Re: [DNG] Pi hole

On Sat, 2016-05-21 at 16:43 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > Yay curl|bash. I'd say recommending such a command as their > installation > method means their view on security is so bad that no one should > touch them > with a $LENGTH pole. At least as safe as a package, both are taking executable

[DNG] Pulseaudio ...

Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it shouldn't be needed (in lubuntu at least in former times) it was not installed ... (?) But it's a long time i was away from Debian ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Evince

Hi, Sorry for hooking back an earlier part of this thread, but I turned back to xpdf a while back as it was the only pdf viewer that I found produces consistently good and correct rendering results. It can print too. The biggest problem is it is way too ugly. If we could wrap a nicer interface

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016 23:16:48 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit : > >> I have no use for a PDF > >> viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^) > >> ___ > > > >

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:29:30PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > Rainer Weikusat writes: > > > > [...] > > > > > Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation > > > > [*] It doesn't support lexical

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit : > >I have no use for a PDF > >viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^) > >___ > > Indeed it does! I didn't even thought to try that. Looks

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

On Tue, 24 May 2016 08:26:31 +0200, Emninger wrote: > Am Tue, 24 May 2016 05:41:47 + > schrieb Irrwahn : > >> No need to, since there is no such dependency at all: [...] > I see. But why, when i install lightdm, then it always installs > gnome-accessibility-themes as well?

Re: [DNG] Evince

Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : Rainer Weikusat writes: [...] Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation [*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. No idea what that means. I like emacs for text editing and don't use it

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

Am Tue, 24 May 2016 05:41:47 + schrieb Irrwahn : > No need to, since there is no such dependency at all: > > /lightdm_1.10.3-3_amd64.deb > --\ Depends (11) > --- adduser > --- dbus > --- debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0 > --- libc6 (>= 2.14) > ---

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

On Tue, 24 May 2016 02:16:32 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:39:00 +0200 > Irrwahn wrote: > >> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:05:30 +0200, Emninger wrote: [...] >>> How can i add JWM to the recognized sessions?f 'update-alternatives >>> --config x-session-manager'

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

On Tue, 24 May 2016 09:50:39 +0200, Emninger wrote: > Am Tue, 24 May 2016 07:27:11 + > schrieb Irrwahn : [...] >> >> $ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01norecommends >> APT::Install-Recommends "0"; >> APT::Install-Suggests "0"; >> [...] > Just a simple question: the

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Tue, 24 May 2016 08:44:52 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: >> On Mon, 23 May 2016 21:16:51 +0200, Jaromil wrote: [Proposal of a Wiki page providing recommendations for Devuan endorsed default software ...] > A good start could be to draft this for the default >

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

Am Tue, 24 May 2016 05:41:47 + schrieb Irrwahn : > If you really want to take that route: Good luck with that. I understand :) And, no, i will not!!! I don't want to stress the people willed to help ;) ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016 21:16:51 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > [...] > > on another note I wonder if all this knowledge put forward here, > > for example on this thread on what is good for the PDF viewer > > functionality, can be gathered into a sort of wiki

Re: [DNG] Devuan Minimal Live Images -- Update

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:12:00AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded Devuan 1.0 Jessie Minimal Beta Live and tried startx but > nothing happened. > eheheh! "minimal" means "contains only the essential stuff in the smallest possible amount of space". Hence you will find a

Re: [DNG] Devuan Minimal Live Images -- Update

Hi, I downloaded Devuan 1.0 Jessie Minimal Beta Live and tried startx but nothing happened. Edward On 23/05/2016, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 08:05:18PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: >> >> >> El 23/05/16 a las 18:57, KatolaZ escribió: >> >Hi Aitor, >> > >> >thanks

Re: [DNG] what Emacs really is, jokes aside.

