Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Fri, 2017-07-28 at 07:27 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > Yes, I don't know why it's built, and I'm not sure what it is, but > it > came with the release building. Presumably some setting could be > changed > to avoid it, but I haven't looked into it. So far I've managed to > just > ignore it :-) > > There is no package named vdev-dbgsym in debian/control: > > > > http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/v/vdev/ FYI: They are built automagically. See e.g. eudev's debian/control file is missing a dbgsym file too :) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
Yes, I don't know why it's built, and I'm not sure what it is, but it came with the release building. Presumably some setting could be changed to avoid it, but I haven't looked into it. So far I've managed to just ignore it :-) regards, Ralph. aitor_czr wrote on 28/07/17 02:24: Hi Ralph, On 07/18/2017 05:54 AM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: debhttp://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main deb-srchttp://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main There is no package named vdev-dbgsym in debian/control: http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/v/vdev/ ??? Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
Hi Ralph, On 07/18/2017 05:54 AM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: debhttp://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main deb-srchttp://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main There is no package named vdev-dbgsym in debian/control: http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/v/vdev/ ??? Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 04:27:44PM -0400, Fungi4All wrote: > Are all the bug reports going to bugs.debian.whoreg? No, they shouldn't, as you can see here: http://bugs.devuan.org Which version of reportbug are you using? On which release? HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3224#p3224 by nixer: I have a couple of "nasty" hacks. They are done on all my devuan installs. So, I will share. Before I start, one thing you may want to know. I have a home network server operational 24/7. It is only off during power outages, which is seldom. The first of my hacks begin with already having successfully configured nfs to be shared on the server, and both hacks depend on the installation of and configuring autofs on the client computers. Autofs is used on both hacks, to mount nfs network mounts and to mount the local partitions. With autofs, the fstab file is not altered, but fstab may need to be altered to successfully test and troubleshoot the mount procedure. Hack #1 - Recycle and Reuse Apt Cache, Use NFS network mount (with autofs) I use this "nasty hack" to use, share, and recycle my downloaded apt cache across all my devuan installations. I rename /var/cache/apt/archives to archives.local and then I create a symlink to the network mount location. - Manually create the folder /mnt/nfs, and then /mnt/nfs/auto-server-data - Install autofs, as root apt-get install autofs - Add the below to /etc/auto.master, adjusting for your paths # nfs shares /mnt/nfs/auto-server-data /etc/auto.nfs --timeout=30 --ghost - Create the file /etc/auto.nfs and add to it, adjusting to your needs data -fstype=nfs,rw 192.168.1.100:/mnt/data As root, enter the command service autofs restart These two entries combined will mount the remote location from 192.168.1.100:/mnt/data, and mount it locally at /mnt/nfs/auto-server-data/data. The mount will timeout after 30 seconds (minutes?) and the "data" folder itself will disappear. Don't worry, it will be re-created as needed, and upon a re-mount. After it is successfully mounted, then the symlink to /var/cache/apt/archives can be created with, and adjust for your paths: # ln -s /mnt/nfs/auto-server-data/data/devuan/apt/archives /var/cache/apt/archives For any permissions problem on the local system, I adjust the network folder to 0777. Be sure to set apt to not delete the cache. I do this from within synaptic. This hack allows me to save bandwidth on the repository servers as I have several devuan installs in my network.___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
Are all the bug reports going to bugs.debian.whoreg?___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:26:42AM -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: [cut] > > If I understand it very well to you. > > The problem is that I do not know how to proceed since it is not a package. > The problem is the release file, which must have the name of the codename and > not have none. Please file the bug tpo the package "amprolla". Thanks KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
- Original Message - From: "Antony Stone" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement > On Tuesday 18 July 2017 at 15:59:01, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > >> >- Original Message - >> >From: "KatolaZ" >> >To: >> >Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:32 AM >> >Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement >> > >> >And also, could you please file a bug report on bugs.devuan.org? >> >> I have never used it and I do not know how to do it. I do not know if it's >> too much for you to do for me. > > Have you looked at http://bugs.devuan.org/Reporting.html ? > > You can even submit a report by email - it can't get much simpler than that :) > > > Antony. > > -- > Programming is a Dark Art, and it will always be. The programmer is > fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe: > entropy and human stupidity. They're not things you can always > overcome with a "methodology" or on a schedule. > > - Damian Conway, Perl God > > Please reply to the list; > please *don't* CC me. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > If I understand it very well to you. The problem is that I do not know how to proceed since it is not a package. The problem is the release file, which must have the name of the codename and not have none. has: Codename: none should have: Codename: experimental Anyway send me a message, I do not know if it's the right way. The message read as follows: subject: Hello says 'idonis' Package: Release Version: experimental Has on the line: Codename: none Must possess: Codename: experimental This prevents me from downloading the repositories to my PC. Which prevents me from using devuan in places where there is no Internet access. goodbye___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:59:01AM -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > >- Original Message - From: "KatolaZ" > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:32 AM > >Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement > > > >And also, could you please file a bug report on bugs.devuan.org? > > I have never used it and I do not know how to do it. I do not know if it's > too much for you to do for me. You use the "reportbug" tool, which should be already installed in your system. It's not like I don't want to do it, rather it is far better if more and more Devuan users are able to report bugs: it's a very good way of helping Devuan out. So please consider giving a try to reportbug (it's not difficult), and thank you in advance for your time :) > > From now thank you for your time, which if I would be very useful to solve > this problem. Not only to me but to many people in my country since we here > many are deprived of the connectivity so that for their use we are forced to > download the repository locally. I do not know if this happens in other > countries. > I really understand the problem. Please try using apt-mirror in the meanwhile. HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Tuesday 18 July 2017 at 15:59:01, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > >- Original Message - > >From: "KatolaZ" > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:32 AM > >Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement > > > >And also, could you please file a bug report on bugs.devuan.org? > > I have never used it and I do not know how to do it. I do not know if it's > too much for you to do for me. Have you looked at http://bugs.devuan.org/Reporting.html ? You can even submit a report by email - it can't get much simpler than that :) Antony. -- Programming is a Dark Art, and it will always be. The programmer is fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity. They're not things you can always overcome with a "methodology" or on a schedule. - Damian Conway, Perl God Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
- Original Message - From: "KatolaZ" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement And also, could you please file a bug report on bugs.devuan.org? I have never used it and I do not know how to do it. I do not know if it's too much for you to do for me. From now thank you for your time, which if I would be very useful to solve this problem. Not only to me but to many people in my country since we here many are deprived of the connectivity so that for their use we are forced to download the repository locally. I do not know if this happens in other countries. Thanks KatolaZ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Best Regards -- Ismael Devuan User : http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 09:46:40AM -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > > English is not my native language, so I may not explain it well. > Try the following script and you will notice the error that is giving me > when trying to download the repository for my pc. > That does not happen to me either with jessie or ascii > OK, I see your point now. It seems that the Release file generated under /devuan/dists/experimental contains : Origin: Devuan Label: Master Suite: experimental Version: 1.0.0 Codename: None while the one downloaded from ftp.debian.org is more like: Origin: Debian Label: Debian Suite: experimental Codename: experimental ... and apparently debmirror doesn't like it (notice the "Codename: None" vs "Codename: experimental"). It must be something peculiar to debmirror though, since apt, apt-get, aptitute, and synaptic (and also apt-mirror, AFAIK) do not seem to be affected. There is no doubt we should fix it, but maybe you can try apt-mirror of debmirror in the meanwhile? And also, could you please file a bug report on bugs.devuan.org? Thanks KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
- Original Message - From: "KatolaZ" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng English is not my native language, so I may not explain it well. Try the following script and you will notice the error that is giving me when trying to download the repository for my pc. That does not happen to me either with jessie or ascii #!/bin/sh if pidof -x $(basename $0) > /dev/null; then for p in $(pidof -x $(basename $0)); do if [ $p -ne $$ ]; then exit fi done fi ARQUITECTURA=i386,amd64 METODO=http RAMA=experimental HOST=auto.mirror.devuan.org DIR_MIRROR=/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan/experimental SECCIONES=main echo "Updating repositories DEVUAN 'experimental'; main" debmirror -a ${ARQUITECTURA} \ -s ${SECCIONES} \ -h ${HOST}/devuan \ -d ${RAMA} -r / --progress \ -e ${METODO} --postcleanup --ignore-small-errors --ignore-missing-release --ignore-release-gpg --nosource --allow-dist-rename \ --diff=none \ ${DIR_MIRROR} *** If you try this other you will see that it works correctly *** #!