Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:03 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > > > On 7 Jan 2020, at 22:51, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:38 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > >> >> >> On 31 Dec 2019, at 14:45, Eric Rescorla wrote: >> >> >> > > > >> >>> Also on linkability and identification: >>>

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

> On 7 Jan 2020, at 22:51, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:38 AM Sara Dickinson > wrote: > > >> On 31 Dec 2019, at 14:45, Eric Rescorla > > wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> Also on linkability and identification: >>>

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03 - Section 3.5.1.1 Comments

> On 9 Jan 2020, at 15:30, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 02:47:02PM -0800, > Eric Rescorla wrote > a message of 310 lines which said: > >> Yeah, my point is that I don't agree with this. Right now there is a >> lot of ISP centralization and the move of some of that

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03 - Section 3.5.1.1 Comments

On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 02:47:02PM -0800, Eric Rescorla wrote a message of 310 lines which said: > Yeah, my point is that I don't agree with this. Right now there is a > lot of ISP centralization and the move of some of that traffic to > public resolvers potentially decreases centralization

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03 - Section 3.5.1.1 Comments

: dns-privacy [mailto:dns-privacy-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Christian Huitema Envoyé : jeudi 9 janvier 2020 09:28 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN; Vittorio Bertola; Sara Dickinson Cc : last-c...@ietf.org; DNS Privacy Working Group Objet : Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03 - Section 3.5.1.1 Comments

On 1/8/2020 6:09 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: > FWIW, slide 6 of > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-maprg-dns-observatory-monitoring-global-dns-for-performance-and-security-pawel-foremski-and-oliver-gasser-01 > shows that very few DNS providers are handling

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03 - Section 3.5.1.1 Comments

; Sara Dickinson Cc : last-c...@ietf.org; DNS Privacy Working Group Objet : Re: [Last-Call] [dns-privacy] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03 - Section 3.5.1.1 Comments Il 08/01/2020 09:10 Christian Huitema ha scritto: Centralization manifests itself in many ways. EKR is correct that big

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:38 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > > > On 31 Dec 2019, at 14:45, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > >> >> >> On 2 Dec 2019, at 00:00, Martin Thomson wrote: >> >> Prompted by my surprise at seeing Brian Trammell's mention of

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

> On 31 Dec 2019, at 22:35, Rob Sayre wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Sara Dickinson > wrote: > > Suggest the following text with the goal of getting consensus that the > opinion exists and is held by many network operators, not that the opinion > itself

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

> On 31 Dec 2019, at 14:45, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Sara Dickinson > wrote: > > >> On 2 Dec 2019, at 00:00, Martin Thomson > > wrote: >> >> Prompted by my surprise at seeing Brian Trammell's mention

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > > Suggest the following text with the goal of getting consensus that the > opinion exists and is held by many network operators, not that the opinion > itself has consensus: > > OLD: > “ In some cases, networks might block access to remote

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:33 AM Vittorio Bertola < vittorio.bert...@open-xchange.com> wrote: > > Il 31/12/2019 15:45 Eric Rescorla ha scritto: > > > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Sara Dickinson < s...@sinodun.com> wrote: > > > Suggest: > > OLD: > “Users of encrypted transports are also

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

Il 31/12/2019 15:45 Eric Rescorla ha scritto: On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Sara Dickinson < s...@sinodun.com> wrote:

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Sara Dickinson wrote: > > > On 2 Dec 2019, at 00:00, Martin Thomson wrote: > > Prompted by my surprise at seeing Brian Trammell's mention of a > '[firefox]' reference in this document, I reviewed the contents of this > draft more closely. > > Summary > > I found

Re: [dns-privacy] [Last-Call] Review of draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-03

Unsurprisingly, I agree with MT here. There is a pile of material here which is precisely the set of topics failing to achieve consensus in ADD, so it can hardly be published as having IETF consensus through dprive. By example, let's focus on the following two paragraphs in S 3.5.1.1. If