Re: [dns-operations] CloudFlare policy on ANY records changing

2015-03-10 Thread Yunhong Gu
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message cagmqtqjrpx_xg_ojtshsw5yqaefkzwdma16xw7iry9pr0_f...@mail.gmail.com , Yunhong Gu writes: Returning NOTIMP may confuse resolvers as it is not clear what is not implemented. Which is why you only change one

[dns-operations] Fwd: [nznog] DNSSEC validation at Spark NZ

2015-03-10 Thread Sadiq Saif
Forwarded Message Subject: [nznog] DNSSEC validation at Spark NZ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 11:45:27 +1300 From: Sebastian Castro sebast...@nzrs.net.nz Organization: .nz Registry Services To: nz...@list.waikato.ac.nz nz...@list.waikato.ac.nz Hi: We'd like to share a short technical

Re: [dns-operations] [DNSOP] dnsop-any-notimp violates the DNS standards

2015-03-10 Thread Darcy Kevin (FCA)
Regarding the statement query type ANY 'matches all RR types CURRENTLY IN THE CACHE'. Actually, there's nothing in RFC 1034 that clearly *mandates* this behavior -- Section 3.7.1 says only that a QTYPE of * matches all RR types, whereas Section 5.3.3 (Algorithm) says to return the answer or

Re: [dns-operations] What would it take...

2015-03-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message d1250a19.9a81%edward.le...@icann.org, Edward Lewis writes: Why don't we just implement TSIG signed updates... In the sense of baby steps first - what I'm driving towards error detection, ensuring that the zone-to-be is in line with it's environment. Getting to error correction

Re: [dns-operations] Saga of HBONow DNSSEC Failure

2015-03-10 Thread Eli Heady
On Mar 10, 2015 12:16 PM, Edward Lewis edward.le...@icann.org wrote: ... Perhaps Comcast could install little squirrel feeders in the neighborhood. That they don't, and have let this problem go unabated for years, illustrates their bias. #nutneutrality Apologies, Eli

Re: [dns-operations] CloudFlare policy on ANY records changing

2015-03-10 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:46 AM, David C Lawrence t...@akamai.com wrote: Paul Hoffman writes: On Mar 10, 2015, at 6:25 AM, Yunhong Gu g...@google.com wrote: So the problem is, why NOTIMP? REFUSED sounds like a better choice. +1. REFUSED exactly describes what is going on. One down side

Re: [dns-operations] CloudFlare policy on ANY records changing

2015-03-10 Thread Fred Morris
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015, Chris Adams wrote: A problem with ever using ANY to get more information from a cache is the client's/applications's assumption that all requests will go to the same server. Even if a client sends requests to the same IP, anycast can mean they go to a different server.

Re: [dns-operations] What would it take...

2015-03-10 Thread Edward Lewis
On 3/10/15, 16:45, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: Why don't we just implement TSIG signed updates... In the sense of baby steps first - what I'm driving towards error detection, ensuring that the zone-to-be is in line with it's environment. Getting to error correction is the next level, but

Re: [dns-operations] What would it take...

2015-03-10 Thread P Vixie
Tsig won't scale for something like this. Please consider sig0. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ dns-operations mailing list dns-operations@lists.dns-oarc.net

Re: [dns-operations] Saga of HBONow DNSSEC Failure

2015-03-10 Thread Richard Lamb
Jason- Thank you for sharing the details. Another excellent real world example. Too bad it caused you consternation. -Rick From: dns-operations [mailto:dns-operations-boun...@dns-oarc.net] On Behalf Of Livingood, Jason Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 8:50 PM To: dns-operations Subject:

Re: [dns-operations] Saga of HBONow DNSSEC Failure

2015-03-10 Thread Warren Kumari
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Matthew Pounsett m...@conundrum.com wrote: On Mar 9, 2015, at 23:50 , Livingood, Jason jason_living...@cable.comcast.com wrote: So earlier today HBO announced a new HBONow streaming service (at an Apple event). The FQDN to order, which should have been

Re: [dns-operations] CloudFlare policy on ANY records changing

2015-03-10 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Mar 10, 2015, at 6:25 AM, Yunhong Gu g...@google.com wrote: So the problem is, why NOTIMP? REFUSED sounds like a better choice. +1. REFUSED exactly describes what is going on. --Paul Hoffman ___ dns-operations mailing list

Re: [dns-operations] Saga of HBONow DNSSEC Failure

2015-03-10 Thread Edward Lewis
On 3/9/15, 23:50, Livingood, Jason jason_living...@cable.comcast.com wrote: So earlier today HBO announced a new HBONow streaming service (at an Apple event). The FQDN to order, which should have been DNSSEC-enabled, was order.hbonow.com. This unfortunately suffered from a rather inconveniently

Re: [dns-operations] Saga of HBONow DNSSEC Failure

2015-03-10 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Mar 9, 2015, at 23:50 , Livingood, Jason jason_living...@cable.comcast.com wrote: So earlier today HBO announced a new HBONow streaming service (at an Apple event). The FQDN to order, which should have been DNSSEC-enabled, was order.hbonow.com. This unfortunately suffered from a rather

Re: [dns-operations] What would it take...

2015-03-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message d124b0ce.9a2e%edward.le...@icann.org, Edward Lewis writes: Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit ...to prevent another DS--DNSKEY mishap from happening again? I'm presenting the message to the DNS Operations list of DNS-OARC. (Being subscribed to so many DNS lists I keep forgetting

Re: [dns-operations] CloudFlare policy on ANY records changing

2015-03-10 Thread David C Lawrence
Paul Hoffman writes: On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:46 AM, David C Lawrence t...@akamai.com wrote: One down side there, however, is that REFUSED as understood by resolvers commonly has the semantic currently that the name is not hosted by the server at all. If a resolver is sending an ANY before

Re: [dns-operations] Saga of HBONow DNSSEC Failure

2015-03-10 Thread Livingood, Jason
On 3/10/15, 12:55 PM, Eli Heady eli.he...@gmail.commailto:eli.he...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 10, 2015 12:16 PM, Edward Lewis edward.le...@icann.orgmailto:edward.le...@icann.org wrote: ... Perhaps Comcast could install little squirrel feeders in the neighborhood. That they don't, and have

[dns-operations] What would it take...

2015-03-10 Thread Edward Lewis
...to prevent another DS--DNSKEY mishap from happening again? I'm presenting the message to the DNS Operations list of DNS-OARC. (Being subscribed to so many DNS lists I keep forgetting if I'm acting as an IETF participant or talking as a past operator of DNS or as ) In short, think about

Re: [dns-operations] Saga of HBONow DNSSEC Failure

2015-03-10 Thread Livingood, Jason
On 3/10/15, 12:11 PM, Edward Lewis edward.le...@icann.org wrote: I (as well as others) knew this day would come - when an ISP would get the brunt of someone's DNSSEC misfire. (Others include many who worked on the original design and deployment workshops.) It won¹t be the last time! ;-) The

[dns-operations] [Zonemaster] DNS zone/service checking tool features survey

2015-03-10 Thread Sandoche Balakrichenan
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