On 12/02/16 02:58, KatolaZ wrote:
My solution: just forget wicd and use wpa_supplicant directly. It
works ALWAYS, without delays, without stupid automagicalities, without
problems.
+1
a little manual intervention,
and a couple of keybindings to make that easier
_
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 03:41:38PM +, hellekin wrote:
> On 02/10/2016 07:20 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:
> >>>
> Sorry I missed that, does it handle wifi roaming?
> >
> > It means you can transport your laptop to whichever place there is a
> > wifi ap (which you have entered once in your con
On 02/10/2016 07:20 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:
>>>
Sorry I missed that, does it handle wifi roaming?
>
> It means you can transport your laptop to whichever place there is a
> wifi ap (which you have entered once in your config) and your laptop
> will automatically connect to the network, with
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 23:26:52 +
KatolaZ wrote:
> I have to admit how much I envy you all guys. I have tried dozens of
> those automagical tools for wifi connection management, but in the end
> I always ended up using wpa_supplicant (with hand-written custom
> config files) + dhclient. There i
Le 10/02/2016 08:10, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:11:05 +0300
Mitt Green wrote:
Didier Kryn wrote:
Sorry I missed that, does it handle wifi roaming?
It doesn't do more than wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd.
And has its spawn in a notification tray.
Exactly what is wifi roaming,
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:11:05 +0300
Mitt Green wrote:
> Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> >Sorry I missed that, does it handle wifi roaming?
>
> It doesn't do more than wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd.
> And has its spawn in a notification tray.
Exactly what is wifi roaming, anyway?
SteveT
Steve Litt
Fe
On 10/02/16 10:26, KatolaZ wrote:
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:22:15PM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote:
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:24:38 -0500
Steve Litt wrote:
For the reasons I enumerated above. I don't use NetworkManager because
it's too much baggage, but I have to admit, its human-engineering is
sp
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:20:32AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:15:28AM +0100, shraptor wrote:
> > >Vdev is still in its final stages of development, as far as I know.
> > >Running on developpment asd some test systems, but still being
> > >thorougly tested on corner case
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:22:15PM +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:24:38 -0500
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > For the reasons I enumerated above. I don't use NetworkManager because
> > it's too much baggage, but I have to admit, its human-engineering is
> > spectacular **on a win
Steve Litt writes:
> Didier Kryn wrote:
[...]
>> I always wondered why there existed network-manager at all
>
> For the reasons I enumerated above. I don't use NetworkManager because
> it's too much baggage, but I have to admit, its human-engineering is
> spectacular **on a window manager with
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:24:38 -0500, Steve wrote in message
<20160209112438.3f4c8...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:16:08 +0100
> Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> > I always wondered why there existed network-manager at all
>
> For the reasons I enumerated above. I don't use NetworkManager be
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 09:20:32 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:15:28AM +0100, shraptor wrote:
> >
> > >>I noticed too that no vdev were installed, expected?
> > >
> > >Vdev is still in its final stages of development, as far as I know.
> > >Running on developpment asd some te
Le 09/02/2016 21:14, Mitt Green a écrit :
Steve Litt wrote:
Are you running wpa_supplicant as a daemon? Excluding passwords,
what does your wpa_supplicant.conf look like?
[...]
Are you running dhcpcd as a daemon? What is the command line?
[...]
I mentioned here once, that I use a simple
Le 09/02/2016 20:49, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:01:44 +0300
Mitt Green wrote:
Didier Kryn wrote:
In the mean time, wpagui is working fine [...]
wpagui uses Qt, there's no need to pull tons of
packages for one programme, as long as dhcpcd-ui
exists for those who prefer gr
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:24:38 -0500
Steve Litt wrote:
> For the reasons I enumerated above. I don't use NetworkManager because
> it's too much baggage, but I have to admit, its human-engineering is
> spectacular **on a window manager with a panel**.
If you just need it for e.g. an occasional mobi
Steve Litt wrote:
>Are you running wpa_supplicant as a daemon? Excluding passwords,
>what does your wpa_supplicant.conf look like?
[...]
>Are you running dhcpcd as a daemon? What is the command line?
[...]
I mentioned here once, that I use a simple script for connecting
to our local wireless
Steve Litt [2016-02-09 17:24]:
> I use wpa_gui every time I take one of my laptops on the road, and I
> get it to work, but I wouldn't call its functionality "working fine."
> First of all, its human interface is ridiculous. Instead of conversing
> with the human at human level and translating for
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:01:44 +0300
Mitt Green wrote:
> Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> >In the mean time, wpagui is working fine [...]
>
> wpagui uses Qt, there's no need to pull tons of
> packages for one programme, as long as dhcpcd-ui
> exists for those who prefer graphical interfaces.
> As I sta
On 2016-02-09 15:20, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:15:28AM +0100, shraptor wrote:
>>I noticed too that no vdev were installed, expected?
>
>Vdev is still in its final stages of development, as far as I know.
>Running on developpment asd some test systems, but still being
>thoro
Didier Kryn wrote:
>Sorry I missed that, does it handle wifi roaming?
It doesn't do more than wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd.
And has its spawn in a notification tray.
> ...and having Qt installed has never been an issue.
