Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

On 2017-09-22 16:00, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:52:56 -0400 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > groups did not help; alas Thanks, butt adding my user to the plugdev Read: Thanks, but adding my user to the plugdev group did not help;

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:09:21 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Did you log out and back in after making the change? I did, no change. Cheers, Ron. -- Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:51:53 -0500 Hector Gonzalez wrote: > You can also do this, assuming your original user is "user": > XAUTHORITY=~user/.Xauthority > export XAUTHORITY > DISPLAY=:0.0 > export DISPLAY > and use x with that. You don't add permissions, and there is no need to

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 06:29:52 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > > My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without trouble > > under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have to launch a > > Pcmanfm as root to access them. Lucky I learned this morning how

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:52:56 -0400 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote: > > groups did not help; alas > > Thanks, butt adding my user to the plugdev Read: Thanks, but adding my user to the plugdev group did not help; alas Cheers, Ron. --

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

Le 22/09/2017 à 00:16, Joel Roth a écrit : My point is that if there is no pulseaudio server, skypeforlinux sends sound to the ALSA device, so that one needs to install neither pulseaudio nor apulse to use skype on devuan jessie (at least for the version of skype I downloaded.) OK. Thanks,

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 08:09:50 +0200 "J. Fahrner" wrote: > > My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without > > trouble under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have to > > launch a Pcmanfm as root to access them. > I had similar issues some

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:44:47 -0700, Rick wrote in message <20170921234447.gp11...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > ..my prefecence was the -X option: ssh -X root@localhost > > until Debian killed it with some new policy. > > Was it Debian that did that? I was

Re: [DNG] librezilla: [WAS: Has anyone tried waterfox?]

Le 21/09/2017 à 18:12, Edward Bartolo a écrit : Excuse me for interrupting this conversation, but, what is the point of making sure a browser is secure knowing there is a complete HIDDEN OS running all the time? Tackling all the issues in parallel is simply more efficient than one after

Re: [DNG] librezilla: [WAS: Has anyone tried waterfox?]

Quote: "if you build your own boards" You mean design my own computer motherboards?! Excuse me, but that is definitely the task of experts, not computer end users. Yes, I have knowledge about transistors, logic gates and some circuits employing them, but that is NOT enough. Furthermore, even if I

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

Le 21/09/2017 à 17:12, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : Under Debian, I could su to root in a console, and launch gparted from the CLI. This could never work. su does not transmit the X connection (don't know the details). You got to use gksu or gksudo, or some equivalent command. With

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:37:14 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > > Under Debian, I could su to root in a console, and launch gparted from the > > CLI. > This could never work. su does not transmit the X connection I have no idea whether it _could_ work. But I know it _did_

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

Le 22/09/2017 à 01:32, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : The '-Y' option enables X11 forwarding. (This of course requires sshd.) You can probably justify 'xhost +' if this is one of those I'm-the-only-user machines. Thank Ghu, remote network access to the X server is no longer enabled by default on

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

Le 22/09/2017 à 11:41, Klaus Ethgen a écrit : Not true. That is the job of pam_xauth.so. Just use it as session plugin in pam. Interesting. Learning everyday, thanks :-) However, for at least a decade, the launcher of Synaptic, in Debian, has been invoking gksu. Certainly some other

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am Fr den 22. Sep 2017 um 10:37 schrieb Didier Kryn: > Le 21/09/2017 à 17:12, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : > > Under Debian, I could su to root in a console, and launch gparted from the > > CLI. > > This could never work. su does not

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 11:37:14AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 21/09/2017 à 17:12, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : > >Under Debian, I could su to root in a console, and launch gparted from the > >CLI. > > This could never work. su does not transmit the X connection (don't know > the

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:19:51 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > However, for at least a decade, the launcher of Synaptic, in > Debian, has been invoking gksu. Certainly some other sysadmin commands > were using it also, but synaptic is the one I mostly use. When you launch it from

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 06:27:59AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 09:41:08PM +0100, Dave Turner wrote: > > [cut] > > > The bottle of wine isn't quite finished yet, but I am not trying to force > > anyone to stop using 'su'. > > > > It IS a really bad idea though, rummage the

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 04:44:47PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > > This terminology actually confused me for years. I thought "Trusted" > connections were safer. But actually it's an option you're supposed to > use in situations where the connection IS trustworthy and you want to > run stuff

Re: [DNG] librezilla: [WAS: Has anyone tried waterfox?]

On Thu, 2017-09-21 at 18:12 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Excuse me for interrupting this conversation, but, what is the point > of making sure a browser is secure knowing there is a complete HIDDEN > OS running all the time? I have no idea what it does and what > functions it offers to the

Re: [DNG] librezilla: [WAS: Has anyone tried waterfox?]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 08:24:49 +0200, Edward wrote in message

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:03:07 +0200, Arnt wrote in message <20170922130307.25f57...@nb6.lan>: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:44:47 -0700, Rick wrote in message > <20170921234447.gp11...@linuxmafia.com>: > > > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > > > ..my prefecence was the -X option: ssh -X

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

On 22-09-17 12:33, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 08:09:50 +0200 "J. Fahrner" wrote: My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without trouble under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have to launch a Pcmanfm as root to access

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:52:50 +0200 info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > >>> My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without > >>> trouble under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have to > >>> launch a Pcmanfm as root to access them.

[DNG] ..weird net outage, and aptitude showed me 611 untrusted packages, was: New behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:30:52 +0200, Arnt wrote in message <20170922133052.30fab...@nb6.lan>: > ..weird net "outage", I had dns, icmp and _nothing_ else, > outside my isp's net. ..another thing that caught my attention, is aptitude showed me "611 new untrusted packages" and that "-t

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:10:37 +0200, Didier wrote in message <9a258483-ff65-96a3-1ded-5bb121586...@in2p3.fr>: > Le 22/09/2017 à 01:32, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > >> The '-Y' option enables X11 forwarding. (This of course requires > >> sshd.) > >> > >> You can probably justify 'xhost +' if this is

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

On 09/22/2017 05:10 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 22/09/2017 à 01:32, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : You can probably justify 'xhost +' if this is one of those I'm-the-only-user machines. Thank Ghu, remote network access to the X server is no longer enabled by default on Linux hosts. (The right way to

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

Quoting Hector Gonzalez (ca...@genac.org): > You can also do this, assuming your original user is "user": > XAUTHORITY=~user/.Xauthority > export XAUTHORITY > DISPLAY=:0.0 > export DISPLAY > and use x with that. Some of us like to do 'ssh -Y root@localhost' because we got tired of messing

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 08:54:30 -0400, Renaud wrote in message <20170922085430.0b228...@ron.cerrocora.org>: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:31:44 +0200 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > I don't know how one can prevent you from running ssh -X > > > root@localhost . Permission to do so

[DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

Under Devuan ASCII I have no problem running gparted from a terminal after becoming root with su. Obviously, the xorg must be running before attempting to run gparted. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org