Re: [Dng] Gufw and systemd

On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 21:34 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 02:53:30PM -0500, Gravis wrote: the trick is to satisfy the dependencies without installing anything needing systemd. to do this you just need to use older versions of some packages from wheezy/stable.

Re: [Dng] Community polls on Devuan design

On Sun, 2015-02-08 at 18:03 +, Jaromil wrote: hi, A fellow VUA has ...anonymously setup a logo survey here https://it.surveymonkey.com/s/PJT8T3Q I don't know if I managed to vote: Got this (and I don't speak Italian Grazie per aver partecipato all'indagine. Ora puoi creare la tua

Re: [Dng] pre alpha valentine (secret love declaration)

On Sat, 2015-02-14 at 21:36 +, Jaromil wrote: re all, Here is a pre-alpha sneak preview of Devuan at the current state of affairs. It is my valentine to Franco: despite we probably never met in person, I love him. He is really dedicated to this project and putting hard work in it. I

Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0

On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 11:54 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate

Re: [Dng] V^DNLC starts to be subsumed by systemd

On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 18:11 +0100, Tom Collins wrote: http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/02/1037248 VLC Media Player Gains Support For Logging To Systemd's Journal Honestly, I am starting to suspect that userland will need to be entirely forked to stay away from systemd. It seems

Re: [Dng] plan to install valentine pre-alpha on real hardware.

On Sat, 2015-02-28 at 09:45 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: I read the Debian installer mailing list since I upgraded to Jessie early and had huge difficulties. Yes, there are currently many gotchas. There's apparently a bug that prevents them from offering a choice of inits, which they

[Dng] Valentine alpha: Was: Re: Financial report, 1st trimester 2015

On Sun, 2015-05-03 at 22:55 -0400, JeremyBekka C wrote: I was wondering if there is a set of instructions that would explain how to build the current version of Devuan. I tried getting the original alpha working in vagrant without success. See

[Dng] [Fwd: Re: Newbie questions re installing a devuan image]

Should have been sent to the DNG list. ---BeginMessage--- On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 19:27 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 08:18:56PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 13:49 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: I'm running debian wheezy on a 32-bit machine. Given

[Dng] A systemd-free Valentine image: Was: Re: ... devuan image

On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 13:49 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: I'm running debian wheezy on a 32-bit machine. Given the appearance of Jessie last Saturday, it seemed time to try out devuan. Because I don't know what to do with the qcow2 files of the current builds, I went back to the Valentine ISO.

Re: [Dng] Newbie questions re installing a devuan image

On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 13:49 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: I'm running debian wheezy on a 32-bit machine. Given the appearance of Jessie last Saturday, it seemed time to try out devuan. Because I don't know what to do with the qcow2 files of the current builds, I went back to the Valentine ISO.

Re: [Dng] Which package generates /lib/systemd and /etc/systemd files?

On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 13:15 +0100, David Hare wrote: On 05/05/15 12:48, Noel Torres wrote: Didier Kryn k...@in2p3.fr escribió: Please remember that our objective is not to forbid nor impede usage of systemd. A Devuan user might quite well **CHOOSE** to use systemd (well, not for the

Re: [Dng] A novice attempt to speed up Devuan development

On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 11:05 +0200, Anto wrote: On 06/05/15 05:24, Jaret Cantu wrote: I would really appreciate your feedback and guideline on this. Below are the steps I have done so far. 1. Get eudev-3.0 source from http://dev.gentoo.org/~blueness/eudev/ 2. Get Debian build package

Re: [Dng] A novice attempt to speed up Devuan development

On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 16:53 +0200, Anto wrote: /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage-dm.rules dpkg -S /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage-dm.rules dmsetup: /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage-dm.rules Depends on which version you have installed: apt-cache show dmsetup Version:

Re: [Dng] A novice attempt to speed up Devuan development

On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 16:53 +0200, Anto wrote: On 07/05/15 12:48, Anto wrote: On 07/05/15 11:47, Svante Signell wrote: On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 11:05 +0200, Anto wrote: 3. Change debian/changelog and debian/rules I think you need to add Replaces: in debian/control at selected packages

Re: [Dng] Document on using Qemu for Linux DIY

On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 19:18 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, I just finished a very basic document on using Qemu for Linux DIY, which I tech-edited using Valentines Devuan: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/diy/qemu.htm It's based on three shellscripts, and also contains instructions

Re: [Dng] dev-list

On Thu, 2015-04-09 at 10:20 +0300, Martijn Dekkers wrote: I am neither the first, nor will I be the last, to ask for a -dev list. *** I see another two groups: people who want to work together and build something different that won't end up in an isolated technical committee in their ivory

Re: [Dng] dev-list

On Thu, 2015-04-09 at 12:00 +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote: For what is worth - and at risk of adding fuel to the fire, but I am just voicing my impressions and you guys will do what you want with it: Please direct me to the place where the technical discussions are happening; if they're

Re: [Dng] straw poll, non-free firmware for installers

On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 22:06 +, alexus / dotcommon wrote: On 2015-06-03 13:43, KatolaZ wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 05:24:30AM -0700, James Powell wrote: Should it be default added, no, but offered for choice? Absolutely. My vote: Default: No! Offered for choice: Yes (in some

Re: [DNG] howto wifi roaming [was Re: Systemd Shims]

On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 12:03 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 19/08/2015 01:37, Isaac Dunham a écrit : On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 02:19:20PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 18/08/2015 12:49, Edward Bartolo a écrit : At the moment I am stuck trying to use sudo to run ifup from within my frontend.

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 20:34 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: Today on #debconf: 20:11 paultag devuan can pick a fight once they release 20:11 paultag Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default 20:11 paultag which they still do Guys... _still_ installing

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 23:06 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 20:34 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: Today on #debconf: 20:11 paultag devuan can pick a fight once they release 20:11 paultag Hell, they can pick a fight once they stop installing systemd by default 20:11

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

On Tue, 2015-07-28 at 00:09 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:10:29 +0200 Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 23:17 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: Mounting should be restricted to only the most experienced users, never embedded

Re: [DNG] multichannel audio i/o management w/o pulse/dbus

On Thu, 2015-08-06 at 06:32 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2015 05 Aug 21:23 -0500, Joel Roth wrote: What dmix doesn't do (and pulseaudio does) is provide a separate volume control for each application. Which is an outstanding feature that I do miss on this desktop that I purged PA

[DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 23:17 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: That's a very gracious offer, Steve, and I'm sure it will be greatly appreciated. =) If I might say so, I HATE automount. Click to mount is fine, but automounting peripheral drives like jump drives, CDs and whatnot is an inexcusable

Re: [DNG] popcon submitter counts falling

On Fri, 2015-07-17 at 09:25 +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Has anybody seen this? http://popcon.debian.org/ https://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=coreutilsshow_installed=onwant_legend=onwant_ticks=ondate_fmt=%25Y-%25mbeenhere=1 What about this? systemd-sysv:

Re: [DNG] Is Jude Nelson OK?

On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 10:46 +0100, shraptor wrote: > Did something happen to Jude. > > I have worked with him on vdev for half a year > and he usually replies pretty fast. > > Maybe he is just swamped with work. I got a private mail from him on October 13 discussing packaging of vdevd and

Re: [DNG] Office pack

On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 10:05 +0100, Jaromil wrote: > > On November 9, 2015 9:15:53 PM GMT+01:00, Rainer Weikusat u...@virginmedia.com> wrote: > > > JFTR: I've been using LaTeX to write every 'formal' text I needed > > to > > write for about the last 20 years, ranging from term papers to > >

Re: [DNG] busybox

On Sat, 2015-10-31 at 17:30 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > How do you guys like this:? > http://git.busybox.net/busybox/commit/?id=accd9eeb719916da974584b33b1aeced5f3bb346 Quoting from the commit: "systemd people are not willing to play nice with the rest of the world. Therefore there is no reason

Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme

On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 13:57 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > This is the latest screenshot. I removed the ugly huge button and > replaced it with a hyperlink. In the screenshot, the hyperlink has the > mouse pointer above it although the pointer is not captured. > >

Re: [DNG] remove systemd for the love of Yog-Sothoth already

the source package from the pristine-tar branch and the binary files with dpkg-buildpackage. On 24/08/15 14:00, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote: This issue is still hindering me from fully maintain packages, a clear TODO is needed, preferably somewhere on the Devuan website. I meant

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

On Fri, 2015-09-11 at 22:34 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > You are right Edward, i was thinking in the transposition matrix. > > > El 11/09/15 a las 19:32, Edward Bartolo escribió: > > > > > > > only square matrices can > > > have an inverse If a square matrix is singular, i.e. the determinant is

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

On Wed, 2015-09-30 at 08:40 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Screenshot showing main GUI and dialog. > http://s1.postimg.org/94xipt3qn/2015_09_30_083837_1600x900_scrot.png Hi Edward, some small comments: - The Network Manager display lists available interfaces, and shows that you are connected:

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

On Tue, 2015-12-08 at 23:06 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi Aitor et al, > > This seems to be a build dependency for the frontend. At least version > fpc-source 2.6.2 is needed to compile the frontend. Process.inc > exports RunCommand and this is used by the frontend. > > Do you know where I

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

On Thu, 2015-12-10 at 19:40 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi Aitor et al, > > netman/changelog contains this information: > > netman (0.1.1~468c97d-jessie2) unstable; urgency=medium > >   * New release. Closes: #468c97d >   * Changed debian/netman-backend.postinst >   * Changed debian/rules.

Re: [DNG] Debianising my uploaded version of netman.

On Thu, 2015-12-10 at 23:07 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi Rainer, > > Thanks for your help. I will have a deeper look at netman/debian > tomorrow. Instead of separating the debianization directory contents , > I can create a debianized netman source tree and an undebianized > source tree.

Re: [DNG] Which email client can I use to properly quote emails?

On Tue, 2015-12-15 at 11:31 +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 14/12/2015 21:57, Edward Bartolo a écrit : > > On 14/12/2015, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > > Thanks for this tip. I tried icedove (aka Thunderbird) but was > > immediately dissuaded from using it as it looks too bloated

Re: [DNG] Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities

On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 20:43 +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > k...@aspodata.se writes: > > chaosesquet...@cock.li: > > > I don't understand the desire to change it at all. See UsrMerge discussion on debian-devel. They wan to move most stuff in / to /usr and make it readonly. (The only sensible

Re: [DNG] Devuan Weekly News LX

On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 09:29 -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 02:43:57PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > > ... > > We are discovering day after day that "init freedom" is about > > the emerged part of the iceberg. Debian still pretends to offer init > > freedom. What is under

Re: [DNG] FW: support for merged /usr in Debian

Hi Roger, Could you please send your text below to debian-devel too? Here at Devuan most people are aware of the issues. Unfortunately many of the Debian developers/maintainers aren't :( On Sun, 2016-01-03 at 13:25 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > It's not something that nefarious.  It's about

Re: [DNG] netman-autostart_0.1.1

On Wed, 2016-01-06 at 12:22 +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Edward, > >  > > What is wrong? I opened the patch with medit to view the offending > > characters. In case understanding the cause of this issue an unjustied > > long time, I can always apply the patch manually by editing text > >

Re: [DNG] Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities

On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 17:43 +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 04/01/2016 17:32, Svante Signell a écrit : > Just an idea: Would it be possible to detect the hardware of each computer > being installed on and after that install the needed modules? Preferably the > modules should not be loc

