Hi Karl,
On 5/13/22 03:22, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
On 5/12/22 15:23, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
On May 12, 2022 9:44:39 PM GMT+02:00, Fred wrote:
I don't use a DE, just openbox and xterm. The regular scroll wheel
mouse works correctly in both xev and the application. Button 2 is
Fred:
> On 5/12/22 15:23, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
> > On May 12, 2022 9:44:39 PM GMT+02:00, Fred wrote:
> >> I don't use a DE, just openbox and xterm. The regular scroll wheel
> >> mouse works correctly in both xev and the application. Button 2 is
> >> identified as 2 so I contend it has
On 5/12/22 15:23, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
On May 12, 2022 9:44:39 PM GMT+02:00, Fred wrote:
Hi Karl,
I don't use a DE, just openbox and xterm. The regular scroll wheel mouse works
correctly in both xev and the application. Button 2 is identified as 2 so I
contend it has to have
On May 12, 2022 9:44:39 PM GMT+02:00, Fred wrote:
> Hi Karl,
> I don't use a DE, just openbox and xterm. The regular scroll wheel mouse
> works correctly in both xev and the application. Button 2 is identified as 2
> so I contend it has to have something to do with program(s) run to use
On 5/12/22 03:15, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
...
With xev, buttons 1 and 3 are correctly identified but the middle button
is randomly assigned 4,5,6 or 7. Possibly this is the problem as I know
the application is expecting button 2.
Maybe it is the desktop environment or the window
Fred:
...
> With xev, buttons 1 and 3 are correctly identified but the middle button
> is randomly assigned 4,5,6 or 7. Possibly this is the problem as I know
> the application is expecting button 2.
Maybe it is the desktop environment or the window manager that messes
this up.
Try installing
To find out what's behind which /dev/input/event* device, and generally
what's going on with the input stuff on the kernel side, I usually
check: "cat /proc/bus/input/devices"
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Hi Karl,
On 5/11/22 08:23, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
On 5/11/22 05:02, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
You should be able to do lsinput from input-utils package to see which
/dev/input/inputX file your mouse's byte stream transformed as events
would appear. And then run input-events X to see
Fred:
> On 5/11/22 05:02, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> > You should be able to do lsinput from input-utils package to see which
> > /dev/input/inputX file your mouse's byte stream transformed as events
> > would appear. And then run input-events X to see the events. E.g.:
> >
> > # lsinput | tail
>
Hi Karl,
On 5/11/22 05:02, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
...
The Sun Compact 1 three button mouse is 1200 baud, 8 data bits, no
parity and sends 5 bytes in Mouse Systems protocol. Byte 0 is button
info. exactly the same as msc. Byte 1 is 8 bit signed X movement. Byte
2 is 8 bit signed Y
Fred:
...
> The Sun Compact 1 three button mouse is 1200 baud, 8 data bits, no
> parity and sends 5 bytes in Mouse Systems protocol. Byte 0 is button
> info. exactly the same as msc. Byte 1 is 8 bit signed X movement. Byte
> 2 is 8 bit signed Y movement. Bytes 3, 4 are zero.
That fits the
On 4/27/22 15:40, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
...
In spare time I am building a board to convert mouse output to RS232. I
did research on this in 2011. I found a program I wrote (for embedded
controller) to watch serial port and show mouse bytes on lcd. I don't
know yet if it was finished
Fred:
...
> In spare time I am building a board to convert mouse output to RS232. I
> did research on this in 2011. I found a program I wrote (for embedded
> controller) to watch serial port and show mouse bytes on lcd. I don't
> know yet if it was finished or works. Viewing the mouse
Hi Karl,
On 4/25/22 15:09, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
On 4/25/22 10:17, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
I am using the DLP-TXRX-G usb/serial adapter with a transistor to invert
the mouse output. The mouse has an active high output and the dlp rx
input is active low.
This one:
Fred:
> On 4/25/22 10:17, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
> I am using the DLP-TXRX-G usb/serial adapter with a transistor to invert
> the mouse output. The mouse has an active high output and the dlp rx
> input is active low.
This one:
http://www.dlpdesign.com/usb/txrx.php
seems to be ttl, not
On 4/25/22 10:17, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
...
I ran gpm-mouse-test again. That program seems to have major
problems. It can't even detect the baud rate which I know to be 1200.
