Re: [DNSOP] A new review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc4641bis-10 -- part (B)

2012-04-11 Thread Matthijs Mekking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/2012 12:48 AM, Alfred � wrote: Here we go with part (B); if deemed necessary, please consider to provide feedback for the items below on the list. Again, all items that are adopted without feedback necessary have been omitted from this

Re: [DNSOP] Maximum negative trust anchor duration, was New I-D on Negative Trust Anchors

2012-04-11 Thread Tony Finch
Shane Kerr sh...@isc.org wrote: For example, I know someone who regularly forgets to re-sign his zones. That's just stupid. There are a lot of sensible words in Jason's draft to say that negative trust anchors should not be used as a long-term workaround for some third party's persistent

Re: [DNSOP] New I-D on Negative Trust Anchors

2012-04-11 Thread Shane Kerr
Nicholas, On Wednesday, 2012-04-11 06:28:49 -0700, Nicholas Weaver nwea...@icsi.berkeley.edu wrote: b) Actually, I think it should also be auto removed once the condition is fixed: Continue to attempt to validate the zone in question. When the zone validates again, the default behavior

Re: [DNSOP] Maximum negative trust anchor duration, was New I-D on Negative Trust Anchors

2012-04-11 Thread Shane Kerr
Tony, On Wednesday, 2012-04-11 15:20:50 +0100, Tony Finch d...@dotat.at wrote: Shane Kerr sh...@isc.org wrote: For example, I know someone who regularly forgets to re-sign his zones. That's just stupid. There are a lot of sensible words in Jason's draft to say that negative trust

[DNSOP] when dnssec validation fails

2012-04-11 Thread Jim Reid
On 11 Apr 2012, at 15:48, Shane Kerr wrote: Disabling DNSSEC validation for broken domains seems completely rational, at least for some types of brokenness. +1 The problem here is this becomes a local policy/configuration matter and the experience you outlined still occurs Shane. Sometimes

Re: [DNSOP] Request to adopt draft-sotomayor-as112-ipv4-cull as WG item

2012-04-11 Thread Warren Kumari
On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Joe Abley wrote: On 2012-04-04, at 08:20, William F. Maton Sotomayor wrote: It seems that after delivering my presentation on subsequent AS112 delegations in Quebec City, I hadn't recalled what the group thought about adopting this work as a dnsop item.

Re: [DNSOP] New I-D on Negative Trust Anchors

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Abley
On 2012-04-11, at 12:09, Wes Hardaker wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:28:49 -0700, Nicholas Weaver nwea...@icsi.berkeley.edu said: NW a) If end-time is specified as a date, not an interval, you can set NW the date to be 'end of epoch', so you can basically have it 'stay NW forever', even

Re: [DNSOP] New I-D on Negative Trust Anchors

2012-04-11 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Joe on 2012-04-11 17:56 Joe Abley said the following: [...] ; example.com's DNSSEC is broken, let's not use it for a day example.com NTA 20120412162716 20120411162716 ticket [HOPCOUNT-12345] jab...@hopcount.ca example.com RRSIG ... [...] just a tiny nit to pick, would not the '@' in

Re: [DNSOP] Maximum negative trust anchor duration, was New I-D on Negative Trust Anchors

2012-04-11 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012, Shane Kerr wrote: Disabling DNSSEC validation for broken domains seems completely rational, at least for some types of brokenness. So someone will make a browser plugin to enable this. Let them. Paul ___ DNSOP mailing list

Re: [DNSOP] A new review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc4641bis-10 -- part (A)

2012-04-11 Thread Alfred Hönes
Matthijs, thanks for dealing with my comments so expeditiously. (This extends to the other review comments as well.) Please see a few follow-up remarks inline below. On 11 Apr 2012 15:47:33 +0200, Matthijs Mekking wrote: Hi, On 04/05/2012 12:41 AM, Alfred Hönes wrote: After a long delay, I

Re: [DNSOP] A new review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc4641bis-10 -- part (B)

2012-04-11 Thread Alfred Hönes
Matthijs, again thanks for your quick and detailed response and action. A few selected follow-up remark can be found inline below. On 11 Apr 2012 15:48:26 +0200, Matthijs Mekking wrote: On 04/05/2012 12:48 AM, Alfred Hönes wrote: Here we go with part (B); if deemed necessary, please consider

Re: [DNSOP] A new review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc4641bis-10 -- part (B)

2012-04-11 Thread Dick Franks
On 11 April 2012 14:48, Matthijs Mekking matth...@nlnetlabs.nl wrote: On 04/05/2012 12:48 AM, Alfred � wrote: | o Signature validity period The time interval during which a | signature is valid. It starts at the (absolute) time specified in | the signature inception field of