Re: [DNG] Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities

On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 16:53 +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 04/01/2016 16:26, Hendrik Boom a écrit : > > I meant > > > > 4) Let the installer build the kernel, depending on what the hardware > > > > and > > > > file systems being installed actually need. > >  Maybe Gentoo does this, although

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

On Mon, 2015-12-28 at 09:26 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 06:59:31 -0500 > Mitt Green wrote: > > > And also I'd go with vim-tiny as it is really close to the original > > and without nano by default. > > And make sure it is in /sbin, so it is

Re: [DNG] Experiencing with GtkBuilder

On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 15:33 +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi KatolaZ, > > I agree with you: using "cd build; cmake ../" with *the final purpose* of > installing the spinner in the system is a contorsionism. > > Although any user on planet Earth will install the spinner in any OS. With or > without

Re: [DNG] Experiencing with GtkBuilder

On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 17:04 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On 26/11/2015 15:00, Svante Signell wrote: > > On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 15:33 +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > > >  > > Hi, what's wrong with plain GNU make, and the GNU auto-tools? > > Nothing is wrong with "plain

Re: [DNG] Experiencing with GtkBuilder

On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 22:50 +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Svante Signell <svante.sign...@gmail.com> writes: > > On Thu, 2015-11-26 at 19:36 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > > Well, as long as you work with configure.ac, Makefile.am and confiugre.h.in > > l

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 08:48 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 12:30:16 +0100 > Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > > user@devuan:~$ echo "xfce4-session" > ~/.xinitrc   > > > > I already noticed this in your upgrade guide – and especially then it's not > > unlikely to

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 13:22 +0100, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 08:48:45 -0300 > Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > > Simple enough to change this into: > > > > user@devuan:~$ echo "xfce4-session" >> ~/.xinitrc   > > > Yes – if there's no "exit"

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

On Mon, 2016-05-30 at 17:15 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > dear Arnt, > > On Mon, 30 May 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > >  > > ..I should have said "packaged into .debs ready for user tests?", > Parazyd is planning to package Openrc. > There is already an openrc package in Debian (which I am

[DNG] OpenRC: Was: Re: Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 138

On Thu, 2016-05-26 at 11:28 +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: Please keep the subject, even if you are reading the mails via the Digest service! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Mini init script written in Perl boots.

On Fri, 2016-06-17 at 20:19 +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 03:02:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Well, if your definition of "initialisation" is just "getting > something that can boot and shut down without requiring journal > restores or fsck", then I don't see why Edward is

[DNG] [Fwd: Re: policykit-1 | Requires libpam-systemd which can't be installed (#7)]

--- Begin Message --- On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 18:42 +0200, ItchyPirate wrote: > policykit-1 requires libpam-systemd which in turn requires systemd . Since > systemd is currently not available in Devuan, that makes policykit-1 > impossible to install. This is a big problem for for those of us with HP

Re: [DNG] Vote for/against netman name change

YES On Thu, 2016-02-04 at 08:03 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > This mail thread is intended to collect votes regarding netman's name > change. The question is: > > Do you agree to renaming netman? > > The answers should be YES and NO. No long replies needed, I will > adhere to the

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 19:03 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only > change the name of the project. > > Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!! > > On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson wrote: > > > On February 6, 2016 at

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

On Wed, 2016-02-03 at 08:05 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several > pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial > projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a > unique name so

Re: [DNG] Runlevels (Was: Lead BusyBox developer on sysvinit)

On Fri, 2016-02-19 at 15:45 +, Simon Hobson wrote: > Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > > The abstract definition of 'runlevel' is (as far as I'm aware of it): > > "Set of processes supposed to be running". > > That's what I understand it to be. FYI: You might be

Re: [DNG] Read the news! UbuntuBSD

On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 08:47 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:22:39 -0300 > Marlon Nunes wrote: > > > > > On 2016-03-21 09:19, Marlon Nunes wrote: > > > > > > http://news.softpedia.com/news/meet-ubuntubsd-unix-for-human-beings-501959 > > > .shtml > > >

Re: [DNG] exegnu-devuan

On Mon, 2016-04-25 at 15:54 +0100, David Hare wrote: > I just installed qemu again and successfully booted both the latest > unmodified Refracta and ExeGNU ISO's, through to the desktop, without > noticing any significant errors > > qemu-system-x86_64 -m 384 -cdrom snapshot_current.iso > >

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 23:57 +0300, Mitt Green wrote: > ‎Rob van der Putten wrote: > > > > > Which desktops work without systemd? > > A list would be nice. > Every desktop environment is known > to work without systemd. GNOME3 works > on Funtoo, Slackware, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, > DragonflyBSD. It

[DNG] Skype: Re: What do we want for ascii ?

On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 15:26 +0800, Brad Campbell wrote: > On 22/04/16 12:51, Joel Roth wrote: > > > > > Skype for Linux, OTOH, *is* stale (and last time I checked was > > tricky to install) AIUI intentionally so due to Microsoft's > > special love for Linux. > >  > > brad@bkmac:~$ apt-cache

Re: [DNG] Skype: Re: What do we want for ascii ?

On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 10:02 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 22/04/2016 09:56, Svante Signell a écrit : > >  > > The problem is to install the (only available) 32bit (old) binaries on a > > 64bit architecture. > > >  You need to install 32-bit pulse-audio. Well,

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 06:26 -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: > On 2016-05-18 12:11, Svante Signell wrote: > > > ... > > I'm listed as a co-maintainer of openrc (as well as ifupdown). > > However, due to > > the hostile environment in Debian I'm reluctant to do any serious

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

On Tue, 2016-05-17 at 13:38 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 09:27:43PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > > > I sincerely wish the remedy of installing openrc and pinning systemd > > > would work, but I'm sure it won't on the mid-long term. > > It obviously can't. The

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

On Thu, 2016-05-12 at 22:59 +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Thu, 12 May 2016 10:49:15 +0200 > aitor_czr wrote: > > > Sorry for my two latest emails. The date was wrong again... It's > > due > > to the BIOS of one concrete computer. > > > Hi Aitor, > > if you run

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

On Tue, 2016-05-03 at 23:24 +0200, parazyd wrote: > On Tue, 03 May 2016, Svante Signell wrote: >  > As I've stated at the beginning of this whole thread, debian-openrc is > irrelevant and a bad way to solve the whole issue of using OpenRC > properly, becase they keep using LSB inits

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

On Tue, 2016-05-03 at 23:05 +0200, parazyd wrote: > On Tue, 03 May 2016, Svante Signell wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2016-05-03 at 16:32 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:06:07 -0400 (EDT) > > >   > > > Beca

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

On Tue, 2016-05-03 at 10:06 -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > - Original Message - > > > > From: "KatolaZ" > > > > But do we really need all that complication? Couldn't we just leave > > the initscript of each init system in a different directory and *tell > > the init

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

On Tue, 2016-05-03 at 16:32 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:06:07 -0400 (EDT) >  > Because OpenRC has seen fit to intermix their init scripts > with sysvinit's in /etc/init.d, I'd suggest that any files needed by > OpenRC be kept somewhere besides /etc/init.d. > Hi Steve, We

Re: [DNG] apt-get vs. aptitude ?

On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 10:22 +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 04:25:20PM -0500, dev wrote: > > > > On 04/15/2016 03:36 PM, Linux O'Beardly wrote: > > > For what it's worth, much of the apt vs aptitude is preference > > > and > > > opinion.  However, aptitude does bit better of a job

Re: [DNG] Devuan Web A11y

On Wed, 2016-04-20 at 14:54 +, Go Linux wrote: > On Wed, 4/20/16, Svante Signell <svante.sign...@gmail.com> wrote: > >  Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan Web A11y >  To: dng@lists.dyne.org >  Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 9:38 AM >   > On Tue, 2016-04-19 at

