Re: [dns-operations] DNSViz Service Restoration

2020-03-11 Thread Casey Deccio 


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:44 PM Matthew Pounsett  wrote:
>> A few weeks ago we made the decision to temporarily put aside the attempt to 
>> completely restore the old historical data and instead stand up a new, empty 
>> database so that we could get the full featureset online.  So, for now there 
>> is no access to old tests run prior to the service’s move to OARC, however 
>> new tests will be available for review.
>> 
>> We’re continuing to work to restore the full historical database; we hope 
>> that with the pressure off, and the temptation to cut corners in order to 
>> speed up the process removed, we can restart the import from scratch with a 
>> slower—but more reliable—approach to recovering those data.
> 
> 
> Excuse my not remembering, but have y'all confirmed that this is
> really worth the faff? What *I* care about is being able to use the
> service *from now on*- going back and seeing the breakage of
> foo.example.net in 2018 is only mildly interesting, but certainly not
> (to me!) worth your time and effort...

Thanks for the perspective.  I believe there is value in being able to answer 
the question: "what did foo.example.net look like at time X?", though it is 
arguably less important to most users, and the value diminishes over time.  
Much more important, in my opinion, is understanding trends over time.  For 
example, can we understand what the current pitfalls are and how to improve 
them, so we can get off NTAs and be more strict in DNSSEC validation adherence? 
 In other words, looking at the aggregate offered by the historical data is 
much more valuable than looking at individual setups.  An understanding of 
DNS(SEC) deployment behavior can be used to improve tools, processes, and 
standards.

Casey
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Re: [dns-operations] DNSViz Service Restoration

2020-03-11 Thread Georg Kahest 
Great news!

Thank you for your effort.

On 11.03.20 21:31, Matthew Pounsett wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> OARC is happy… no, ecstatic… to announce that the DNSViz historical functions 
> have been restored!  Users will now be seeing full functionality from the 
> site at .
>
> A few weeks ago we made the decision to temporarily put aside the attempt to 
> completely restore the old historical data and instead stand up a new, empty 
> database so that we could get the full featureset online.  So, for now there 
> is no access to old tests run prior to the service’s move to OARC, however 
> new tests will be available for review.
>
> We’re continuing to work to restore the full historical database; we hope 
> that with the pressure off, and the temptation to cut corners in order to 
> speed up the process removed, we can restart the import from scratch with a 
> slower—but more reliable—approach to recovering those data.
>
> I’d like to thank everyone again for your patience with this whole saga.
>
> Matt Pounsett
> DNS-OARC Systems Engineering
>
>
>
>
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Re: [dns-operations] DNSViz Service Restoration

2020-03-11 Thread Marco Davids (SIDN) via dns-operations 
--- Begin Message ---
Awesome!

Thanks.

--
Marco

Op 11-03-20 om 20:31 schreef Matthew Pounsett:

> OARC is happy… no, ecstatic… to announce that the DNSViz historical functions 
> have been restored!
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Re: [dns-operations] DNSViz Service Restoration

2020-03-11 Thread Warren Kumari 
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:44 PM Matthew Pounsett  wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> OARC is happy… no, ecstatic… to announce that the DNSViz historical functions 
> have been restored!  Users will now be seeing full functionality from the 
> site at .
>

Awesome, thank you all.

> A few weeks ago we made the decision to temporarily put aside the attempt to 
> completely restore the old historical data and instead stand up a new, empty 
> database so that we could get the full featureset online.  So, for now there 
> is no access to old tests run prior to the service’s move to OARC, however 
> new tests will be available for review.
>
> We’re continuing to work to restore the full historical database; we hope 
> that with the pressure off, and the temptation to cut corners in order to 
> speed up the process removed, we can restart the import from scratch with a 
> slower—but more reliable—approach to recovering those data.


Excuse my not remembering, but have y'all confirmed that this is
really worth the faff? What *I* care about is being able to use the
service *from now on*- going back and seeing the breakage of
foo.example.net in 2018 is only mildly interesting, but certainly not
(to me!) worth your time and effort...

W

>
> I’d like to thank everyone again for your patience with this whole saga.
>
> Matt Pounsett
> DNS-OARC Systems Engineering
>
>
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-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.
   ---maf

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Re: [dns-operations] DNSViz Service Restoration

2020-03-11 Thread negativeindex 
That is excellent news indeed!  Thank you for all your hard work on this.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:40 PM Matthew Pounsett  wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> OARC is happy… no, ecstatic… to announce that the DNSViz historical
> functions have been restored!  Users will now be seeing full functionality
> from the site at .
>
> A few weeks ago we made the decision to temporarily put aside the attempt
> to completely restore the old historical data and instead stand up a new,
> empty database so that we could get the full featureset online.  So, for
> now there is no access to old tests run prior to the service’s move to
> OARC, however new tests will be available for review.
>
> We’re continuing to work to restore the full historical database; we hope
> that with the pressure off, and the temptation to cut corners in order to
> speed up the process removed, we can restart the import from scratch with a
> slower—but more reliable—approach to recovering those data.
>
> I’d like to thank everyone again for your patience with this whole saga.
>
> Matt Pounsett
> DNS-OARC Systems Engineering
>
>
>
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Re: [dns-operations] DNSViz Service Restoration

2020-03-11 Thread Scott Morizot 
Fantastic news! Thanks. Already checked and confirmed. Access to the
responses is especially appreciated.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:40 PM Matthew Pounsett  wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> OARC is happy… no, ecstatic… to announce that the DNSViz historical
> functions have been restored!  Users will now be seeing full functionality
> from the site at .
>
> A few weeks ago we made the decision to temporarily put aside the attempt
> to completely restore the old historical data and instead stand up a new,
> empty database so that we could get the full featureset online.  So, for
> now there is no access to old tests run prior to the service’s move to
> OARC, however new tests will be available for review.
>
> We’re continuing to work to restore the full historical database; we hope
> that with the pressure off, and the temptation to cut corners in order to
> speed up the process removed, we can restart the import from scratch with a
> slower—but more reliable—approach to recovering those data.
>
> I’d like to thank everyone again for your patience with this whole saga.
>
> Matt Pounsett
> DNS-OARC Systems Engineering
>
>
>
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[dns-operations] DNSViz Service Restoration

2020-03-11 Thread Matthew Pounsett 
Hi all!

OARC is happy… no, ecstatic… to announce that the DNSViz historical functions 
have been restored!  Users will now be seeing full functionality from the site 
at .

A few weeks ago we made the decision to temporarily put aside the attempt to 
completely restore the old historical data and instead stand up a new, empty 
database so that we could get the full featureset online.  So, for now there is 
no access to old tests run prior to the service’s move to OARC, however new 
tests will be available for review.

We’re continuing to work to restore the full historical database; we hope that 
with the pressure off, and the temptation to cut corners in order to speed up 
the process removed, we can restart the import from scratch with a slower—but 
more reliable—approach to recovering those data.

I’d like to thank everyone again for your patience with this whole saga.

Matt Pounsett
DNS-OARC Systems Engineering





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