Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [Ext] DNS over HTTP/3?

2018-11-26 Thread Ray Bellis
On 26/11/2018 15:37, Paul Hoffman wrote: Ah! That is interesting to hear. Any links that you have to that would be greatly appreciated. (I meant UKNOF, not UKNOT) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tMGD6J04Jk Sara took a *lot* of off-mic discussion after that session, too. You may feel

Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [Ext] DNS over HTTP/3?

2018-11-26 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Nov 26, 2018, at 6:31 AM, Ray Bellis wrote: > > On 23/11/2018 16:45, Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> The current round of pushback, all of which appeared after the standard was >> finished, seems to mostly be coming from DNS vendors, not ISPs or DNS >> operators. > > There was _plenty_ of

Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [Ext] DNS over HTTP/3?

2018-11-26 Thread Ray Bellis
On 23/11/2018 16:45, Paul Hoffman wrote: The current round of pushback, all of which appeared after the standard was finished, seems to mostly be coming from DNS vendors, not ISPs or DNS operators. There was _plenty_ of pushback when this got presented at UKNOT, especially among those ISPs

Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [Ext] DNS over HTTP/3?

2018-11-26 Thread John Levine
In article <57202511-6de3-4bea-b65e-afbcaff40...@bellis.me.uk> you write: >(I meant UKNOF, not UKNOT) > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tMGD6J04Jk > >Sara took a *lot* of off-mic discussion after that session, too. I gather mandatory DNS blocks like this are common throughout Europe, with

Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [Ext] DNS over HTTP/3?

2018-11-26 Thread Wes Hardaker
Paul Hoffman writes: > >> During the development of the DoH standard, people from many DNS > >> vendors (including the one you work for) contributed to the spec > >> without objection in the WG. [snip other comments] One issue with the IETF specifications is that we allow for, and should allow