/bin/sh if pidof -x $(basename $0) > /dev/null; then for p in $(pidof -x $(basename $0)); do if [ $p -ne $$ ]; then exit fi done fi ARQUITECTURA=i386,amd64 METODO=http RAMA=ascii HOST=auto.mirror.devuan.org DIR_MIRROR=/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan/ascii/ascii SECCIONES=main/debian-installer,main,contrib,non-free echo "Updating repositories DEVUAN 'merged'; main/debian-installer, main, contrib, non-free" debmirror -a ${ARQUITECTURA} \ -s ${SECCIONES} \ -h ${HOST}/merged \ -d ${RAMA} -r / --progress \ -e ${METODO} --postcleanup --ignore-small-errors --ignore-missing-release --ignore-release-gpg --nosource --allow-dist-rename \ --diff=none \ ${DIR_MIRROR} Best Regards -- Ismael Devuan User : http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 09:22:11AM -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: [cut] > > I'm trying to download it locally because I use it without internet access. > > Where I live very few people have access to the internet and in their homes > practically nobody, that is why usually the one who has access to the > internet downloads it and then is used in the local pc, for it is written in > the source .list for example: > Deb file: /// mnt / data / systems / linux / devuan / jessie / jessie / > jessie non-free contrib main > But this is not for experimental, rather for Jessie... According to the script you showed below: [cut] > ARQUITECTURA=i386,amd64 > METODO=http > RAMA=experimental > HOST=auto.mirror.devuan.org > DIR_MIRROR=/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan/experimental > SECCIONES=main > ...your deb line in sources.list should look like: deb file:///mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan/ experimental main note the space between "devuan/" and "experimental". I might have totally missed your point though, but the error you showed a few mails back is typical of a wrong repo path. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
- Original Message - From: "KatolaZ" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng I'm trying to download it locally because I use it without internet access. Where I live very few people have access to the internet and in their homes practically nobody, that is why usually the one who has access to the internet downloads it and then is used in the local pc, for it is written in the source .list for example: Deb file: /// mnt / data / systems / linux / devuan / jessie / jessie / jessie non-free contrib main The script I have to download the reset is as follows: #!/bin/sh if pidof -x $(basename $0) > /dev/null; then for p in $(pidof -x $(basename $0)); do if [ $p -ne $$ ]; then exit fi done fi ARQUITECTURA=i386,amd64 METODO=http RAMA=experimental HOST=auto.mirror.devuan.org DIR_MIRROR=/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan/experimental SECCIONES=main echo "=" echo "Actualizando los repositorios DEVUAN 'experimental'; main" echo "=" echo "" debmirror -a ${ARQUITECTURA} \ -s ${SECCIONES} \ -h ${HOST}/devuan \ -d ${RAMA} -r / --progress \ -e ${METODO} --postcleanup --ignore-small-errors --ignore-missing-release --ignore-release-gpg --nosource --allow-dist-rename \ --diff=none \ ${DIR_MIRROR} * However, the main repository script does work: #!/bin/sh if pidof -x $(basename $0) > /dev/null; then for p in $(pidof -x $(basename $0)); do if [ $p -ne $$ ]; then exit fi done fi ARQUITECTURA=i386,amd64 METODO=http RAMA=ascii HOST=auto.mirror.devuan.org DIR_MIRROR=/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan/ascii/ascii SECCIONES=main/debian-installer,main,contrib,non-free echo "=" echo "Actualizando los repositorios DEVUAN 'merged'; main/debian-installer, main, contrib, non-free" echo "=" echo "" debmirror -a ${ARQUITECTURA} \ -s ${SECCIONES} \ -h ${HOST}/merged \ -d ${RAMA} -r / --progress \ -e ${METODO} --postcleanup --ignore-small-errors --ignore-missing-release --ignore-release-gpg --nosource --allow-dist-rename \ --diff=none \ ${DIR_MIRROR} Best Regards -- Ismael Devuan User : http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 08:56:11AM -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: [cutting-off-a-whole-bunch-of-irrelevant-lines] > > The problem is that try to download > http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan//dists/None/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz > > And should download: > http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan//dists/experimental/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz > > To my understanding the problem is in the Release file on the line that > says: could you please show the precise line you are using to in your sources.list to include the experimental repo? Thanks KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 08:43:11AM -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Arnt Karlsen" [a-276-lines-long-cut-of-mostly-irrelevant-stuff] Could I just encourage all of us to please have a fresh look at one of the links below: - http://www.kassj.com/netiquette/netiquette.html#5 - https://earlydues.usanethosting.com/ieel/netiquette.htm#quote - https://www.lifewire.com/quoting-original-email-message-1165432 These are just the first few results I got by googling "email quoting netiquette". Pick any other you like. They shouls say more or less the same thing (i.e., something in the lines of "...avoid quoting 276 lines when replying just to the last three lines of an email...") My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
- Original Message - From: "Arnt Karlsen" To: Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:08:02 -0400, Ismael wrote in message : - Original Message - From: "Arnt Karlsen" To: "Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:46:26 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message > : > >> On 17 July 2017 at 17:44, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:23:14 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message >> > : >> > >> > > Hello everyone, >> > > >> > > I have just subscribed recently. >> > > Could someone please enlighten me on the current udev >> > > replacement status? I found there was vdev project but it >> > > looks abandoned (?) Is there any other? >> > > >> > >> > ..I'm on experimental vdev-0.1.2, upgraded from jessie >> > vdev-0.1.1. We also have eudev. >> > >> > ..my understanding is much of the systemd-udev development is >> > "just" obfuscation, to cover up systemd's true purpose and >> > capabilities. My understanding comes from my experience with >> > "banana republic" and Cold War politics. >> >> Hi, >> >> thanks for response. >> Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not >> finding both in any of devuan repos. > > ..add these "experimental" lines, and re-try 'apt-get update': > root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > ... > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > # contrib > # non-free > # > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > # contrib > # non-free > > ..once you have vdev installed and working, you may consider > commenting my "experimental" lines out. > I haven't tried eudev on a fresh install, only on a messy and > failed recovery attempt on an 8 yr old Debian install. > > ..my messy /etc/apt/sources.list: > root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > # Devuan repositories > # > deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free > > # > deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib > non-free > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-security.list > # > deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main > contrib non-free > > # > deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main > contrib non-free > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-updates.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main > contrib non-free > > # > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main > contrib non-free > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-proposed-updates.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates > main contrib non-free > > # > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates > main contrib non-free > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-backports.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main > contrib non-free > # > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main > contrib non-free > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > contrib non-free > # > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > contrib non-free > > # https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DevuanInstall > # > deb > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian > jessie main > > # > deb-src > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian > jessie main > > # > deb > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian > jessie main > > # > deb-src > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian > jessie main > > > -- > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... > Scenarios always come in sets of three: > best case, worst case, and just in case. I get the repository error when trying to download it. How can I solve this problem? root@(none):/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan# sh rdexperimental.sh = Actualizando los repositorios DEVUAN 'experimental'; main ==
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
- Original Message - From: "Arnt Karlsen" To: Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:08:02 -0400, Ismael wrote in message : - Original Message - From: "Arnt Karlsen" To: "Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:46:26 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message > : > >> On 17 July 2017 at 17:44, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:23:14 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message >> > : >> > >> > > Hello everyone, >> > > >> > > I have just subscribed recently. >> > > Could someone please enlighten me on the current udev >> > > replacement status? I found there was vdev project but it >> > > looks abandoned (?) Is there any other? >> > > >> > >> > ..I'm on experimental vdev-0.1.2, upgraded from jessie >> > vdev-0.1.1. We also have eudev. >> > >> > ..my understanding is much of the systemd-udev development is >> > "just" obfuscation, to cover up systemd's true purpose and >> > capabilities. My understanding comes from my experience with >> > "banana republic" and Cold War politics. >> >> Hi, >> >> thanks for response. >> Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not >> finding both in any of devuan repos. > > ..add these "experimental" lines, and re-try 'apt-get update': > root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > ... > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > # contrib > # non-free > # > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > # contrib > # non-free > > ..once you have vdev installed and working, you may consider > commenting my "experimental" lines out. > I haven't tried eudev on a fresh install, only on a messy and > failed recovery attempt on an 8 yr old Debian install. > > ..my messy /etc/apt/sources.list: > root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > # Devuan repositories > # > deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free > > # > deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib > non-free > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-security.list > # > deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main > contrib non-free > > # > deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main > contrib non-free > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-updates.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main > contrib non-free > > # > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main > contrib non-free > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-proposed-updates.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates > main contrib non-free > > # > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates > main contrib non-free > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-backports.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main > contrib non-free > # > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main > contrib non-free > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > contrib non-free > # > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > contrib non-free > > # https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DevuanInstall > # > deb > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian > jessie main > > # > deb-src > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian > jessie main > > # > deb > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian > jessie main > > # > deb-src > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian > jessie main > > > -- > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... > Scenarios always come in sets of three: > best case, worst case, and just in case. I get the repository error when trying to download it. How can I solve this problem? root@(none):/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan# sh rdexperimental.sh = Actualizando los repositorios DEVUAN 'experimental'; main ==
