said you
used the installer to create a custom partitioning scheme, but the
installer ignored your partitioning scheme, and installed the entire
system into /, instead of mounting various partitions in the
appropriate mount points under /. Correct? If yes, then a /etc/fstab
must still have been created, else the system wouldn't boot; it just
wasn't the /etc/fstab you wanted. What I said is still correct. I was
able to use the devuan 3.0 text installer to create a custom
partitioning scheme inside the installer, and have various directories
placed in the partitions I wanted.

You still haven't explained exactly what you did, or which docs you
followed, so confirming that what you want to do is possible at least
in the text installer for devuan 3.0 is the best I can do to help you
at this point. When you create a partition in the installer, you need
to be sure to specify how the partition is to be used (E.G. swap,
ext4), and where it is to be mounted in the target directory tree.

Greg


> I guess i missed a point but i followed the docs so far.
> 
> > >
> > > Is this expected or did i miss an option somewhere ??
> > >
> >
> > Without knowing exactly what you did, what exactly happened, and what you 
> > were
> > expecting to happen, that's as far as I can help you.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-01-30 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng 
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:15:53PM +0100, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.
> 
> I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.

I can tell you that using the text based installer for Beowulf, I was
able to do manual partitioning without problems.

> 
> The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.

If you're able to boot into the installed system, then /etc/fstab was
indeed created. At least some parts of the system will end up being
installed into /.

> 
> Is this expected or did i miss an option somewhere ??
> 

Without knowing exactly what you did, what exactly happened, and what you were
expecting to happen, that's as far as I can help you.

Greg


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[DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-01-30 Thread Radisson via Dng 

Hello list,

i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.

I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.

The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.

Is this expected or did i miss an option somewhere ??

CU


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