Re: [DNG] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Way forward

2019-04-14 Thread aitor_czr

On 14/4/19 11:46, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
I did support Devuan with mirror.smallinnovations.nl and 
devuan.smallinnovations.nl (and do until 30 april). 


I can read :)

So what exactly is your point except that you apparently like to bully 
people?


Bully people? Who is bulling people? Take your own way, but take it in 
silence.


And I repeat: I wishyou all the best luck in the world, you really need 
it :)


https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=systemd

Cheers,

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Way forward

2019-04-14 Thread chillfan--- via Dng
In beowulf at least you can use libelogind0 in place of libsystemd0 but 
packages still require something that provides it.

libelogind0 shares some code with libsystemd0 and of course we only need it to 
provide some desktops, so there are things left where we don't need it.

In beowulf at least you can use libelogind0 which is a slight relief :)

Cheers,

chillfan

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:59 AM, aitor_czr  wrote:

> On 14/4/19 9:55, aitor_czr wrote:
> 

> > On 13/4/19 16:34, mett wrote:
> > 

> > > While everybody is obviously free to leave if he realizes he does not
> > > share the same goal as the rest of the project, we are still facing a
> > > crisis. I thus believe that we should win over people who supported 
> > > devuan in the
> > > past, not fight with them.
> > 

> > Of course, i agree. And they are free to decide. But my words have not been 
> > aimed against
> > any people who supported devuan in the past, neither against Centurion Dan 
> > nor against KatolaZ.
> > I was referring to such person who decided to end his membership of the 
> > list *making noice*.
> > Please, if someone else takes the same way in the future, do it as a 
> > gentleman. Imho, it's the time to
> > end this thread.
> > Cheers,
> > Aitor.
> 

> *noise*

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Re: [DNG] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Way forward

2019-04-14 Thread aitor_czr

Hi fsmithred,

On 14/4/19 11:22, fsmithred via Dng wrote:

On 04/14/2019 04:40 AM, Antony Stone wrote:

On Sunday 14 April 2019 at 10:39:34, aitor_czr wrote:


On 14/4/19 10:30, chillfan--- via Dng wrote:

About corporations:

If they are that interested in Devuan (and yes I'm repeating myself) they
should put some dedicated maintainers our way so we can remove all of
libsystemd0.

It's possible to remove entirely libsystemd0.

How difficult is "possible"?

Antony.


In beowulf:
   apt-get install libelogind0
   apt-get remove libsystemd0

That's all.

fsmithred
I'm on ascii and libelogind0 doesn't provide libsystemd0. I built an 
image of gnuinos jessie without libsystemd0, but also without any 
desktop environment.
Runnig apt-cache rdepends libsystemd0 i see a lot of reverse 
dependencies, so it may not be so simple.


Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Way forward

2019-04-14 Thread aitor_czr

On 14/4/19 10:40, Antony Stone wrote:

How difficult is "possible"?

Antony.


Not so difficult. I'll work on that.

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Way forward

2019-04-14 Thread aitor_czr


On 14/4/19 9:55, aitor_czr wrote:

On 13/4/19 16:34, mett wrote:

While everybody is obviously free to leave if he realizes he does not
share the same goal as the rest of the project, we are still facing a
crisis. I thus believe that we should win over people who supported devuan in 
the
past, not fight with them.
Of course, i agree. And they are free to decide. But my words have not 
been aimed against
any people who supported devuan in the past, neither against Centurion 
Dan nor against KatolaZ.
I was referring to such person who decided to end his membership of 
the list *making noice*.
Please, if someone else takes the same way in the future, do it as a 
gentleman. Imho, it's the time to

end this thread.

Cheers,

Aitor.


*noise*


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