...
I tested it here and it succesfully detected my MouseMan at 1200baud.
It can be that your serial to
On 4/25/22 10:17, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Nick:
On 25-04-2022 16:20, Fred wrote:
...
The compile went ok. I used command line:
inputattach --daemon --baud 1200 -msc /dev/ttyUSB0
It accepted the baud rate option this time however the middle button
still does not work. The pointer freezes
Fred:
...
> I ran gpm-mouse-test again. That program seems to have major
> problems. It can't even detect the baud rate which I know to be 1200.
...
I tested it here and it succesfully detected my MouseMan at 1200baud.
It can be that your serial to usb converter confuses the program because
Nick:
> On 25-04-2022 16:20, Fred wrote:
...
> > The compile went ok. I used command line:
> > inputattach --daemon --baud 1200 -msc /dev/ttyUSB0
> > It accepted the baud rate option this time however the middle button
> > still does not work. The pointer freezes when the middle button is
>
On 25-04-2022 16:20, Fred wrote:
On 4/25/22 02:39, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
...
The compile fails because SDL.h can't be found.
Package sd12 was not found in the pkg-config search path. It also
mentions adding directory containing sd12.pc to the PKG-CONFIG_PATH
environment variable.
To
On 4/25/22 02:39, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
...
The compile fails because SDL.h can't be found.
Package sd12 was not found in the pkg-config search path. It also
mentions adding directory containing sd12.pc to the PKG-CONFIG_PATH
environment variable.
To find which package a missing file
Fred:
...
> The compile fails because SDL.h can't be found.
> Package sd12 was not found in the pkg-config search path. It also
> mentions adding directory containing sd12.pc to the PKG-CONFIG_PATH
> environment variable.
To find which package a missing file belongs to, do:
# apt-get install
On 4/24/22 13:56, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
On 4/23/22 12:53, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
If so, press Ctl-Alt-F2 buttons simultaineusly to get to a console.
There log in as root
and then try one of
gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyUSB0 -t msc
gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyUSB0 -t sun
gpm -b
Fred:
...
> The middle button is being seen as the pointer won't move when it is
> held down. It would appear the application is being told something
> different than when the standard pc mouse is used.
It is probably because you were forced to set the wron baudrate.
Regards,
/Karl Hammar
Fred:
> On 4/23/22 12:53, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
> > If so, press Ctl-Alt-F2 buttons simultaineusly to get to a console.
> > There log in as root
> > and then try one of
> >gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyUSB0 -t msc
> >gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyUSB0 -t sun
> >gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyUSB0 -t
On 4/24/22 10:49, Fred wrote:
Hi,
On 4/23/22 12:53, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
On 4/23/22 02:34, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
So, make sure you are running in a virtual console and logged in as
root, then run the gpm -b etc. thing and move the mouse around.
To make the mouse to work in
Hi,
On 4/23/22 12:53, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
On 4/23/22 02:34, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
So, make sure you are running in a virtual console and logged in as
root, then run the gpm -b etc. thing and move the mouse around.
To make the mouse to work in X11, please test the mouse with
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:11:18 +0200, Florian wrote in message
<2022042328.14e36a59.f.zieb...@web.de>:
> Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with
>
> $ find / | grep xorg.conf
>
> Also worth a try:
>
> $ man 5 xorg.conf
..also worth trying:~$ man -k xorg.conf
On 24/4/22 13:52, aitor wrote:
but enable it when using vdev.
*disable*
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Hi Ralph,
On 23/4/22 23:32, Ralph Ronnquist wrote:
Then, I think the X11 system relies on udev for setting up its inputs
and load the appropriate modules. You may take over that and do things
"by hand" by a) making the following file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/a.conf
Section "ServerFlags"
Fred:
...
> I also don't like the beetle wings for buttons one and three because
> I am often accidentally clicking button three.
...
Yes, it is wery annoying when you accidentally press button three.
Regards,
/Karl Hammar
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Ralph Ronnquist:
...
> I think all mice are supposed to be handled by the kernel and will
> then get presented at /dev/input/mice
...
At some level every hardware is handled by the kernel. What you are
talking about is the input subsystem. To make a serial mouse work
or use the input subsystem
Fred:
...
> If gpm only works in a virtual terminal why do I need to continue
> working with it? I don't use a virtual terminal.
...
Since it is such a simple test to do, e.g. you don't have to restart
the X server to try another protocol.
Regards,
/Karl Hammar
> On 24 Apr 2022, at 12:23, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Antony Stone writes:
>
>>> On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 22:57:12, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200 Antony Stone wrote:
On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian
Hi,
Antony Stone writes:
> On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 22:57:12, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200 Antony Stone wrote:
>> > On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
>> >
>> > > Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been
On 4/23/22 12:53, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
On 4/23/22 02:34, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
So, make sure you are running in a virtual console and logged in as
root, then run the gpm -b etc. thing and move the mouse around.
To make the mouse to work in X11, please test the mouse with gpm
On 4/23/22 15:26, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:19:45PM -0700, Fred wrote:
The mouse is a Sun three button mouse without the scroll wheel. I
frequently use a program that makes extensive use of the middle button and
the pc mouse scroll wheel is hateful.
I would like a mouse
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 18:26:59 -0400
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I would like a mouse with a middle button *and* a scroll wheel.
> So there's no ambiguity as to which I am using.
> I've never seen one.
Out of curiosity, I just did a quick websearch for four+button+mouse -
there are dozens of options
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:19:45PM -0700, Fred wrote:
> The mouse is a Sun three button mouse without the scroll wheel. I
> frequently use a program that makes extensive use of the middle button and
> the pc mouse scroll wheel is hateful.
I would like a mouse with a middle button *and* a scroll
On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 22:57:12, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200 Antony Stone wrote:
> > On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
> >
> > > Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with
> > >
> > > $
On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 09:07:57AM -0700, Fred wrote:
> On 4/23/22 02:34, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> > Fred:
> > > On 4/22/22 15:31, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> > ...
> > > >gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyS1 -t msc
> > ...
> > > It shows up at /dev/ttyUSB0. I have tried that command line several
> > >
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 21:15:34 +0200
Antony Stone wrote:
> On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700 Fred wrote:
> [...]
> >
> > Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with
> >
> > $ find / | grep
Fred:
> On 4/23/22 02:34, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
> > So, make sure you are running in a virtual console and logged in as
> > root, then run the gpm -b etc. thing and move the mouse around.
> >
> > To make the mouse to work in X11, please test the mouse with gpm in
> > a console first to
On Saturday 23 April 2022 at 21:11:18, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700 Fred wrote:
> > A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in
> > Devuan Beowulf (AMD64).
> >
> > So, where do I go from here?
>
> Some time ago, in a similar
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 09:07:57 -0700
Fred wrote:
> A previous post mentioned xorg.conf which doesn't appear to exist in
> Devuan Beowulf (AMD64).
>
> So, where do I go from here?
Some time ago, in a similar situation, I had been successful with
$ find / | grep xorg.conf
Also worth a try:
$
On 4/23/22 02:34, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
On 4/22/22 15:31, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyS1 -t msc
...
It shows up at /dev/ttyUSB0. I have tried that command line several
times. Nothing happens. ps -e shows gpm is running. The pointer will
not move and the
Fred:
> On 4/22/22 15:31, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
> > gpm -b 1200 -m /dev/ttyS1 -t msc
...
> It shows up at /dev/ttyUSB0. I have tried that command line several
> times. Nothing happens. ps -e shows gpm is running. The pointer will
> not move and the mouse buttons have no effect.
...
On 4/22/22 15:31, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
On 4/22/22 14:21, Fred wrote:
On 4/22/22 13:46, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
...
As I said in an earlier post there is an article on using a (different)
Sun mouse on Linux. The protocol used was msc. From looking at the
output with an
Fred:
> On 4/22/22 14:21, Fred wrote:
> > On 4/22/22 13:46, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> >> Fred:
> >> ...
> >>> As I said in an earlier post there is an article on using a (different)
> >>> Sun mouse on Linux. The protocol used was msc. From looking at the
> >>> output with an oscilloscope that
On 4/22/22 14:21, Fred wrote:
On 4/22/22 13:46, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
...
As I said in an earlier post there is an article on using a (different)
Sun mouse on Linux. The protocol used was msc. From looking at the
output with an oscilloscope that protocol does appear close if not
On 4/22/22 13:46, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
...
As I said in an earlier post there is an article on using a (different)
Sun mouse on Linux. The protocol used was msc. From looking at the
output with an oscilloscope that protocol does appear close if not correct.
Type-4 and -5 mice
Fred:
...
> As I said in an earlier post there is an article on using a (different)
> Sun mouse on Linux. The protocol used was msc. From looking at the
> output with an oscilloscope that protocol does appear close if not correct.
Type-4 and -5 mice seems to been made by mouse systems:
On 4/22/22 09:32, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
Fred:
...
I need to work with a nonstandard serial three button mouse without
scroll wheel. It needs a baud rate specification and gpm has an
option for this.
...
I know that gpm works with this mouse.
Since gpm works with the mouse I wouldn't say
On April 22, 2022 12:21:02 AM GMT+02:00, aitor wrote:
> Hi Fred,
>
> On 21/4/22 23:39, Fred wrote:
>
> > I don't understand what you mean by virtual terminal.
>
> For sure the login prompts of tty2, tty3... brung up by holding down the
> Ctrl+Alt keys, and pressing one of the function keys
Fred:
...
> I don't understand what you mean by virtual terminal.
There are not many "true" terminals left:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_terminal
so basically all terminals today are virtual, in the sense that
they behave as if they were an actual terminal, but they are not.
There
Fred:
...
> I need to work with a nonstandard serial three button mouse without
> scroll wheel. It needs a baud rate specification and gpm has an
> option for this.
...
> I know that gpm works with this mouse.
Since gpm works with the mouse I wouldn't say it is a "non-standard"
one. What mouse
On 4/21/22 23:00, marc wrote:
Hello
gpm (and I suppose also consolation) is active only on the console, not in
virtual terminals - so there's no conflict.
Libre Gre,
Florian
I don't understand what you mean by virtual terminal. I don't use a DE,
just openbox. I may have two xterms
Hello
> >gpm (and I suppose also consolation) is active only on the console, not in
> >virtual terminals - so there's no conflict.
> >
> >Libre Gre,
> >Florian
> >
>
> I don't understand what you mean by virtual terminal. I don't use a DE,
> just openbox. I may have two xterms open,
Hi again,
On 22/4/22 0:21, aitor wrote:
For sure the login prompts of tty2, tty3... brung up by holding down the
Ctrl+Alt keys, and pressing one of the function keys F2, F3...
In debian the first six virtual TTYs (tty1, tty2,... tty6) are non-graphical,
according to the configuration in
Hi Fred,
On 21/4/22 23:39, Fred wrote:
I don't understand what you mean by virtual terminal.
For sure the login prompts of tty2, tty3... brung up by holding down the
Ctrl+Alt keys, and pressing one of the function keys F2, F3...
Cheers,
Aitor.
On 4/21/22 13:09, Florian Zieboll wrote:
On April 21, 2022 9:28:16 PM GMT+02:00, wrote:
Hi,
If I install gpm or consolation won't that conflict with whatever driver
is already installed?
gpm (and I suppose also consolation) is active only on the console, not in
virtual terminals - so
On April 21, 2022 9:28:16 PM GMT+02:00, wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I install gpm or consolation won't that conflict with whatever driver
> is already installed?
gpm (and I suppose also consolation) is active only on the console, not in
virtual terminals - so there's no conflict.
Libre Grüße,
Hi,
If I install gpm or consolation won't that conflict with whatever driver
is already installed? The gpm man page says it is not allowed to have
two instances of gpm running at the same time and there is an option to
kill the previous instance.
Best regards,
Fred
On 4/21/22 11:50,
An alternative to "gpm" would be "consolation". It's based on
"libinput". I've never tried serial mice, but you can probably install &
start "inputattach", and then "consolation" should probably pick it up
if it's installed. inputattach should also work with other things such
as X11 and
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 09:07:20AM -0700, Fred wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What program is used as mouse driver on Beowulf and Chimaera? Gpm was
> previously used but it is not installed now. I need to work with a
> nonstandard serial three button mouse without scroll wheel. It needs a baud
> rate
On April 21, 2022 6:07:20 PM GMT+02:00, Fred wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What program is used as mouse driver on Beowulf and Chimaera? Gpm was
> previously used but it is not installed now. I need to work with a
> nonstandard serial three button mouse without scroll wheel. It needs a
> baud rate
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