I don't see the use of having both as my aim
is to have a minimalistic set
Le 09/02/2016 17:10, Steve Litt a écrit :
And we-do-it-all-for-you software makes rolling your own much more
difficult, because it epoxys layer after layer of its impenetrable
abstractions over what you know as Linux, to the point that stuff that
would have been simple in 1998 Red Hat 5.2 becomes
Le 09/02/2016 18:17, Didier Kryn a écrit :
Le 09/02/2016 17:24, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:16:08 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote:
> > >> Easynetaid/netbarx is an option, preferably when it is
available >> from the repo. In the mean time, wpagui is working fine,
as from >> many years
Le 09/02/2016 17:24, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:16:08 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > > >> Easynetaid/netbarx is an option, preferably when it is
available >> from the repo. In the mean time, wpagui is working fine, as
from >> many years - > > I use wpa_gui every time I take one of
That's about right, mate is nearly free of systemd barring the libsystemd0
dendency in some cases if you really like that sort of setup it could be an
option.
Cheers,
chillfan
On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 4:10 PM, Steve Litt
wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:04:44 +1100
> Sylvain BERTRAND wro
Le 09/02/2016 13:01, Mitt Green a écrit :
wpagui uses Qt, there's no need to pull tons of
packages for one programme, as long as dhcpcd-ui
exists for those who prefer graphical interfaces.
As I stated previously, in my case wpa_supplicant
and dhcpcd work fine together.
Sorry I missed that, d
Steve Litt writes:
[...]
>>From 2000 through 2013 I consistently used "We do it all for you"
> distros: Mandrake, Mandriva, and then Ubuntu (later Xubuntu and
> Lubuntu). Most of the time, when I plugged in a thumb drive, BANG, its
> mounted-self appeared on the desktop (or whatever).
That's on
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:16:08 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Easynetaid/netbarx is an option, preferably when it is available
> from the repo. In the mean time, wpagui is working fine, as from many
> years -
I use wpa_gui every time I take one of my laptops on the road, and I
get it to work,
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:04:44 +1100
Sylvain BERTRAND wrote:
> Then from a desktop perspective, what should I expect to work? I'm
> targetting usage level similar to gnome regarding network
> configuration, mounting of removal medias and digital camera, etc
> etc...
Hi Sylvain,
It's true. Gnome w
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 09:15:28AM +0100, shraptor wrote:
>
> >>I noticed too that no vdev were installed, expected?
> >
> >Vdev is still in its final stages of development, as far as I know.
> >Running on developpment asd some test systems, but still being
> >thorougly tested on corner cases befo
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 09:15:28 +0100
shraptor wrote:
> It is my belief that vdev should go in some testing or development
> repo.
If there are free capacities on the build infrastructure, it would make
testing much more appealing to have an unofficial (pre)alpha or "lab"
repository for Jessie. I j
Didier Kryn wrote:
>In the mean time, wpagui is working fine [...]
wpagui uses Qt, there's no need to pull tons of
packages for one programme, as long as dhcpcd-ui
exists for those who prefer graphical interfaces.
As I stated previously, in my case wpa_supplicant
and dhcpcd work fine together.
Gnome is still very much tied to systemd, I'd say go with xfce4 with wicd and
iceweasel. Also you want gvfs and thunar-volman for automounting.I use jmtpfs
for mounting mtp devices, you might want to something though and there might be
other packages useful for working with cameras too.
The ri
Le 09/02/2016 01:04, Sylvain BERTRAND a écrit :
Hi,
From a debian jessie 8.3 with gnome I did an upgrade to devuan, but I got many
issues:
- I had to remove manually systemd once rebooted
- An apt autoremove actually did remove all gnome.
Then from a desktop perspective, what should I e
I noticed too that no vdev were installed, expected?
Vdev is still in its final stages of development, as far as I know.
Running on developpment asd some test systems, but still being
thorougly tested on corner cases before being introduced into Devuan.
-- hendrik
It is my belief that vdev
On 02/09/2016 06:21 AM, Go Linux wrote:
easynetaid was renamed this afternoon as per edbarx's post to #devuan:
As suggested by Jaromil netman was renamed to simple-netaid. Changes
pushed.
golinux
I was waiting for some possible last-minute changes. So now, i will
replace netman-gtk by s
On 09/02/16 16:20, Go Linux wrote:
On Mon, 2/8/16, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Monday, February 8, 2016, 10:47 PM
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 11:04:44AM +1100, Sylvain BERTRAND wrote:
Hi,
F
On Mon, 2/8/16, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Monday, February 8, 2016, 10:47 PM
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 11:04:44AM +1100, Sylvain BERTRAND wrote:
> Hi,
>
> From a debian jessie 8.3 with
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 11:04:44AM +1100, Sylvain BERTRAND wrote:
> Hi,
>
> From a debian jessie 8.3 with gnome I did an upgrade to devuan, but I got
> many issues:
> - I had to remove manually systemd once rebooted
> - An apt autoremove actually did remove all gnome.
>
> Then from a desktop
Hi,
From a debian jessie 8.3 with gnome I did an upgrade to devuan, but I got many
issues:
- I had to remove manually systemd once rebooted
- An apt autoremove actually did remove all gnome.
Then from a desktop perspective, what should I expect to work? I'm targetting
usage level similar to
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