Re: [DNSOP] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-12: (with COMMENT)

2020-10-09 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
Hi Rob, One can do a bit of semi-generic analysis here to help motivate 12 bytes as being a tolerable choice (one could make some argument for 32 being the right length to actually use, but the protocol-mandated floor does not necessarilly need to be the "full protection" value as there can be

Re: [DNSOP] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-12: (with COMMENT)

2020-10-09 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi Rob, I'm not aware of any precise analysis supporting the 12 byte minimum size but I believe it is reasonable and in line with the lower end of the range of hash sizes typically standardized by the IETF these days. Thanks, Donald === Donald E. Eastlake 3rd

Re: [DNSOP] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-12: (with COMMENT)

2020-10-09 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Oct 7, 2020, at 11:55 PM, Murray Kucherawy via Datatracker > wrote: > > Murray Kucherawy has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-12: No Objection Hi Murray, thanks for the comments. > >

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-13.txt

2020-10-09 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : Message Digest for DNS Zones Authors : Duane Wessels Piet Barber

Re: [DNSOP] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-12: (with COMMENT)

2020-10-09 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Oct 9, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Ben Schwartz wrote: > > > 6.2. Use of Multiple ZONEMD Hash Algorithms > >When a zone publishes multiple ZONEMD RRs, the overall security is >only as good as the weakest hash algorithm in use. > > Why not require recipients to verify all digests with

Re: [DNSOP] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-12: (with COMMENT)

2020-10-09 Thread Ben Schwartz
On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 2:36 PM Wessels, Duane wrote: > > > > On Oct 8, 2020, at 4:18 AM, Robert Wilton via Datatracker < > nore...@ietf.org> wrote: > > > > Robert Wilton has entered the following ballot position for > > draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-12: No Objection > > > > > >

Re: [DNSOP] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2020-10-09 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Oct 7, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Roman Danyliw wrote: > > > In that case (where no assumptions are made about the transport), it seems > that only these scenarios from the list above apply: > > With an on-path attacker (and trusted server hosting the zone file) > > ** No DNSSEC = integrity:

Re: [DNSOP] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-12: (with COMMENT)

2020-10-09 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Oct 8, 2020, at 4:18 AM, Robert Wilton via Datatracker > wrote: > > Robert Wilton has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-12: No Objection > > > -- > COMMENT: >

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies

2020-10-09 Thread Benno Overeinder
This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies. Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies/ The Current Intended Status of this document is: Standards Track FYI, I will not shepherd this document,

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-private-use-tld-00.txt

2020-10-09 Thread Roy Arends
> On 9 Oct 2020, at 10:38, Andrew McConachie wrote: > Hi Roy and Joe, > > It’s not clear to me whether the document is advising to only use this > facility when a sub-domain of a public domain name is unavailable, or to > optionally use this facility based on the user’s preference. What I

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-private-use-tld-00.txt

2020-10-09 Thread Andrew McConachie
On 8 Oct 2020, at 11:54, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : Top-level Domains for Private Internets

Re: [DNSOP] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-12: (with COMMENT)

2020-10-09 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
Hi Donald, > -Original Message- > From: Donald Eastlake > Sent: 09 October 2020 00:47 > To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) > Cc: The IESG ; draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-dig...@ietf.org; > Tim Wicinski ; ; > dnsop-cha...@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Robert Wilton's No Objection on

Re: [DNSOP] What is the purpose of NSEC3 "closest encloser" proofs?

2020-10-09 Thread Matthijs Mekking
Hello Nick, The closest encloser proof is explained in RFC 7129, Section 5.5. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7129#section-5.5 Best regards, Matthijs On 10/9/20 1:46 AM, Nick Johnson wrote: > I'm reading RFC 5155, and I'm a bit puzzled by the requirement for > "closest encloser" proofs to