[dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Edward Lewis
One of the things I have some issues with is the introduction of a new TLD, especially one that is a so-called IDN name. The delegation appears in the root and then later information appears in the IANA WhoIs. In this case, there is something in the WhoIs, but nothing much useful. In the

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread WBrown
Edward Lewis wrote on 03/20/2013 09:07:22 AM: PS - And, I would like to know who that string belongs to. https://www.google.com/search?q=XN--J1AMH leads to http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/xn--j1amh.html Confidentiality Notice: This electronic message and any attachments may

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
Hi Ed, $ whois -h whois.iana.org XN--J1AMH. % IANA WHOIS server % for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org % This query returned 1 object domain: =D1=83=D0=BA=D1=80 domain-ace: XN--J1AMH status: ACTIVE created:

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Rick Wesson
Ukrainian Network Information Centrer http://uanic.net/icann-zakrepila-za-ukrainoj-ukr-v-kachestve-kirillicheskogo-domena dig XN--J1AMH. ; DiG 9.7.6-P1 XN--J1AMH. ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 60517 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER:

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Ray Bellis
On 20 Mar 2013, at 13:35, Jaap Akkerhuis j...@nlnetlabs.nl wrote: Whatalways cracks me up on this page is that all IDNs are sorted under the X (because of XNN- I assume). Does a sensible sorting order for characters from different character sets even exist? The only one I can think of is by

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-03-20, at 09:07, Edward Lewis ed.le...@neustar.biz wrote: $ whois -h whois.iana.org XN--J1AMH. % IANA WHOIS server % for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org % This query returned 1 object domain: укр domain-ace: XN--J1AMH status: ACTIVE

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Rick Wesson
Does the IANA have an announce list for new additions to the root, if not, maybe the community would benifit by IANA starting one. -rick On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: On 2013-03-20, at 09:07, Edward Lewis ed.le...@neustar.biz wrote: $ whois -h

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:48 AM, Rick Wesson r...@support-intelligence.com wrote: Does the IANA have an announce list for new additions to the root, if not, maybe the community would benifit by IANA starting one. s/new additions/all changes/ I mirror the root zone every night and do diffs, and

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Rick Wesson
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: It's not very reliable (the client I'm using seems to stall quite frequently, and I don't tend to notice promptly) but there's this: https://twitter.com/RootChanges Not an IANA service, obviously, just a poorly-written

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-03-20, at 11:18, Rick Wesson r...@support-intelligence.com wrote: clearly if twitter is the best option for the community to be notified about upcoming changes to the root, we have identified something that should be fixed. :-) I was briefly enthusiastic about twitter, which is when

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
On 20 Mar 2013, at 13:35, Jaap Akkerhuis j...@nlnetlabs.nl wrote: Whatalways cracks me up on this page is that all IDNs are sorted under the X (because of XNN- I assume). Does a sensible sorting order for characters from different character sets even exist? I

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-03-20, at 09:07, Edward Lewis ed.le...@neustar.biz wrote: PPS - Here's my whois lookup at 9am (-0500) today. (-0400, presumably) $ whois -h whois.iana.org XN--J1AMH. % IANA WHOIS server % for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org % This query returned 1 object

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem... {Sender Address Possibly Forged}

2013-03-20 Thread Ray Bellis
On 20 Mar 2013, at 14:19, Ray Bellis ray.bel...@nominet.org.uk wrote: Does a sensible sorting order for characters from different character sets even exist? The only one I can think of is by strict code point value, but then that would produce incorrect results for those languages whose

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
Joe, To close the loop on this: Thanks for this info, jaap ___ dns-operations mailing list dns-operations@lists.dns-oarc.net https://lists.dns-oarc.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-operations dns-jobs mailing list

Re: [dns-operations] Who is xn--j1amh.? Well, the general problem...

2013-03-20 Thread Nishal Goburdhan
On 20 Mar 2013, at 5:01 PM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: On 2013-03-20, at 10:56, Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org wrote: On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:48 AM, Rick Wesson r...@support-intelligence.com wrote: Does the IANA have an announce list for new additions to the root, if not, maybe