Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 09:30:48AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > >     Palemoon is also stuck with gcc-4.9. The documentation says that and > discourages trying to build it with versions newer than GCC-5.3 AFAIR. > I've built it on Jessie (without PA) and copied the binary to ASCII with > no

Re: [DNG] Protect laptop from power supply voltage transients

2018-03-30 Thread Richard Andrews
Using capacitors as spike as a spike protector is lame at best. The gold standard for me is a MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor). It short circuits anything over it's rated voltage and does so so quickly, that semiconductors are protected from spikes from lightning, static, etc. On Fri, Mar 30, 2018

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 30/03/2018 à 11:25, Hendrik Boom a écrit : On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 09:30:48AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:     Palemoon is also stuck with gcc-4.9. The documentation says that and discourages trying to build it with versions newer than GCC-5.3 AFAIR. I've built it on Jessie (without PA) and

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Hendrik, On 30/03/18 11:25, Hendrik Boom wrote: What happens with later versions of gcc? fails to build, or fails to function when built? There are deb packages for debian 9: https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home:stevenpusser=palemoon So, palemoon should work on ascii.

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 30/03/2018 à 11:40, aitor_czr a écrit : Hi Hendrik, On 30/03/18 11:25, Hendrik Boom wrote: What happens with later versions of gcc? fails to build, or fails to function when built? There are deb packages for debian 9:

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2018 schrieb Tomasz Torcz ️: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 02:42:53AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 05:43:15PM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > >

Re: [DNG] Protect laptop from power supply voltage transients

2018-03-30 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Fri, 30 Mar 2018 09:32:13 +0200 Edward Bartolo ha scritto: > On 29/03/2018, Simon Hobson wrote: > > Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > >> What you wrote reminded me of a dangerous filter that consists of two > >> high voltage

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Chillfan
I believe so as well, but if I remember the build dependencies given in Steve Pussers sources require and fetch (apt-get build-dep) gcc-4.9 so it may be right that 4.9 is needed, or it should be built on Jessie. That might be why I was having issues with stability. ​Thanks, chillfan ‐‐‐

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 29/03/2018 à 17:42, Jaromil a écrit : palemoon is stuck at "version 27" series of Firefox and in any case its in the 2x series I doubt it can be brought up to 50 since the codebase is rather different. said that, I'm happy with palemoon, using always the latest stable release tagged on the

Re: [DNG] Getting 「」 quotes and others so show up legibly.

2018-03-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:40:34PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:57:44PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Nice, I like these: 「」「」「」「」「」「」 :) Now I wonder how to type these on a > > keyboard with German keyboard layout. Hmmm, Alt-Gr-S is ſ but that is not > > the

Re: [DNG] Protect laptop from power supply voltage transients

2018-03-30 Thread aitor_czr
Hi, On 30/03/18 11:00, Alessandro Selli wrote: Il giorno Fri, 30 Mar 2018 09:32:13 +0200 Edward Bartolo ha scritto: On 29/03/2018, Simon Hobson wrote: Edward Bartolo wrote: What you wrote reminded me of a dangerous filter

[DNG] Protect laptop from power supply voltage transients

2018-03-30 Thread Edward Bartolo
On 29/03/2018, Simon Hobson wrote: > Edward Bartolo wrote: > >> What you wrote reminded me of a dangerous filter that consists of two >> high voltage series-connected capacitors connected in parallel with >> the mains with their middle point earthed.

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:42:37 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > hi Chillfan, > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, Chillfan wrote: > > > I agree that a fork is needed, but I think this would be a whole > > lot of work. > > yes. forks are a LOT of work. Even Devuan, which I'd say is a > relatively

Re: [DNG] Unbootable system due to cryptsetup depending to two libs in /usr

2018-03-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 03:22:21PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > recently, debian patched the use of two libraries into cryptsetup, > libargon and libpopt. Both are living under /usr. > > That leads to unbootable system when /usr is on separate partition and > you using disk encryption (or even

[DNG] Unbootable system due to cryptsetup depending to two libs in /usr

2018-03-30 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, recently, debian patched the use of two libraries into cryptsetup, libargon and libpopt. Both are living under /usr. That leads to unbootable system when /usr is on separate partition and you using disk encryption (or even having /usr on a

Re: [DNG] Unbootable system due to cryptsetup depending to two libs in /usr

2018-03-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 04:49:15PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Thus, as you use pieces unmodified from Debian, please report the bug there. > A fix there would help far more users than just the Devuan's subtree of > Debian derivatives. I'm not hit by this bug, but there are others. How

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread aitor_czr
Hi, On 2018 30 Mar 09:29 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on earth: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86 After reading the discussion, makes me want to remove Pale Moon from gnuinos. What about Abrowser, Trisquel's version of

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread chillfan
That's interesting. Perhaps it was best I didn't get palemoon building correctly, I was under the impression they had changed to a more friendly approach with their official branding. So that would make Palemoon builds even more difficult there. ​Thanks, chillfan ‐‐‐ Original Message

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2018 30 Mar 09:29 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on earth: > > https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86 Thanks, Steve. I'm off to remove it from my laptop. I guess they just set themselves up as a "routing problem". Good

Re: [DNG] Unbootable system due to cryptsetup depending to two libs in /usr

2018-03-30 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 at 15:22:21 +0100 Klaus Ethgen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hi, > > recently, debian patched the use of two libraries into cryptsetup, > libargon and libpopt. Both are living under /usr. > > That leads to unbootable

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread aitor_czr
On 30/03/18 22:36, Rick Moen wrote: And, for gosh sakes, spend a few minutes to learn some real trademark law, already. Please. People fork the mozilla browser due to its legal restrictions (i think); so, referring to palemoon, where is the sense of forking it applying similar

Re: [DNG] Unbootable system due to cryptsetup depending to two libs in /usr

2018-03-30 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 11:22:24AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > How appropriate is it for me to report a bug directly to Debian > when I have no Debian system to test it on? If you have no doubt that the bug you're seeing in devuan also exists in debian, then report it within devuan to debian's

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:28:00AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:42:37 +0200 > Jaromil wrote: > > > hi Chillfan, > > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, Chillfan wrote: > > > > > I agree that a fork is needed, but I think this would be a whole > > > lot of work. >

[DNG] Pale Moon

2018-03-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 09:46:59PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 30 March 2018 at 21:39:14, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:28:00AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on earth: > > > > > >

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on earth: > https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86 > > By the way, a little research on USPTO shows they have no registered > trademark on "Palemoon". For somebody so

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 30 March 2018 at 21:39:14, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:28:00AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on earth: > > > > https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86 > > Is there another name that palemoon

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > I gotta show these guys *everything*... It's worse than that: If you want us to understand that you did a trademark search not just at USPTO but also at EUIPO, Canadian Intellectual Property Office, India Trade Marks Registry, WIPO, CIPC, China

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 07:42:49PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > > Certainly your privilege -- but, to just by your bellyaching, you'd > think it was difficult to just substitute a slightly different name > and logo, which it's not. You have to specify a specific option in order *not* to substitute

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:36:05 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on > > earth: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86 > > > > By the way, a little research