Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil-06.txt

2008-09-09 Thread Dean Anderson
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Ron Bonica wrote: Do you deny that the vulnerabilities described in this document *could* be exploited? If this is your claim, and you can substantiate it, the WG will entertain your objection. I'm asserting that whatever vulnerabilities that do exist can be mitigated in

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil-06.txt

2008-09-09 Thread Ron Bonica
Folks, Someone on DNSOPS points out that I am calendar challenged. September 5 has already past. I meant to say Friday, September 12. Ron Ron Bonica wrote: Dean, On the surface, I deem your objection to be without merit. Unless you can convince me

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil-06.txt

2008-09-09 Thread Ron Bonica
Dean Anderson wrote: On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Ron Bonica wrote: Do you deny that the vulnerabilities described in this document *could* be exploited? If this is your claim, and you can substantiate it, the WG will entertain your objection. I'm asserting that whatever vulnerabilities that do

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil-06.txt

2008-09-09 Thread Ron Bonica
Bill, That why in the next paragraph I said: If you think that you have an alternative plan for mitigating this attack, you might be able to resurrect open resolvers with a new draft that describes this mitigation. Also, if Dean feels that the alternative mitigation is so compelling that he

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil-06.txt

2008-09-09 Thread Dean Anderson
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Ron Bonica wrote: Your assertion that false statements, contrived attacks, discredited sources, and lack of evidence of harm, are somehow not legitimate reasons to dispute a document is also without basis, and indeed is refuted by IESG actions in TLS-AUTHZ. I stand

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil-06.txt

2008-09-09 Thread David Conrad
[cc's cleaned up] Hi, At his point, I will sit quietly for a while and let the WG comment on whether they think that your proposed alternative mitigation is adequate. On Friday, the WG chairs will gauge consensus and I will take appropriate action. Given the stunningly successful

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil-06.txt

2008-09-09 Thread Mark Andrews
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Conrad writes: [cc's cleaned up] Hi, At his point, I will sit quietly for a while and let the WG comment on whether they think that your proposed alternative mitigation is adequate. On Friday, the WG chairs will gauge consensus and I will

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil-06.txt

2008-09-09 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Mark Andrews wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Conrad writes: At his point, I will sit quietly for a while and let the WG comment on whether they think that your proposed alternative mitigation is adequate. On Friday, the WG chairs will gauge consensus and I

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil-06.txt

2008-09-09 Thread Kevin Darcy
William F. Maton Sotomayor wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Mark Andrews wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Conrad writes: At his point, I will sit quietly for a while and let the WG comment on whether they think that your proposed alternative mitigation is adequate. On Friday,