On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 06:26:31PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Simon Walter writes:
>
> > Anyway, I tend to be sympathetic to people like Olaf "A (remote)
> > command-line suits just fine." It's when you need to delegate
> > administration of users and permissions to
Simon Walter writes:
> On 6/21/21 6:26 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>> Using adduser/deluser and addgroup/delgroup isn't exactly rocket science
>> :-P
>>
>> If they don't get that, then they probably shouldn't be adminning users
>> and permissions to begin with ...
>
> There are managers who have
On 6/21/21 6:26 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
Using adduser/deluser and addgroup/delgroup isn't exactly rocket science
:-P
If they don't get that, then they probably shouldn't be adminning users
and permissions to begin with ...
There are managers who have tasted
Hi Simon,
Simon Walter writes:
> Anyway, I tend to be sympathetic to people like Olaf "A (remote)
> command-line suits just fine." It's when you need to delegate
> administration of users and permissions to someone who does not know the
> CLI. Then you wish for a decent GUI.
I'd cluebat those
On 6/13/21 7:11 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
On 08-06-2021 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics.
So in summary, there is no way of running cockpit in a
non-systemd/Linux environment
On 15/06/2021 10:42, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
>
> If projects decide to throw in their lot with systemd
> (as in not accepting patches to cater to non-systemd setups), I think
> they deserve to be plonked by distributions that don't support systemd.
As a matter of interest, can anyone say
tito via Dng writes:
> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:41:28 +0900
> Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
>
>> d...@d404.nl writes:
>>
>> > Not hindered by any knowledge about system programming I am
>> > wondering how much work it would be to implement a socket
>> > activation interface without systemd.
Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:41:28 +0900
>Hi,
>
>d...@d404.nl writes:
>
>> Not hindered by any knowledge about system programming I am wondering
>> how much work it would be to implement a socket activation interface
>> without systemd. Although what I read about its
On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:41:28 +0900
Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> d...@d404.nl writes:
>
> > On 08-06-2021 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> >>> ..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics.
> >>>
> So
Hi,
d...@d404.nl writes:
> On 08-06-2021 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>>> ..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics.
>>>
So in summary, there is no way of running cockpit in a
non-systemd/Linux environment
On 08-06-2021 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics.
So in summary, there is no way of running cockpit in a
non-systemd/Linux environment that I'd be willing to support.
Most of the
On 2021-06-10 18:47, Rowland penny via Dng wrote:
> On 10/06/2021 10:36, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote:
>> If you’re looking at something like zentyal, you could look at HPE’s
>> clearos as well. there is a free version. It does all the things
>> that zentyal does. it’s only drawback is that
On 10/06/2021 10:36, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote:
If you’re looking at something like zentyal, you could look at HPE’s clearos
as well. there is a free version. It does all the things that zentyal does.
it’s only drawback is that it’s based on centos and it’s laced with systemd.
One
If you’re looking at something like zentyal, you could look at HPE’s clearos
as well. there is a free version. It does all the things that zentyal does.
it’s only drawback is that it’s based on centos and it’s laced with systemd.
—Curtis
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 10, 2021, at 3:31
On 6/8/21 7:05 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..turns out ebox changed its name, and, it does not support Procmail:
https://zentyal.com/features/
It seemed to be going in a good direction, but maybe they didn't have
enough funding. The last version I used was 5. After that, there was no
benefit, as
I’ve been running ispconfig on my beowulf servers for quite some time, now.
security model is more like plesk. nobody should be running cpanel. cpanel is
dangerous. I had several websites hacked. the attack vector was cpanel. all
websites rin under the coanel user. it doesn’t work that
On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> ..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics.
>
> > So in summary, there is no way of running cockpit in a
> > non-systemd/Linux environment that I'd be willing to support.
Most of the worries mentioed here seem a
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