[DNG] Your computer clock: Was:Re: vdev

On Thu, 2016-08-11 at 02:00 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > >   Aitor. > Aitor, your computer clock is running ahead again. Can you please sync with ntpdate regularly in a cron script (or replace the CMOS battery?) Thanks! ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Firefox-ESR and XUL

On Fri, 2016-07-01 at 11:23 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 04:04:35 +0200 >  > I thought the list had declared Palemoon a reasonable substitute for > Firefox and Chromium. I've been using it ever since you guys started > talking about it, and I'm quite pleased. Is it packaged for

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 18:29 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > > Hi fsmithred, >  >   > I can't boot the system with vdev: > > >     Booting the kernel. > >     [ .  ]   Failed to execute / init  ( error - 13 ) > >     can't run  '/etc/init.d/rsC'   No such file or directory This is a

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 20:38 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > However, it's somewhat peculiar that the CD (and DVD) Devuan installs  > require network. Without network it gets stuck early on. (Or maybe I'm  > doing something wrong there again?) Are you using the beta images from April? Due to a

Re: [DNG] Openrc

On Sun, 2016-09-11 at 17:44 +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > I was away from the keyboard a very long time (had to work > outside/outdoor for a life), so very likely i missed a lot. Sorry in > anticipation if i'm doubling something: > > One system is/was running devuan ascii quite nicely but

Re: [DNG] Openrc

On Sun, 2016-09-11 at 23:41 +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > Am Sun, 11 Sep 2016 18:09:56 +0200 > schrieb Svante Signell <svante.sign...@gmail.com>: >  > > > > Maybe you have to install sys-rc before installing openrc? > > The version is 0.21-2. > > Do

Re: [DNG] Openrc

On Sun, 2016-09-11 at 23:59 +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > Am Sun, 11 Sep 2016 18:09:56 +0200 > schrieb Svante Signell <svante.sign...@gmail.com>: > > > > > Maybe you have to install sys-rc before installing openrc? > > I looked and i have already inst

[DNG] vdev packaging Was: Re: Dng Digest, Vol 23, Issue 103

On Fri, 2016-08-26 at 16:00 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: >  > This is what i get trying to register in your website: > 2 errors prohibited this user from being saved: > Email has already been taken > Username has already been taken Please don't reply to a Digest mail without changing to the correct

Re: [DNG] Which license for UMENU2?

On Wed, 2016-08-24 at 09:32 -0500, Jim Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Steve Litt > wrote: > >  > > Any opinions on which to choose? > Don't know if this would make any difference to you or not, but the > Linux kernel is released under the GPLv2 only

Re: [DNG] Mouse won't release in Devuan beta 2 with Qemu

On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 13:18 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Fsmithred and I have put a heckofa lot of time into this, and frankly > need help from everyone who can reproduce this problem (Fsmithred > can't). > > The problem is this:  When you run either Refracta or Devuan Jessie > Beta 2

Re: [DNG] eudev status

On Sat, 2016-12-24 at 18:38 +0100, Anto wrote: > Hello Hendrik, > > I think that was the idea of Jaret to change all package names into * > eudev*, instead of keeping them the same as Gentoo does. But I could > never made it properly working as a lot of packages still depend on  > mostly libudev.

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

On Fri, 2017-04-21 at 18:14 +0200, Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > Dear Init Freedom Lovers, > > Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > Our April 2017 gift to you is the long-awaited release of Devuan > Jessie stable release candidate (1.0.0-RC). If all goes as planned, > this will be

Re: [DNG] overriding install paths in debian/rules

On Wed, 2017-03-08 at 17:38 +1300, Daniel Reurich wrote: > Hi, > > I need a bit of advice with regards to the specific usage of overrides > in debian/rules. > > The situation I have is I want to rename an installed in the debian > package so I can use dpkg alternatives.  I know I can do this