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
Steve Litt wrote on 18/07/17 06:10: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:19:18 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 06:02:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) Ok, be careful though, since stuff in experimental can be broken and break other things, so you are warned :) 1: Is there a way I can install vdev and only vdev from experimental? How? a) ensure the experimental repository is among the sources, e.g. add a file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list with the content (2 lines): deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main b) (personal choice) add "pinning" of these packages, e.g. by adding a file /etc/apt/preferences.d/reluctant-experimental, with the content (3 lines): Package: * Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 80 (I have 80; other people use 100 or 10.) c) apt-get update d) apt-get install -t experimental vdev The last step should then install the vdev package, including the replacement library for libudev1, and the init script. It will also stow away bits of the udev installation so as to allow a later udev choice (not reinstalling). See below. Further, it will install the vdev init script overriding the udev init scripts, and it will replace udev in the initram building. 2: Is there a way I can later go back to udev? How? With some luck, the support script /usr/share/vdev/vdev-install.sh will help you with that. You tell it your choice of either "vdev" or "udev", and it changes your system accordingly if needed. It's worth to note that "vdev" only manages the /dev and it ignores all udev rules, in particular those that include running various scripts upon hardware changes. If those are important to you, you should rather consider using "eudev" which basically is a different udev implementation (although trailing any udev development), and thus aims to deal with the udev rules files in pretty much the way udev does. Ralph. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt July 2017 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
New release of the Manjaro OpenRC Xfce ISO. As a reference this is from my second most favorite distro and it is current/recent. I believe up until 16.*** the transition from systemd to openrc was viable and documented. Since then most efforts result in breaking everything, so they have managed to produce OpenRC isos. Like it is a virus, the further the cow-web evolves the harder it is to sterilize. New release of the Manjaro OpenRC Xfce ISO. Packages include: Linux 4.9.34 OpenRC 0.26.3 Eudev 3.2.2 Elogind 229.6 Main changes: Includes newer version of the Calamares which fixes a bug that generated weak password hashes (link). This build experiments with a hybrid ALSA Pulseaudio setup in which PulseAudio uses the ALSA dmix backend (link11) and is configured to start only when an application uses/needs it. For people who do not want it it should be easy to remove with pacman -Rs pulseaudio pavucontrol, while for people who have trouble with plain ALSA but pulse works for them out of the box can enable it by default adding PulseAudio to startup (Settings -> Session and Startup -> Start Pulseaudio sound server), and reverting the changes done to/etc/pulse/default.conf (link11). Firefox has replaced Palemoon. Since version 54 Firefox seems smoother and more responsive than before (on real hardware, in virtualbox it seems slower) due to multi process rendering; for older, less powerful systems or if you just prefer it, Palemoon can be installed with pacman -S palemoon-bin like it was in the previous version of the ISO. Download: https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjaro-openrc-dev/files/17.0.2/24 Possible issues: The mute key on the keyboard (generating a XF86AudioMute event) or mute shortcut on the volumeicon may not work correctly in this hybrid ALSA pulse system; as a workaround it have included a script mute-unmute-audio (in /usr/local/bin) which may work. If the script works a keybind can be added for it (also let me know so that if a large number of people experience this issue it can be used by default). Relevant link here. P.S. Let me know if the hybrid ALSA PulseAudio system works or we should switch to something else.___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 23:41:05 +0200, Adam wrote in message <20170717214105.wdl77u6byfgtn...@angband.pl>: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 04:10:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > 1: Is there a way I can install vdev and only vdev from > > experimental? How? > > Nothing ever gets installed from experimental unless you explicitly > say so. ...by inserting " -t experimental " between "apt-get|aptitude \ install" and the package names you want to install. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:08:22 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote in message <3077089df6720e694d19fe6a8b807...@dyne.org>: > On 2017-07-17 15:10, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:19:18 +0100 > > KatolaZ wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 06:02:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky > >> wrote: > >> > Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) > >> > > >> > >> Ok, be careful though, since stuff in experimental can be broken > >> and break other things, so you are warned :) > > > > 1: Is there a way I can install vdev and only vdev from > > experimental? How? ..my way was add the experimental lines to /etc/apt/sources.list, then fire up aptitude, hit "u", and then pick vdev and whichever dependencies it needs. > > 2: Is there a way I can later go back to udev? How? ..dunno, I ain't going back to systemd-udev. ;o) > There have been detailed discussions on #devuan. This search will > take you to the times they were happening. Click on the specific time > to get to the full exchanges: > > https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/search/?q=vdev > > > > > Thanks, > > > > SteveT -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 04:10:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > 1: Is there a way I can install vdev and only vdev from experimental? >How? Nothing ever gets installed from experimental unless you explicitly say so. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ A dumb species has no way to open a tuna can. ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ A smart species invents a can opener. ⠈⠳⣄ A master species delegates. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:08:02 -0400, Ismael wrote in message : > - Original Message - > From: "Arnt Karlsen" > To: "Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:37 AM > Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:46:26 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message > > : > > > >> On 17 July 2017 at 17:44, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >> > >> > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:23:14 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message > >> > : > >> > > >> > > Hello everyone, > >> > > > >> > > I have just subscribed recently. > >> > > Could someone please enlighten me on the current udev > >> > > replacement status? I found there was vdev project but it > >> > > looks abandoned (?) Is there any other? > >> > > > >> > > >> > ..I'm on experimental vdev-0.1.2, upgraded from jessie > >> > vdev-0.1.1. We also have eudev. > >> > > >> > ..my understanding is much of the systemd-udev development is > >> > "just" obfuscation, to cover up systemd's true purpose and > >> > capabilities. My understanding comes from my experience with > >> > "banana republic" and Cold War politics. > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> thanks for response. > >> Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not > >> finding both in any of devuan repos. > > > > ..add these "experimental" lines, and re-try 'apt-get update': > > root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > > ... > > > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list > > # > > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > > # contrib > > # non-free > > # > > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > > # contrib > > # non-free > > > > ..once you have vdev installed and working, you may consider > > commenting my "experimental" lines out. > > I haven't tried eudev on a fresh install, only on a messy and > > failed recovery attempt on an 8 yr old Debian install. > > > > ..my messy /etc/apt/sources.list: > > root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > > # Devuan repositories > > # > > deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free > > > > # > > deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib > > non-free > > > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-security.list > > # > > deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main > > contrib non-free > > > > # > > deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main > > contrib non-free > > > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-updates.list > > # > > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main > > contrib non-free > > > > # > > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main > > contrib non-free > > > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-proposed-updates.list > > # > > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates > > main contrib non-free > > > > # > > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates > > main contrib non-free > > > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-backports.list > > # > > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main > > contrib non-free > > # > > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main > > contrib non-free > > > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list > > # > > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > > contrib non-free > > # > > deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > > contrib non-free > > > > # https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DevuanInstall > > # > > deb > > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian > > jessie main > > > > # > > deb-src > > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian > > jessie main > > > > # > > deb > > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian > > jessie main > > > > # > > deb-src > > http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian > > jessie main > >
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On 2017-07-17 15:10, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:19:18 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 06:02:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) > Ok, be careful though, since stuff in experimental can be broken and break other things, so you are warned :) 1: Is there a way I can install vdev and only vdev from experimental? How? 2: Is there a way I can later go back to udev? How? There have been detailed discussions on #devuan. This search will take you to the times they were happening. Click on the specific time to get to the full exchanges: https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/search/?q=vdev Thanks, SteveT ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:19:18 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 06:02:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > > Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) > > > > Ok, be careful though, since stuff in experimental can be broken and > break other things, so you are warned :) 1: Is there a way I can install vdev and only vdev from experimental? How? 2: Is there a way I can later go back to udev? How? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt July 2017 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
