Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-06 Thread Rob Sayre
On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 11:23 AM Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > Measurement of CPU and memory use between Do53 and DoT or DoQ. > Measurement of query response rates between Do53 and DoT or DoQ. > Measurement of server authentication successes and failures. > Measurement and descriptions of observed

[dns-privacy] Fwd: NomCom 2023 Call for Volunteers

2023-06-06 Thread Tim Wicinski
DNSOP/DPRIVE Martin Thompson is chairing this year's version of the IETF Nominating Committee. It's a good thing to volunteer, and I can speak strongly on the fact that 10+ years of volunteering, and I have not been selected(*). tim (8) Now that I've said that -- Forwarded message

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-06 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Hoffman > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:05 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : > draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral- > probing > > Caution: This email originated from outside the

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-06 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jun 6, 2023, at 7:49 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > [SAH] The criteria to conduct the experiment and measure the outcome could be > documented in the current draft. Please propose such criteria. I ask because I feel that the likely criteria (at least one resolver implementation, one server

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-06 Thread Philip Homburg
> One large problem with publishing a protocol as "experimental" is > there is not objective way to exit that status. There are no criteria > that say "this experiment succeeded" or "this experiment failed". > > It will take much less IETF effort to fix the charter now than it > will to move the

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-06 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jun 6, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Philip Homburg wrote: > >> One large problem with publishing a protocol as "experimental" is >> there is not objective way to exit that status. There are no criteria >> that say "this experiment succeeded" or "this experiment failed". >> >> It will take much less

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-06 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jun 5, 2023, at 8:12 PM, Brian Haberman wrote: > > Tim & I checked in with our AD on this. Given that the charter text calls out > Experimental, that is a binding agreement with the IESG. > > Our choices are simple: > > 1) publish as Experimental > 2) re-charter > > If the intended

Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

2023-06-06 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: dns-privacy On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 9:44 AM > To: dns-privacy@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : > draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral- > probing > > Caution: This email originated from outside the