Re: [DNG] KVM + QEMU on Devuan 1.0

On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 12:06 +0200, alberto.se...@tin.it wrote: > Hello, > >   everyone has tried installing and using kvm + qmeu on Devuan 1.0 ? Yes, several instances. No problem :) Download: wget https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/installer-iso/devuan_jessie _1.0.0_amd64_NETINST.iso

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 19:57 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there Hi > Which desktops work without systemd? > A list would be nice. I'm running mate on an upgraded to ascii VM. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 03:56 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170710-23:39+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 14:12 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > Hi Svante and everybody! > > > > > > (and zap, to whom you right as second person in

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 15:35 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > > > > > > > $ ls -ltr sysvinit-utils_2.88dsf-59.9_amd64.deb \ > > > > > > This one is not OK, see below. This is the Debian (unpatched > > > version) > > > No, the sysvinit packages you need are 2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2 and > > > you

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 17:26 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > Please provide version 2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2 of sysvinit-utils on > > your > > web page. Version 2.88dsf-59.9 is not Devuanized!! And update > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128 correspondingly. > Do I understand correctly

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 17:54 -0400, zap wrote: > contrib and non-free are unsafe in my opinion... > > > #Contains no source files :( > > deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii-proposed main Just remove the entries below then. No prob ;) > > contrib > > non-free > >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 14:12 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Hi Svante and everybody! > > (and zap, to whom you right as second person in the email I'm > replying to. zap > might give useful advice, since he --later-- reported he successfully > installed > OpenRC) > > Svante, I'm taking your

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 15:26 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > I've opened a topic: > OpenRC installation in Devuan Ascii > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128 > and yes I have (one snag left to understand, as per the second post > in that topic) successfully ran: > apt-get source util-linux

Re: [DNG] What is GNU/Linux?

On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 21:36 +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote: > My understanding is, that Linux is the kernel, and GNU is the > userland.  > Is systemd part of GNU/Linux? If not, how do we call a systemd Linux? lendows (tm) ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Wed, 2017-07-12 at 12:14 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170711-23:18+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > > Now it's sorted right, I hope: > OpenRC installation in Devuan Ascii > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128#p328 Just FTR, zap got the amd64 packages from me

Re: [DNG] WARNING! DO NOT APT-GET UPDATE/UPGRADE ON ASCII

On Wed, 2017-06-28 at 17:38 -0400, zap wrote: > > ;)  anyways though thank you for helping me apply the fix on my > system, I don't know what would have happened one way or another, but > thank you. I downgraded successfully! And thank you for reporting this issue so it could be resolved so

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

On Thu, 2017-06-29 at 19:34 -0400, zap wrote: > not really complaining for the most part. But I am curious that's > all. > Hi zap, As I wrote earlier, you can install openrc by: 0) Enable ascii in /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii main 1) add to

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

On Fri, 2017-06-30 at 20:12 -0400, zap wrote: > It is a little too confusing trying to install openrc at the moment > so I > will pass for now... > > It is just a shame that the runit-init package was taken down... The instructions are crystal clear... (And btw: Daniel Reurich is working hard to

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

Hi, Seems like max file size is 40k for the mailing list, so the mail to the list is blocked. zap, did the attached files reach your private mail? On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 16:59 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Sat, 2017-07-01 at 19:54 -0400, zap wrote: > > > >

Re: [DNG] How to disable a service in sysvinit?

On Tue, 2017-07-04 at 21:46 +0100, Rowland Penny wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 16:39:03 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > What's the official way to disable a service in sysvinit? In this > > case > > I want to disable sshd so I can put it in runit. > > >

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 14:51 -0400, zap wrote: > > I appear to be getting conflicts, so I must need sysvinit-utils in > deb > form. > this probably is the last thing I need at the moment to make it > work... Sorry, but you have to show us what conflicts you see... And your /etc/apt/sources.list,

Re: [DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 09:58 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170705-23:48+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > On Wed, 2017-07-05 at 21:05 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > > > If you are on i386 or amd64 I can send you the required debs for > > 2.29.2-1+devuan1 from ascii-p

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