Le 24/05/2016 03:36, Hendrik Boom a écrit : On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:16:48PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit : I have no use for a PDF viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^) ___ Indeed

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

Am Tue, 24 May 2016 07:27:11 + schrieb Irrwahn : Thanks!!! > Protip: If you'd like to avoid such unwanted installs, > there is an easy way to tweak apt, namely by creating > this file: > > $ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01norecommends > APT::Install-Recommends "0"; >

[DNG] Zathura (was Evince)

Hi Robert, El 24/05/16 a las 02:42, Robert Storey escribió: I'd love to install Atril, but after an "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" it's no longer in the repositories for AntiX. I'm not sure why that is. There is a lightweight PDF viewer for Devuan

Re: [DNG] Evince

.. On 2016-05-24 12:50, Jaromil wrote: > ... > I agree with Robert the multi-lang support is very important and very > well implemented in Emacs. Since many years all my work depends from > Emacs. I've had the chance to offer a dinner to RMS for my gratitude > for Emacs and I'll do that with

Re: [DNG] Emacs as PID1

> On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: >> ... >> Maybe if someone could add some system init code and process >> supervision functionality to it ... For process supervision, try 'M-x proced', a "mode for displaying system processes and sending signals to them". -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Tue, 24 May 2016, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : > >Rainer Weikusat writes: > > > >[...] > > > >>Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation > >[*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. > > > > No idea what

Re: [DNG] Emacs as PID1

On Tue, 24 May 2016, Boruch Baum wrote: > > On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > >> ... > >> Maybe if someone could add some system init code and process > >> supervision functionality to it ... > > For process supervision, try 'M-x proced', a "mode for displaying > system processes and sending

Re: [DNG] Emacs as PID1

On Tue, 24 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > On Tue, 24 May 2016 06:38:34 -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > >> On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > >>> ... > >>> Maybe if someone could add some system init code and process > >>> supervision functionality to it ... > > > > For process supervision, try 'M-x

[DNG] Emacs as PID1, was Re: Evince

On Tue, 24 May 2016 08:34:37 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > >> "Emacs is a great operating system, it lacks a good editor, though." [...] >> Maybe if someone could add some system init code and process >> supervision functionality to it, that would shed a whole new

Re: [DNG] what Emacs really is, jokes aside.

> Emacs is an excellent user interface, development environment, and > desktop for ancient, text-only terminals. That's what it was for back > in the day. That's what it still is. > > But people seem to be able to afford better terminals For me, Emacs is a lot more than a development

Re: [DNG] Emacs as PID1

On Tue, 24 May 2016 06:38:34 -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: >> On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: >>> ... >>> Maybe if someone could add some system init code and process >>> supervision functionality to it ... > > For process supervision, try 'M-x proced', a "mode for displaying > system processes

Re: [DNG] Zathura (was Evince)

El 24/05/16 a las 13:10, aitor_czr escribió: Hi Robert, El 24/05/16 a las 02:42, Robert Storey escribió: > I'd love to install Atril, but after an "apt-get update" and "apt-get > dist-upgrade" it's no longer in the repositories for AntiX. I'm not sure > why that is.

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:25:09 +0200, Emninger wrote: > Am Tue, 24 May 2016 07:27:11 + > Irrwahn wrote:: > >> I tried that a few days ago, and got some ... umm ... >> "interesting" results. I just tried that again on a clean >> VM install (dropped a one-liner for

Re: [DNG] what Emacs really is, jokes aside.

On Tue, 24 May 2016 19:55:07 +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > Just for fun... > > Not everyone knows this, but Emacs can be your psychiatrist. If you haven't > tried it yet, take a look at "doctor" Of course, never miss out on aunty ELIZA! In case of emergency dial M-x doctor. Will soon be in

Re: [DNG] Evince

Didier Kryn writes: > Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : >> Rainer Weikusat writes: >> >> [...] >> >>> Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation >> [*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. >> > > No idea what that

Re: [DNG] what Emacs really is, jokes aside.

Just for fun... Not everyone knows this, but Emacs can be your psychiatrist. If you haven't tried it yet, take a look at "doctor" https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsDoctor ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] OpenRC

On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:06:33 +0200, Emninger wrote: > Is there a link to an instruction how to use (and setup) openrc > together with sysvinit? DISCLAIMER: I never tried that, so please take my suggestions with a buckload of salt. (Corrections welcome!) Having that out of the way: There is

[DNG] OpenRC

Is there a link to an instruction how to use (and setup) openrc together with sysvinit? I'd like to use openrc as a tool to administrate daemons and services since i find it a lot more "logical" (easy?). One question for example is, if can be used the (needed) openrc scripts from other distros

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

Am Tue, 24 May 2016 07:27:11 + Irrwahn wrote:: > I tried that a few days ago, and got some ... umm ... > "interesting" results. I just tried that again on a clean > VM install (dropped a one-liner for ~/.xsessionrc) and at > first it did indeed look better. However,

[DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

To the Devs in charge, and to whom it may concern. I just filed an issue against the Devuan slim package, requesting its removal from future Devuan releases. Full quote below signature. Regards Urban - Request for Removal of slim

Re: [DNG] Evince

Jaromil writes: [...] > maybe its all relative and we are > all fanatics in the eyes of Vim users :^))) Confused people having confused opinions ... [rw@doppelsaurus]~#dpkg -l | grep 'ii *[^ ]*vim\? ' ii nvi 1.81.6-8.2

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:08:51 +0200, Irrwahn Grausewitz wrote: > I just filed an issue against the Devuan slim package, > requesting its removal from future Devuan releases. Just to prevent possible misunderstandings, some clarification re my stance on that: I would never object to Devuan

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

Am Tue, 24 May 2016 14:12:07 + schrieb Irrwahn : > Checked with your above script. Again, works for me: C-M-BS > kills X server dead instantly. So does for me now; there was a typo in ~/.xsession.rc :-( I changed the cmd_login line in slim to be sure it loads correctly

Re: [DNG] voice notifying - how to turn off

W dniu 23.05.2016 o 14:39, Sadegh Sadegh pisze: > Second: when I installed smplayer from synaptic, it has no film,but only > voice. > How is this posibel? Try to install libavcodec from synaptic. Or install another player i.e. VLC. Redards Paweł signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [DNG] Evince

El 24/05/16 a las 16:12, Rainer Weikusat escribió: It means that any binding of some symbol is globally visible during the dynamic lifetime of the scope which established it instead of being restricted to code which is lexically contained in this scope. Contrived

Re: [DNG] How to change default session

On Tue, 24 May 2016 17:28:44 +0200, Emninger wrote: [...] > I changed the cmd_login line in slim to be sure it loads correctly all > i want. If i execute the standard login_cmd without cycling thru the > sessions options, no desktop is started at (but i want charge you to > try something with

[DNG] editor in scheme

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:37:40AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > Personally and daydreaming, on the longlong term :^) I'd rather > appreciate an effort that ditches elisp alltogether, learning from the > goods and bads of Emacs, and builds something on a more modern LISP > interpreter like Guile2 or

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 02:47:04PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Didier Kryn writes: > > Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : > >> Rainer Weikusat writes: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>> Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 04:53:15PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote: > On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:08:51 +0200, Irrwahn Grausewitz wrote: > > I just filed an issue against the Devuan slim package, > > requesting its removal from future Devuan releases. > > Just to prevent possible misunderstandings, some >

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

Hi fsmithred, El 23/05/16 a las 18:01, aitor_czr escribió: El 23/05/16 a las 14:00, fsmithred escribió: I installed using the devuan installer at the boot menu. The first time, I chose a root password. When I booted into the new installation, I could log in as user,

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

Irrwahn wrote: > To the Devs in charge, and to whom it may concern. > > I just filed an issue against the Devuan slim package, > requesting its removal from future Devuan releases. Hi Urban, Thanks for writing this up and posting it. I have no stake, not using slim myself, however I did want

[DNG] Configure Xterm

I would like to have in the terminal (i use xterm), directories shown not only with a different colour (i managed that) but also with final slash (i liked that in some bsd and in slackware), e.g.: ~/.bogofilter/ ~/.claws-mail/ etc. Someone knows by chance how to set that in .Xresources? Thanks

Re: [DNG] elisp (was: Evince)\

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:40:37PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > ... and what the Lisp 1.5 FUNCTION was about was to enable solving the > so-called 'upward funarg problem': Assuming a function is returned > (passed upward) when evaluating an expression and later activated in a > different

Re: [DNG] Configure Xterm

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 11:04:59PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > I would like to have in the terminal (i use xterm), directories shown > not only with a different colour (i managed that) but also with final > slash (i liked that in some bsd and in slackware), e.g.: > > ~/.bogofilter/ >

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:36:40 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > Irrwahn wrote: [...] >> 4. The Devuan package appears orphaned, the code has not been touched >>for about a year. Considering its upstream is no longer maintained >>either, the package might impose a security risk not tenable for a

[DNG] elisp (was: Evince)

Hendrik Boom writes: > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 02:47:04PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> Didier Kryn writes: >> > Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : >> >> Rainer Weikusat writes: >> >>> Emacs is a somewhat