Re: [DNSOP] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-03 Thread Brian Dickson
Top-reply (not apologizing for doing so, either): If I read the actual draft correctly, it is _not_ intended to be a DNS drop-in replacement. Instead, it is meant to be an _alternative_ to DNS. So, why even use DNS-compatible label strings? That is an obviously conflict-causing choice, which is

Re: [DNSOP] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8552 (7064)

2022-08-03 Thread John R. Levine
On Wed, 3 Aug 2022, Dave Crocker wrote: Original Text - | URI| _acct | [RFC6118] | Corrected Text -- | URI| _acct | [RFC7566] | In Spring, 2018 and again in Fall, 2018, there was some focused discussion (see: 

Re: [DNSOP] URI RR labels derived from Enumservices (was: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8552 (7064))

2022-08-03 Thread John Levine
It appears that said: >Shouldn't the labels for Subtypes also go to this (initial) URI Registry? Nope. The intent of this registry is to list all of the _tags that one might run into when setting up a new thing, so you don't collide with tags that other things already use. The subtype tags only

Re: [DNSOP] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8552 (7064)

2022-08-03 Thread Dave Crocker
On 8/3/2022 9:48 AM, Tim Wicinski wrote: This seems to be the mail thread which discusses 7566/6118 : https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/d5KQEP1Ud1TxQpanNMY2_b0CpL8/ that's the second and more substantial thread. The first brief one began with:

Re: [DNSOP] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8552 (7064)

2022-08-03 Thread Tim Wicinski
This seems to be the mail thread which discusses 7566/6118 : https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/d5KQEP1Ud1TxQpanNMY2_b0CpL8/ On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 12:13 PM Dave Crocker wrote: > On 8/2/2022 8:04 AM, RFC Errata System wrote: > > Type: Editorial > Reported by: Bernie Hoeneisen > > >

[DNSOP] URI RR labels derived from Enumservices (was: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8552 (7064))

2022-08-03 Thread bernie
Hi Dave Not sure there is yet another issue around the Enumservices derived URI label registrations. As I understand this document (RFC 8552) is based on RFC 7553 regarding Enumservices, which states: The Enumservice Registration [RFC6117] parameters are reversed (i.e., subtype(s)

Re: [DNSOP] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8552 (7064)

2022-08-03 Thread Dave Crocker
On 8/2/2022 8:04 AM, RFC Errata System wrote: Type: Editorial Reported by: Bernie Hoeneisen Section: 4.1.2. Original Text - | URI| _acct | [RFC6118] | Corrected Text -- | URI| _acct | [RFC7566] | Notes -

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-03 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 3, 2022, at 8:09 AM, Schanzenbach, Martin wrote: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wkumari-dnsop-internal-00 > does not seem to be a predecessor of > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld/ You are correct; this was my mistake. draft-wkumari-dnsop-internal

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-03 Thread Schanzenbach, Martin
> On 3. Aug 2022, at 16:46, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > On Aug 3, 2022, at 12:36 AM, Schanzenbach, Martin > wrote: >> >> Having now read further I am pretty convinced that the advisory is not >> useful in the context of this thread discussion. >> Ist sais at the end that [1] was the "impetus"

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Working Group Last Call for aft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp

2022-08-03 Thread Gavin McCullagh
Perfect, thanks Paul. On Wed, Aug 3, 2022, 07:50 Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Aug 3, 2022, at 6:48 AM, Gavin McCullagh wrote: > > > > > > > Nonetheless, the significant deployment of > > > DNSSEC within some top-level domains (TLDs), and the near-universal > > > deployment of DNSSEC in the TLDs,

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Working Group Last Call for aft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp

2022-08-03 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 3, 2022, at 6:48 AM, Gavin McCullagh wrote: > > > > Nonetheless, the significant deployment of > > DNSSEC within some top-level domains (TLDs), and the near-universal > > deployment of DNSSEC in the TLDs, demonstrate that DNSSEC is suitable > > for implementation by both ordinary and

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-03 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 3, 2022, at 12:36 AM, Schanzenbach, Martin wrote: > > Having now read further I am pretty convinced that the advisory is not useful > in the context of this thread discussion. > Ist sais at the end that [1] was the "impetus" for the advisory. Reading a five-year old version of a draft

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for aft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp

2022-08-03 Thread Gavin McCullagh
> Nonetheless, the significant deployment of > DNSSEC within some top-level domains (TLDs), and the near-universal > deployment of DNSSEC in the TLDs, demonstrate that DNSSEC is suitable > for implementation by both ordinary and highly sophisticated domain > owners. Maybe it's my lack of dns

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-schanzen-gns and draft-ietf-dns-alt-tld

2022-08-03 Thread Schanzenbach, Martin
Having now read further I am pretty convinced that the advisory is not useful in the context of this thread discussion. Ist sais at the end that [1] was the "impetus" for the advisory. However, [1] states that "Why not use .alt? The proposed .alt presudo-TLD is specifically only for use as a