Re: [DNSOP] Multi-QTYPES (was: unsolicited HTTPSSVC responses)

2020-05-28 Thread Petr Špaček
On 28. 05. 20 19:47, Joe Abley wrote: > On 28 May 2020, at 12:22, Vladimír Čunát wrote: > >> I'm not sure if it would be a net benefit if we consider the added >> complexity (like the few unpleasant corner cases), the need to implement >> on both sides, and other ways that are available. Is sa

Re: [DNSOP] Multi-QTYPES (was: unsolicited HTTPSSVC responses)

2020-05-28 Thread Eric Orth
I lead engineering for the stub resolver built into Chrome browser, so while not an OS-level stub, maybe still prominent enough to count for the "any communication" requested above. My biggest concern with an approach like this is ossification from middleboxes (especially some old home routers) th

Re: [DNSOP] Multi-QTYPES (was: unsolicited HTTPSSVC responses)

2020-05-28 Thread Joe Abley
On 28 May 2020, at 12:22, Vladimír Čunát wrote: > I'm not sure if it would be a net benefit if we consider the added > complexity (like the few unpleasant corner cases), the need to implement > on both sides, and other ways that are available. Is saving the number > of IP-layer packets the only

Re: [DNSOP] Multi-QTYPES (was: unsolicited HTTPSSVC responses)

2020-05-28 Thread Vladimír Čunát
Hello. On 5/28/20 10:00 AM, Shane Kerr wrote: > As I have mentioned several times on microphone, I think this draft > has huge potential, potentially cutting the number of queries handled > by recursive resolvers almost in half - since they could ask for A and > records in a single query. I

Re: [DNSOP] New draft on delegation revalidation

2020-05-28 Thread Paul Vixie
On Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:38:11 UTC Petr Špaček wrote: > On 25. 05. 20 5:23, Shumon Huque wrote: > > ... > > Most importantly: > > - Does the NS affect maximum TTL of _other_ data in the zone? > > > > I think there are probably different views on what should happen here. > > Folks who wa

Re: [DNSOP] New draft on delegation revalidation

2020-05-28 Thread Petr Špaček
On 25. 05. 20 5:23, Shumon Huque wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 8:24 AM Petr Špaček > wrote: > > > > >    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-huque-dnsop-ns-revalidation-01 > > I would appreciate a practical example of changes envisioned in the > followi

Re: [DNSOP] Multi-QTYPES (was: unsolicited HTTPSSVC responses)

2020-05-28 Thread Petr Špaček
On 28. 05. 20 10:00, Shane Kerr wrote: > Ray and other DNS operations folks, > > On 27/05/2020 10.30, Ray Bellis wrote: >> >> >> On 27/05/2020 07:33, Petr Špaček wrote: >> >>> I would much rather spent time on >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes-03 >>> >>> That would b

[DNSOP] Multi-QTYPES (was: unsolicited HTTPSSVC responses)

2020-05-28 Thread Shane Kerr
Ray and other DNS operations folks, On 27/05/2020 10.30, Ray Bellis wrote: On 27/05/2020 07:33, Petr Špaček wrote: I would much rather spent time on https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes-03 That would bring benefit to broader set of clients and has advantage that serv