- Original Message - From: "Arnt Karlsen" To: "Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] udev replacement On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:46:26 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message : On 17 July 2017 at 17:44, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:23:14 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message > : > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I have just subscribed recently. > > Could someone please enlighten me on the current udev replacement > > status? I found there was vdev project but it looks abandoned (?) > > Is there any other? > > > > ..I'm on experimental vdev-0.1.2, upgraded from jessie vdev-0.1.1. > We also have eudev. > > ..my understanding is much of the systemd-udev development is "just" > obfuscation, to cover up systemd's true purpose and capabilities. > My understanding comes from my experience with "banana republic" > and Cold War politics. Hi, thanks for response. Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not finding both in any of devuan repos. ..add these "experimental" lines, and re-try 'apt-get update': root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list ... # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list # deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main # contrib # non-free # deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main # contrib # non-free ..once you have vdev installed and working, you may consider commenting my "experimental" lines out. I haven't tried eudev on a fresh install, only on a messy and failed recovery attempt on an 8 yr old Debian install. ..my messy /etc/apt/sources.list: root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list # Devuan repositories # deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free # deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-security.list # deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main contrib non-free # deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main contrib non-free # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-updates.list # deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main contrib non-free # deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main contrib non-free # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-proposed-updates.list # deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates main contrib non-free # deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates main contrib non-free # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-backports.list # deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main contrib non-free # deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main contrib non-free # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list # deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main contrib non-free # deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main contrib non-free # https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DevuanInstall # deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main # deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main # deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main # deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. I get the repository error when trying to download it. How can I solve this problem? root@(none):/mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan# sh rdexperimental.sh = Actualizando los repositorios DEVUAN 'experimental'; main = Mirroring to /mnt/datos/sistemas/linux/devuan/experimental from http://packages.devuan.org/devuan// Arches: i386,amd64 Dists: experimental Sections: main Pdiff mode: none Will clean up after mirroring. Attempting to get lock ... Not able to use rsync to update remote trace files ... Getting meta files ... [ 0%] Getting: dists/experimental/Release... #** GET http://packages.devuan.org/devuan//dists/experimental/Release ==> 200 OK (3s) ok [ 0%] Getting: dists/experimental/Release.gpg... #** GET http://packages.devuan.org/devuan//dists/experimental/Release.gpg ==> 200 OK (1s) ok [GNUPG:] ERRSIG 94532124541922FB 1 8 00 1500285740 9 [GNUPG:] NO_PUBKEY 94532124541922FB gpgv: recurso de bloque de clave `/root/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': error al abrir fichero gpgv: Firmado el lun 17 jul 2017 06:02:20 CDT usando clave RSA ID 541922FB gpgv: Imposible comprobar la firma: c
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 12:37:00PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..add these "experimental" lines, and re-try 'apt-get update': > root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list > ... > > # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list > # > deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main > > ..once you have vdev installed and working, you may consider > commenting my "experimental" lines out. No need, packages don't get installed from experimental except for: * your explicit request * chosen package not existing in higher-priority sources * upgrades for packages from experimental The last one is important: when there's a new version, you want it updated, especially for work in progress like vdev or eudev. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ A dumb species has no way to open a tuna can. ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ A smart species invents a can opener. ⠈⠳⣄ A master species delegates. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:46:26 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message : > On 17 July 2017 at 17:44, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:23:14 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message > > : > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > I have just subscribed recently. > > > Could someone please enlighten me on the current udev replacement > > > status? I found there was vdev project but it looks abandoned (?) > > > Is there any other? > > > > > > > ..I'm on experimental vdev-0.1.2, upgraded from jessie vdev-0.1.1. > > We also have eudev. > > > > ..my understanding is much of the systemd-udev development is "just" > > obfuscation, to cover up systemd's true purpose and capabilities. > > My understanding comes from my experience with "banana republic" > > and Cold War politics. > > Hi, > > thanks for response. > Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not > finding both in any of devuan repos. ..add these "experimental" lines, and re-try 'apt-get update': root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list ... # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list # deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main # contrib # non-free # deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main # contrib # non-free ..once you have vdev installed and working, you may consider commenting my "experimental" lines out. I haven't tried eudev on a fresh install, only on a messy and failed recovery attempt on an 8 yr old Debian install. ..my messy /etc/apt/sources.list: root@box:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/apt/sources.list # Devuan repositories # deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free # deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main contrib non-free # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-security.list # deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main contrib non-free # deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main contrib non-free # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-updates.list # deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main contrib non-free # deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main contrib non-free # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-proposed-updates.list # deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates main contrib non-free # deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-proposed-updates main contrib non-free # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-backports.list # deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main contrib non-free # deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main contrib non-free # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-experimental.list # deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main contrib non-free # deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan experimental main contrib non-free # https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DevuanInstall # deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main # deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian jessie main # deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main # deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debian jessie main -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 06:02:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) > Ok, be careful though, since stuff in experimental can be broken and break other things, so you are warned :) HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
Thanks! Looks like I've missed this repo :) On 17 July 2017 at 17:53, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 05:46:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > > Hi, > > > > thanks for response. > > Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not finding > > both in any of devuan repos. > > > > Hi, > > both vdev abd eudev are in experimental: > > deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main > > HTH > > KatolaZ > > -- > [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] > [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] > [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] > [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] > [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 05:46:26PM +0800, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for response. > Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not finding > both in any of devuan repos. > Hi, both vdev abd eudev are in experimental: deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main HTH KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
Hi, thanks for response. Do you know repositories where to get them (vdev/eudev)? I am not finding both in any of devuan repos. On 17 July 2017 at 17:44, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:23:14 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message > : > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I have just subscribed recently. > > Could someone please enlighten me on the current udev replacement > > status? I found there was vdev project but it looks abandoned (?) > > Is there any other? > > > > ..I'm on experimental vdev-0.1.2, upgraded from jessie vdev-0.1.1. > We also have eudev. > > ..my understanding is much of the systemd-udev development is "just" > obfuscation, to cover up systemd's true purpose and capabilities. > My understanding comes from my experience with "banana republic" > and Cold War politics. > > -- > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... > Scenarios always come in sets of three: > best case, worst case, and just in case. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] udev replacement
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:23:14 +0800, Yevgeny wrote in message : > Hello everyone, > > I have just subscribed recently. > Could someone please enlighten me on the current udev replacement > status? I found there was vdev project but it looks abandoned (?) > Is there any other? > ..I'm on experimental vdev-0.1.2, upgraded from jessie vdev-0.1.1. We also have eudev. ..my understanding is much of the systemd-udev development is "just" obfuscation, to cover up systemd's true purpose and capabilities. My understanding comes from my experience with "banana republic" and Cold War politics. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] udev replacement
Hello everyone, I have just subscribed recently. Could someone please enlighten me on the current udev replacement status? I found there was vdev project but it looks abandoned (?) Is there any other? -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng